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What are your Expectations on the Second kh remix

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Back when 1.5 was announced, I believe that Nomura said "before we release the third title, we want to push all previous entries onto one platform." 

 

So, I really think that Re: Coded, II, Dream Drop Distance, and Birth by Sleep will be in 2.5 since they weren't in the first one. Only question is, which games are actually PLAYABLE and which are just viewed in theater mode? 

II is definitely playable, (duh) and I'm sure 3D Dream Drop Distance will be a theater mode entry, but will it either be Birth by Sleep or Coded as the other playable title? It would make more sense for Birth by Sleep to be the second playable game, since all it has to be is upgraded to HD. But then again, RE: Coded actually has the "RE:" prefix in it, which makes sense for 2.5 "RE"mix. See what I'm saying? So will they probably end up remaking coded? Or? What do you think?

 

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I think if a 2.5 is made it will be

2- playable

BBS- playable

coded- scenes

and possibly DDD scenes but I think that ones new enough that they may just leave it be.

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but BBS also takes place before KH1, so that's what I'm also wondering. 1.5 has the games in Chronological order, and it wouldn't be in order if BBS was in 2.5

 

Nomura might just have done the games in 1.5 in order because he could honestly. I don't think he really has to have them in order with 2.5

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Actually, they kind of are in order. If you play BBS before Kingdom Hearts 2, it would explain clearly the cutscene where Xigbar says to Sora, "You're not half the hero the others were!" Talking about Ven, Aqua, and Terra. It would also explain the cutscene with Aqua's armor in Final Mix, and the Lingering Sentiment. Then last but not least, the secret endings of both games connect directly to each other. If you played BBS first, then the secret ending wouldn't make much sense. BUT, if they made it so you unlock BBS' secret ending after beating both Kingdom Hearts BBS and 2, as well as watching all of Coded's cutscenes after beating them, then that would work out perfectly! Then a movie version of DDD takes place and wallah! Kingdom Hearts three is ready for its debut! I honestly think they'll include a version of DDD, whether it be a report or a movie. Its just too important to the story to not include it!

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Out of my own speculation, this is what I believe would be the status of what games might be playble in KH2.5 Remix HD:

 

KH2/KH2FM:  Of course, these will be playable, it wouldn't make sense any other way.

 

Re:Coded :I do not see this as being a playable part of KH2.5 Remix HD, why?  Well, think about one of the prime reasons why 358/2 Days isn't playable in KH1.5 Remix HD.  From how I see it, one of the reasons Days wasn't playable in the HD set was because they would have had to remake the entire content of the game for it to be worthy of a playable HD remake.  They had nothing to work with in terms of gameplay so they would have had to remake the entire game.  The same thing applies for Re:Coded, it just wouldn't work as it stands, so they would have to remake the game.  Of course, we know that isn't going to happen, so I think we can throw out the idea of that game being playable.

 

BBS:  I do believe that in one way or another, this will be playable.  I'd imagine that the game would easily be transferable to another system, as well as made into an HD remake.  We'll just have to see though.

 

DDD:  I could see this game being included in the HD remake, though honestly it doesn't seem like it would make sense to include it since it hasn't been that long since it's release.

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The point of the Remakes is to get people who haven't been able to play all the entries(due to them being scattered onto so many different consoles)up to speed with the series before Kingdom Hearts III finally comes out. In addition; since a LOT of people own a PS3 nowadays, it will help encourage more people to try out the series. It was also a pretty good idea to make all of the past titles so readily available on a single console. However, its IS called 2.5 for a reason. I don't think they're going to include the first chronological game in the series for this one. People might get confused as to whats happening in Birth By Sleep when playing the entire collection, they might wonder where Sora is or confuse Ventus for Roxas. Truthfully, I want to see Birth By Sleep as a PSP Remaster(If they even make those anymore), and for 2.5 itself, I'm expecting this:

 

Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix

 

Kingdom Hearts Re:coded

 

Kingdom Hearts 3D

 

At this point, I'm pretty sure that either Re:coded or 3D could be in theater mode, but I am hoping that we see both of them playable. I doubt this will happen though, since 3D just came out, and they don't want to take attention away from the 3DS version. Because of this, I'm fairly certain that if 3D is included at all, it will be in theater mode; and re:coded will be the playable one.

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DDD:  I could see this game being included in the HD remake, though honestly it doesn't seem like it would make sense to include it since it hasn't been that long since it's release.

Square Re released Theatrhythm Final Fantasy on iOS less than six months than the 3DS version came out.

 

I think that KHII Final Mix will be in the ReMix. Re:coded will be HD cutscenes like Days. BbS may be playable as it is a major title that Nomura said that he thinks of it as "Kingdom Hearts 0." If KH3D comes to this collection it will either be in HD  cutscenes or, if they have enough time and resourses, have the game ported over with control changes since the touchscreen is not an option any more.

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Leaving out KH3D because it is relatively new seems illogical to me. It is a crucial title and one of the reasons for making this (apart from the obvious cashgrab) is to gather the titles on one platform. As I mentioned before, MGS Peace Walker and God of War: Ghost of Sparta are both PSP games that were released on HD collections approx. a year after their PSP release. Why shouldn't Square-Enix do the same? KH3D has to be on the next collection in some form at least imo. Re: coded is fine as a cutscene collection and BBS definitely should be playable.

To me there's no point in leaving out any titles or dividing them up in more than two collections.

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Well, it's not like I keep up with these news, so correct me if I am wrong in saying that it hasn't been confirmed that they are going to make HD 2.5 ReMIX. I mean think about it, I think the main reason they made HD 1.5 ReMIX is because they wanted to update the storyline to what they think it should be (I read about that on the KHWiki Page).I think KH2FM+ could definately be remade, but I think it fits the storyline pretty well as it is now.Birth by Sleep is already made HD, isn't it? And also, if they remade that, they would have to fit in 3 storylines in addition to everything else.Re: Coded could also be remade, but if they had to, I bet they've already updated the storyline when they rereleased it on the DS. 

Lastly, Dream Drop Distance shouldn't be remade, its had a recent release, they have to have had the storyline up-to-date, and upgrading it to extra HD just seems improbable.Therefore, I could be wrong, but I don't think an HD 2.5 ReMIX is really necessary.

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Here's what I think will be in the 2.5 HD Remix:

 

Kingdom Heart 2 Final Mix (Obvious seeing as KH1FM is in 1.5)

 

Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix (Again obvious since it's pretty much Kingdom Hearts 0)

 

Seeing as they have to fit three stories I don't think they'll have a theater mode for Re:Coded (Since it's pretty much filler and doesn't really tell much in terms of story)

 

But if they do it will most likely be some select cutscenes from Re:Coded including the secret ending where Yen Sid tells of MX's return and interweave that with some key scenes of 3D.

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2.5

kh2FM, coded and dream drop distance

depending on how much work they put in its really a coin toss over which would be playable. That's logical speaking the games that should be in 2.5 (games between 2 and 3, 2.5).

If it follows the "ReMIX" of 1.5, recoded and final mix (obviously) would be playable.

 

0.5

either bbsfm , bbsv2, and secret trailers hinting towards kh3, or else a simple downloadable port of bbsfm to the psn.

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My prediction for included stuff:

 

KH2 FM+ = playable(Obviously)

BBS = playable personally I thought it was better quality than KH2, and it runs on a similar, if not the same, engine as KH2.

Re:coded = cutscenes (same problem as 358//2 days, its on the ds engine which is WEAK. and would take around a year by itself as it would be a complete re-render.

 

^That^ is all I think FOR SURE will be included. 

 

3D = maybe in, maybe out. It might be deemed too new. IF it's in, I think it will be playable. Though it is a handheld, the 3DS has equal to or better graphics than PS2, and runs a better engine than KH2. Also, the 1.5 remix models were taken from 3D, so it is obviously being used already. It would be an easy port over to PS3, since it already had functionality for the Circle Pad Pro which has all the extra buttons, and they can keep the 3D effect in, since PS3 is obviously 3D capable. I love it on my 3DS, but man would it be fun to play in HD on my PS3.

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I think there will be 

KH 2

BBS

Coded (remake)

 

 

Lastly, Dream Drop Distance shouldn't be remade, its had a recent release, they have to have had the storyline up-to-date, and upgrading it to extra HD just seems improbable. 

 

Yeah, I agree. 

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Honestly I will be disappointed if they leave out BBS. There's so much story and explanation in that game, and I played it almost as much as a console title. My hope is that 2.5 will go as follows:

 

KHII FM

BBS (port/remake)

Coded (Cutscenes)

DDD (Cutscenes)

 

With regards to DDD, I won't pretend to know the logistics of porting a game from a portable to a console, let alone a dual-screened 3D game. So all I'm holding out for is cutscenes. As for Coded, I could take it or leave it. It's not exactly the most riveting point in the timeline.

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I hate to be rude but...

whats wrong with you people?

Kingdom hearts 2.5 should have

Kingdom hearts Birth by sleep final mix

Kingdom hearts 2 final mix +

Kingdom hearts re coded.

i doubt ddd would even be in the hd collection because its release is too recent

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i doubt ddd would even be in the hd collection because its release is too recent

 

Okay, this needs to be addressed. People keep saying that, but I just don't understand why?How is it too recent? Why would that matter?

There are PSP games for example (GoW, MGS) that were released on HD Collections about a year after their initial release. Resident Evil Revelations was released for the 3DS a year ago and has today been confirmed for release on home consoles.

 

The point is, KH3D is a handheld game and part of the reason for the KH HD Collections is to unite all the titles on one platform so that people new to the series or those who didn't want to buy loads of different consoles can all enjoy them without much effort.Leaving out a crucial title like 3D wouldn't make any sense imo.

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In my opinion, HD 2.5 Remix will have:

1. Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+

2. Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix

3. Kingdom Hearts Re:coded

Numbers 1 and 2 are playable and 3 will be cutscenes. I don't think KH3D will be in there because it's made in HD already and has been confirmed by Yasue and Nomura to have graphics equal to/better than BbS.

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I would hope to see Kingdom Hearts 2 (obviously), Birth By Sleep playable. And 3D cutscenes. If they could fit it on, then maybe a remake of Coded or just cutscenes. But personally I don't think there's much of a need to completely remake Coded as a game. It would take too much time for a game that doesn't have much to do with the main series.

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I have still my doubts about BBS. It sounds too big with KH2.

I think we will have only KH2 and Re:Coded cutscenes. Mayby with DDD cutscenes this game should be only for 3DS.

But as you see how long the 358/2 days movie is who knows.

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