Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted December 19, 2012 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Flaming Lea" data-cid="929036" data-time="1355956181"><p>No but he's laid out the very reason why was Sora and Roxas could which involves them having another wielders heart inside them . So yes it would be a retcon</p></blockquote>I'm sorry? I don't understand what you are trying to say. Nomura has laid out a set of rules that act as qualifications for dual wielding if he changes them later on that's a retcon. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 19, 2012 No but he's laid out the very reason why was Sora and Roxas could which involves them having another wielders heart inside them . So yes it would be a retconI'm sorry? I don't understand what you are trying to say. This. Nomura has laid out a set of rules that act as qualifications for dual wielding if he changes them later on that's a retcon. 2 Demyx. and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skratch 0 Posted December 20, 2012 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="devereauxr" data-cid="929064" data-time="1355957423"><p> Nomura has laid out a set of rules that act as qualifications for dual wielding if he changes them later on that's a retcon.</p></blockquote> Ahhh ok now I understand. There were so many gramatical mistakes I just couldn't understand what flaming lea was trying to say. Thanks for clearing that up. I still don't think that it would be a retcon because as I said nomura has never said exactly what will happen when they all separate. He's said WHY they can dual wield but not what will happen AFTER they separate. At least not to my knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 20, 2012 Nomura has laid out a set of rules that act as qualifications for dual wielding if he changes them later on that's a retcon.Ahhh ok now I understand. There were so many gramatical mistakes I just couldn't understand what flaming lea was trying to say. Thanks for clearing that up.I still don't think that it would be a retcon because as I said nomura has never said exactly what will happen when they all separate. He's said WHY they can dual wield but not what will happen AFTER they separate. At least not to my knowledge. Wow that was very rude .He had no problem reading what I said even if I used shorthand .. It was pretty straight forward. Nomura said straight up that Ven's heart being inside Sora and Roxas was why they could wield Ven's keyblade.Secondly in CoM Sora didn't have Ven's heart in him and he could NOT dual wield then . Why? Because ven's heart was in Roxas 2 Robbie the Wise and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted December 20, 2012 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="devereauxr" data-cid="929064" data-time="1355957423"><p>Nomura has laid out a set of rules that act as qualifications for dual wielding if he changes them later on that's a retcon.</p></blockquote>Ahhh ok now I understand. There were so many gramatical mistakes I just couldn't understand what flaming lea was trying to say. Thanks for clearing that up.I still don't think that it would be a retcon because as I said nomura has never said exactly what will happen when they all separate. He's said WHY they can dual wield but not what will happen AFTER they separate. At least not to my knowledge. Um I'm pretty sure her point was pretty clear. Also If Nomura lays out the specific conditions for an ability to occur then removing those conditions will remove that ability. Not for nothing that's pretty much common sense. Also he specifically lays out a set of guidlines and changes it later, it is indeed a retcon just saying. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ptolema 404 Posted December 20, 2012 Sora can dual wield because he carries Ventus's Heart within himself. Roxas uses both Sora's and Ventus's Keyblade. It would be logical to think Sora will lose dual-wielding if he returns Ventus's Heart. Unless Nomuralogic comes to play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skratch 0 Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="devereauxr" data-cid="929202" data-time="1355963455"><p> Um I'm pretty sure her point was pretty clear.<br /> Also If Nomura lays out the specific conditions for an ability to occur then removing those conditions will remove that ability. Not for nothing that's pretty much common sense. Also he specifically lays out a set of guidlines and changes it later, it is indeed a retcon just saying.</p></blockquote> Well I'm sorry if you thought it was clear, I however had a hard time understanding what flaming lea said. Yes indeed that is common sense. Why you had to point that out to me is beyond me. I already know the conditions for dual wielding and can understand why the ability would be taken away with out the conditions. But nomura can do whatever he wants and if he wants to let sora and roxas keep their dual wielding then what I was saying is that could be a reason he uses to allow it. And obviously you don't understand what a retcon is. Because a retcon is when a meaning or something that has been done in the past is changed to fit better with the plot. Nomura would not be changing anything because he has never stated the rules for what happens after the hearts and bodies are separated. Even if it was a retcon who would care, nomura has made so many in series its hard to track, so whats the problem? At flaming lea: in CoM sora had never displayed having the ability to dual wield, thus he never lost it, because he never had it in the first place. Are you two like a couple or something? Edit: I'm also not the only one who had the thought about sora and roxas's dual wielding future. Elizagreenstar just made the same point I did... Edited December 20, 2012 by Skratch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) Um I'm pretty sure her point was pretty clear. Also If Nomura lays out the specific conditions for an ability to occur then removing those conditions will remove that ability. Not for nothing that's pretty much common sense. Also he specifically lays out a set of guidlines and changes it later, it is indeed a retcon just saying. Well I'm sorry if you thought it was clear, I however had a hard time understanding what flaming lea said. Yes indeed that is common sense. Why you had to point that out to me is beyond me. I already know the conditions for dual wielding and can understand why the ability would be taken away with out the conditions. But nomura can do whatever he wants and if he wants to let sora and roxas keep their dual wielding then what I was saying is that could be a reason he uses to allow it.And obviously you don't understand what a retcon is. Because a retcon is when a meaning or something that has been done in the past is changed to fit better with the plot. Nomura would not be changing anything because he has never stated the rules for what happens after the hearts and bodies are separated. Even if it was a retcon who would care, nomura has made so many in series its hard to track, so whats the problem?At flaming lea: in CoM sora had never displayed having the ability to dual wield, thus he never lost it, because he never had it in the first place.Are you two like a couple or something?Edit: I'm also not the only one who had the thought about sora and roxas's dual wielding future. Elizagreenstar just made the same point I did... Skratch Sora never displayed dual wielding in CoM because he COULDN'T. Nomura discussed in interviews who shared what( and what keyblades were used when and why) during their separation during that time span.From the moment we ever saw Sora in CoM he had already been separated from Ven's heart in Roxas.LOL Funny how you try to illogically detract from a point where it proves your point wrong . Just like you tried to say you couldn't understand what I said when nobody else had reading issues this whole thread or any other post i've ever made for that matter .As for retcon , it's YOU who can't figure out that what you are proposing is indeed the very definition of a retcon because as we both stated , NOMURA LAID OUT THE CONDITIONS ALREADY FOR DUAL WIELDING . Changing that would indeed make it a retcon whether you want to admit to it or not, whether you try to twist your logic to fit it or not.If you want to use the 'nomura logic' answer , admit it for what it is : Nomura retconning. Don't try to sugarcoat it..Yes Nomura retcons and who said we cared if he did ? My point is I'm laying out the facts and until Nomura actually does retcon this, the fact is based on Nomuras own words they would lose dual wielding..Nomura's words= canon until he actually does retcon it..That's even IF since there's no indication he ever intends to retcon this. Finally we aren't a couple .We were both following this thread since we were both actively posting on it .Common sense. Edited December 20, 2012 by Flaming Lea 2 Demyx. and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted December 20, 2012 Alright you three, enough. You've made your points, time to move on. 2 Skratch and dusk reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraKH 793 Posted December 20, 2012 No because Ventus was the one who gave him the ability to Dual wield Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaronarrgh 41 Posted January 3, 2013 So, in KH1, could Sora have wielded 3 keyblades? Sora, Ven, and Kairi LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roy 137 Posted January 3, 2013 Yes, Ventus heart may be gone, but Roxas' one will not, afterall Roxas was the nobody who had a heart. So therefore he can wield 2 Keyblades. Actually all nobodies had a heart or else they be like xenmas....with no emotion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted January 3, 2013 So, in KH1, could Sora have wielded 3 keyblades? Sora, Ven, and Kairi LOL. No Kairi had yet to get her own keyblade, therefore there was no keyblade for hime to access. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weiss 8,279 Posted January 3, 2013 I don't think he will unless he finds some new way to do it which I doubt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xer 670 Posted January 3, 2013 Actually all nobodies had a heart or else they be like xenmas....with no emotion. I actually have played KH3D, but thats a spoiler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rami 11 Posted January 3, 2013 terranort is zoro from one piece, he has three hearts inside him and all of them can summon a keyblade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nintuba64 0 Posted June 8, 2013 What i think nemora is going to do for the sake of gameplay, because let's face it beating heartless to death was twice as fun with two keyblades, is he will say that sora in addition to his own keyblade, his heart is connected to so many others, that on thier own are too weak to wield, together, like in sora can work together to summon a second Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites