advfox 698 Posted February 7, 2013 Did any of you notice that if you were to make an attempt at LV1 in KH 1.5, you would lose access to about 90% of the abilities obtained through leveling, including some of the most important ones like Second Chance? Enemies and bosses alike would be able to put an end to you in one hit later in the game. Without Power/Magic/Defense boosts, the game will be impossible. Now I think that Square will change around some of the abilities as done in KH2FM. What do you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weiss 8,279 Posted February 7, 2013 I think they'll do similar to what they did in kh2fm and put a few abilities after boss battles. It would be a nice way to do it plus they've done it before. 2 Robbie the Wise and kingdomlanelover reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indecypher 495 Posted February 7, 2013 Yeah, maybe the matches in Olympus Coliseum will drop power/defense boosts like the data fights in Kh2FM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hei 3,233 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) But what if you are just a skilled master at dodging and being able to get 1 hit in every 10 minutes? and yeah, I bet they will make some changes to that. Edited February 7, 2013 by Hei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajexmi 446 Posted February 7, 2013 On 2/7/2013 at 1:19 PM, Keysofblades said: I think they'll do similar to what they did in kh2fm and put a few abilities after boss battles. It would be a nice way to do it plus they've done it before. ^ This. I find it surprising that Square really would accommodate this in their remaster as it's a suicide mission and a huge amount of time and effort to make the game as difficult as possible and avoiding mastering the cool abilities you come by later on, but if they are to, I would agree with Keys on this. That, or they should have an option after proud/critical mode for a 'LV1 Lock' which prevents you levelling up regardless of EXP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ptolema 404 Posted February 7, 2013 I think there should be new abilities after beating the game, as a reward for, well, beating it. Then you can take on the bosses with a bonus that can make the fights cooler. 1 Indecypher reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) Well they said the battle system will be changed to be more like KH2 and Reaction Commands do decent damage. Quote ^ This. I find it surprising that Square really would accommodate this in their remaster as it's a suicide mission and a huge amount of time and effort to make the game as difficult as possible and avoiding mastering the cool abilities you come by later on, but if they are to, I would agree with Keys on this. That, or they should have an option after proud/critical mode for a 'LV1 Lock' which prevents you levelling up regardless of EXP. Why would you need a level 1 lock when there's the "Zero EXP" ability? I've never played an FM so do you get the ability after hitting a certain level? If that's the case then I could understand the wish for a LV 1 lock, but I thought Zero EXP was available from the get-go, fulfilling pretty much the same role. Maybe something like an ability that sets you back at Lv1 but allows you to retain all your skills and abilities would be kinda cool. Edited February 7, 2013 by Sora_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajexmi 446 Posted February 7, 2013 On 2/7/2013 at 3:31 PM, Sora_Kuno said: Well they said the battle system will be changed to be more like KH2 and Reaction Commands do decent damage. Why would you need a level 1 lock when there's the "Zero EXP" ability? I've never played an FM so do you get the ability after hitting a certain level? If that's the case then I could understand the wish for a LV 1 lock, but I thought Zero EXP was available from the get-go, fulfilling pretty much the same role. To the best of my knowledge, Zero is not available to begin with. However, that would be a simpler replacement for a LV1 Lock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shroom847 3 Posted February 7, 2013 kh1.5 yeah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
advfox 698 Posted February 7, 2013 On 2/7/2013 at 3:39 PM, Ajexmi said: To the best of my knowledge, Zero is not available to begin with. However, that would be a simpler replacement for a LV1 Lock. On 2/7/2013 at 3:31 PM, Sora_Kuno said: Well they said the battle system will be changed to be more like KH2 and Reaction Commands do decent damage. Why would you need a level 1 lock when there's the "Zero EXP" ability? I've never played an FM so do you get the ability after hitting a certain level? If that's the case then I could understand the wish for a LV 1 lock, but I thought Zero EXP was available from the get-go, fulfilling pretty much the same role. Maybe something like an ability that sets you back at Lv1 but allows you to retain all your skills and abilities, would be kinda cool. On Critical Mode in BBS, KH3D, and KH2FM, "Zero EXP" is available from the very beginning of the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajexmi 446 Posted February 7, 2013 On 2/7/2013 at 7:56 PM, ProwerPower said: On Critical Mode in BBS, KH3D, and KH2FM, "Zero EXP" is available from the very beginning of the game. ah, fir enough, I must have disregarded it so many times that it slipped my mind! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnsemTheWise 1,114 Posted February 7, 2013 If they do change KH1 to give abilities after fights, it'll probably only be the basics like in KH2FM: Scan, Guard, etc. Giving you Second Chance and Once More kind of defeat the purpose of the difficulty setting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted February 8, 2013 My old hands accepts that challenge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King.Mickey 359 Posted February 8, 2013 On 2/7/2013 at 8:52 PM, AnsemTheWise said: If they do change KH1 to give abilities after fights, it'll probably only be the basics like in KH2FM: Scan, Guard, etc. Giving you Second Chance and Once More kind of defeat the purpose of the difficulty setting.Um, no it doesn't in the slightest. The game would be LITERALLY impossible without them...It would still be insane. Lvl 1 damage and you do half the damage you do on other difficulties, while enemies do double on you.Yeah, those abilities are absolutely needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnsemTheWise 1,114 Posted February 9, 2013 On 2/8/2013 at 3:27 AM, said: Um, no it doesn't in the slightest. The game would be LITERALLY impossible without them...It would still be insane. Lvl 1 damage and you do half the damage you do on other difficulties, while enemies do double on you.Yeah, those abilities are absolutely needed. I agree about the insanity of the difficulty, but saying the abilities are essential seems like a bit of a stretch. Yeah, you die 200 times, but failure's part of learning. The whole point of a lv1 Crit run is to test your skill, and safety nets just kind of kill the spirit of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King.Mickey 359 Posted February 9, 2013 On 2/9/2013 at 6:16 PM, AnsemTheWise said: I agree about the insanity of the difficulty, but saying the abilities are essential seems like a bit of a stretch. Yeah, you die 200 times, but failure's part of learning. The whole point of a lv1 Crit run is to test your skill, and safety nets just kind of kill the spirit of it.Yeah true, on most things you wouldn't need them. But on bosses like Maleficent dragon where it's basically impossible to dodge attacks that get you to low hp on just proud to begin with, and the final waves of heartless right before the ansem fight, either they'd be litterally impossible, or so hard only the best gamer with that kind of patience could handle lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnsemTheWise 1,114 Posted February 9, 2013 On 2/9/2013 at 8:26 PM, said: Yeah true, on most things you wouldn't need them. But on bosses like Maleficent dragon where it's basically impossible to dodge attacks that get you to low hp on just proud to begin with, and the final waves of heartless right before the ansem fight, either they'd be litterally impossible, or so hard only the best gamer with that kind of patience could handle lol. Then it's a good thing that I have a bottomless well of patience. We'll just have to see how it all plays out, and hopefully we won't be throwing our controllers at the tele in End of the World. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King.Mickey 359 Posted February 9, 2013 On 2/9/2013 at 8:35 PM, AnsemTheWise said: Then it's a good thing that I have a bottomless well of patience. We'll just have to see how it all plays out, and hopefully we won't be throwing our controllers at the tele in End of the World.Haha me too. I can't wait for this game. D: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted February 9, 2013 Of course. If you are at Lv 1, then you can't do much and one hit a boss delivers to you is like squashing a bug i.e. it will be one hit KO all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoxSox 3,593 Posted February 11, 2013 I think the whole point of doing a lvl. 1 critical playthrough is that the enemies can kill you in one hit... thats tge challenge of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites