"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 14, 2012 How is Traverse Town still a Dreaming World. At the end of KH3D, you see Sora dive into the sleeping world of Traverse Town. As you know, Sora and Riku unlock the keyholes for this world. With this fact, Traverse Town should be awake by now and should not be a dreaming anymore. I also understand that Destiny Islands was a starting point to the realm of sleep and by unlocking the realm of sleep it unlocked one of the sleeping keyholes. I just don't understand why they consider that a sleeping world when clearly it's not considering Destiny Islands was revived at the end of KHI and that knowing that sleeping worlds are worlds that fell into darkness but were not revived following the defeat of Ansem Sod for unknown reasons. 1 Master Keeper reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessDream 2,278 Posted December 14, 2012 For Destiny Islands it was the point when the island was about to get destroyed right? So I think they consider Destiny Islands a sleeping world because they were sent back to the time when the islands were about to become a sleeping world. As for Traverse Town I'm pretty sure there's a plausible explanation for that, I just have no idea what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XxJIBYxX 24 Posted December 14, 2012 With Destiny Islands, they were just sent back in time to before it got swallowed by darkness. And Traverse Town i think it's because its not actually a "Sleeping World", Joshua said this was in his dreams, and that he created this Traverse Town because the other TWEWY people needed it. I think that as long as they need this Traverse Town, it will still be there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 14, 2012 For Destiny Islands it was the point when the island was about to get destroyed right? So I think they consider Destiny Islands a sleeping world because they were sent back to the time when the islands were about to become a sleeping world. As for Traverse Town I'm pretty sure there's a plausible explanation for that, I just have no idea what it is. I know that they were sent through time and by doing so, it changed they're outwards appearance and all. But that doesn't explain why it's a sleeping world. The reason they start out there is because by that time they resided within Destiny Islands and didn't go world jumping yet. After all, a sleeping world is world not revived or not ceased to exist such as The World That Never Was. Heck, End of the World could have been a sleeping world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatChainmecha 16 Posted December 14, 2012 Traverse Town simply appears to anyone who needs it, so sora could easily find it this was clearly explained by Ienzo X( 1 Sora_Roxas26 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 14, 2012 With Destiny Islands, they were just sent back in time to before it got swallowed by darkness. And Traverse Town i think it's because its not actually a "Sleeping World", Joshua said this was in his dreams, and that he created this Traverse Town because the other TWEWY people needed it. I think that as long as they need this Traverse Town, it will still be there. I know they were sent back in time, but that doesn't necessarily mean it ever became a sleeping world after it was consumed by darkness. Remember, sleeping worlds are worlds that neither reside in the light or the darkness. and the thing about traverse town is that its a world that's provided for those who lost their worlds and since all the worlds were recovered after KH1(cept for the dreaming worlds) it ceased to exist making it a sleeping world. also joshua didn't create traverse, he found it and used his friends' dreams to transport all of them into that world in order to save their existence. Traverse Town simply appears to anyone who needs it, so sora could easily find it this was clearly explained by Ienzo X( That doesn't explain why it's still in the dream realm though. For Destiny Islands it was the point when the island was about to get destroyed right? So I think they consider Destiny Islands a sleeping world because they were sent back to the time when the islands were about to become a sleeping world. As for Traverse Town I'm pretty sure there's a plausible explanation for that, I just have no idea what it is. With Destiny Islands, they were just sent back in time to before it got swallowed by darkness. And Traverse Town i think it's because its not actually a "Sleeping World", Joshua said this was in his dreams, and that he created this Traverse Town because the other TWEWY people needed it. I think that as long as they need this Traverse Town, it will still be there. Traverse Town simply appears to anyone who needs it, so sora could easily find it this was clearly explained by Ienzo X( I appreciate your answers guys =) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Juan 574 Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Traverse Town is like a drunk whore at the bar, its always there when you need it. Edited December 14, 2012 by Master Juan 3 "Photos"GIM?, Ultima Spark and KingdomHeartsSora reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessDream 2,278 Posted December 14, 2012 But I think you said it yourself then. If a sleeping world is a world that ceased to exist, didn't destiny islands cease to exist the moment it fell into darkness? Ergo it could have been a sleeping world, and they were there at about the time it fell into darkness/ceased to exist/went to sleep. o.o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 14, 2012 Traverse Town is an in between world with special properties ( just like the Mysterious Tower and etc etc )and like mentioned above its there for whoever needs it .Sora needed it to visit his dream eater friends so it was made available to him ..Destiny Istands was bc they were sent there just as the world was plunged into darkness .This was explained in game I believe..By being plunged into darkness it qualified as sleeping. 5 Weiss, Robbie the Wise, Demyx. and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted December 14, 2012 At the end of the game, when Sora returned he said something along the lines of, "Good, I was hoping it would still be here". This seems to suggest that the world hadn't woken up yet. However, what I find confusing, is how, or why Sora and Riku unlocked the sleeping Keyhole in Traverse Town twice. Once during their first visit and again during the second. 1 "Photos"GIM? reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted December 14, 2012 I think that was the Destiny Islands that was momentarily asleep, when it was destroyed, but before it got back to normal. To tell the truth, i don't consider it a Sleeping World, because it kinda seems a fake, just used as a strating point, but i'm not sure. As for Traverse Town, I always figured that it was awekening. Like, it is waking up from the dream, and when Sora visited it in the end of KH3D, it was still asleep, but in the process. At the end of the game, when Sora returned he said something along the lines of, "Good, I was hoping it would still be here". This seems to suggest that the world hadn't woken up yet. However, what I find confusing, is how, or why Sora and Riku unlocked the sleeping Keyhole in Traverse Town twice. Once during their first visit and again during the second. Yeah, basically this Posted while I was writing 1 "Photos"GIM? reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caity 3,946 Posted December 14, 2012 Given Sora and Riku's younger looking appearance, I would assume along with still sleeping worlds (e.g. Prankster's paradise which wasn't saved in a game before) that certain already unlocked worlds were "plucked" from the time line while still sleeping for the test. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) But I think you said it yourself then. If a sleeping world is a world that ceased to exist, didn't destiny islands cease to exist the moment it fell into darkness? Ergo it could have been a sleeping world, and they were there at about the time it fell into darkness/ceased to exist/went to sleep. o.o Well im talking about cease to exist after the defeat of ansem seaker of darkness. Destiny islands was restored so it cant be a dream world. after this but not traverse town cease to exist once the worlds was restored thus making it a dream world where it resides nethier light or darkness. I repeat a sleeping world is a world that was taken by darkness but later resides neither light or darkness after the defeat of ansem sod. Edited December 15, 2012 by "Photos"GIM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 15, 2012 But I think you said it yourself then. If a sleeping world is a world that ceased to exist, didn't destiny islands cease to exist the moment it fell into darkness? Ergo it could have been a sleeping world, and they were there at about the time it fell into darkness/ceased to exist/went to sleep. o.o[/quo Well im talking about cease to exist after the defeat of ansem seaker of darkness. Destiny islands was restored so it cant be a dream world. after this but not traverse town cease to exist once the worlds was restored thus making it a dream world where it resides nethier light or darkness. I repeat a sleeping world is a world that was taken by darkness but later resides neither light or darkness after the defeat of ansem sod. Well im talking about cease to exist after the defeat of ansem seaker of darkness. Destiny islands was restored so it cant be a dream world. after this but not traverse town cease to exist once the worlds was restored thus making it a dream world where it resides nethier light or darkness. I repeat a sleeping world is a world that was taken by darkness but later resides neither light or darkness after the defeat of ansem sod. They were sent back in time to when Destiny Islands fell therefore at that given moment it wasn't restored yet ..Sora and Riku time traveled to that point in the PAST. Traverse Town is an IN BETWEEN WORLD ..Key word = in between ..Just like TWTNW ( another in between world!) was existing in both sleep and while they were awake in real time when you visited the final world . 5 Robbie the Wise, Demyx., "Photos"GIM? and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessDream 2,278 Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) They were sent back in time to when Destiny Islands fell therefore at that given moment it wasn't restored yet ..Sora and Riku time traveled to that point in the PAST. Traverse Town is an IN BETWEEN WORLD ..Key word = in between ..Just like TWTNW ( another in between world!) was existing in both sleep and while they were awake in real time when you visited the final world . Dear god, thank you Flaming Lea, I couldn't have responded to it better myself!~ What she said^^ I've been trying to say that bit about destiny islands the whole time T_T Edited December 15, 2012 by WakelessDream 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 15, 2012 Dear god, thank you Flaming Lea, I couldn't have responded to it better myself!~ What she said^^ You are welcome 3 Robbie the Wise, luka and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 15, 2012 They were sent back in time to when Destiny Islands fell therefore at that given moment it wasn't restored yet ..Sora and Riku time traveled to that point in the PAST. Traverse Town is an IN BETWEEN WORLD ..Key word = in between ..Just like TWTNW ( another in between world!) was existing in both sleep and while they were awake in real time when you visited the final world . But when a world is fallen, they reside in the darkness. Whereas in a dreaming world, it resides between darkness and light. Destiny islands would be a dream world if it never was recovered. I gotcha on the traverse town . Hope im not frustrating y'all i just like to converse and what not. But when a world is fallen, they reside in the darkness. Whereas in a dreaming world, it resides between darkness and light. Destiny islands would be a dream world if it never was recovered. I gotcha on the traverse town . Hope im not frustrating y'all i just like to converse and what not. Wait i messed up lol. It doesnt reside between the darkness and light. Its just worlds that have been lost in the darkness but never was recovered after the defeat of ansem sod. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 15, 2012 But when a world is fallen, they reside in the darkness. Whereas in a dreaming world, it resides between darkness and light. Destiny islands would be a dream world if it never was recovered. I gotcha on the traverse town . Hope im not frustrating y'all i just like to converse and what not. Dude what i explained to you was canon fact from Nomura himself .Read the interviews .Destiny Island DID RECOVER ..But at the time Riku and Sora were sent back in time in DDD it was in the middle of falling and hadnt recovered YET ...AT THAT GIVEN MOMENT...Obviously after the events that occurred in KH1 this changed and DI was recovered . 3 Robbie the Wise, Demyx. and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 15, 2012 Dude what i explained to you was canon fact from Nomura himself .Read the interviews .Destiny Island DID RECOVER ..But at the time Riku and Sora were sent back in time in DDD it was in the middle of falling and hadnt recovered YET ...AT THAT GIVEN MOMENT...Obviously after the events that occurred in KH1 this changed and DI was recovered . But the thing is worlds that arent recovered AFTER ansem sod was defeated became dream worlds. And after sora defeated destiny islands was restored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 15, 2012 But the thing is worlds that arent recovered AFTER ansem sod was defeated became dream worlds. And after sora defeated destiny islands was restored. What part of they were sent back to DI in the past don't you get ? They weren't sent to the present day DI .OMG...THEY TIME TRAVELED TO DI IN THE PAST..They used that brief moment where they were sent there as it fell as a doorway into the sleeping realm . 3 luka, Demyx. and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 15, 2012 What part of they were sent back to DI in the past don't you get ? They weren't sent to the present day DI .OMG...THEY TIME TRAVELED TO DI IN THE PAST..They used that brief moment where they were sent there as it fell as a doorway into the sleeping realm . I know that they traveled to the pasr and i know they used destiny islands a a gate way into the dream realm. What im saying is that i dont believe it was a ever a dreaming world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 15, 2012 I know that they traveled to the pasr and i know they used destiny islands a a gate way into the dream realm. What im saying is that i dont believe it was a ever a dreaming world. Take it up with Nomura. 3 Demyx., Robbie the Wise and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Photos"GIM? 72 Posted December 15, 2012 Take it up with Nomura. nice doing business with you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyrrha Nikos 1,162 Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) It's been explained in the Famitsu interviews that Sora and Riku time traveled back before their island became a sleeping world and were specifically send there to open the sleeping keyhole of DI to enter the Realm of Sleep. And as for Traverse Town, as Flaming Lea said: It is a world that stands between light & darkness and it's called to those who are in seek of shelter as Ienzo pointed out in DDD. Edited December 15, 2012 by Silent Maiden 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted December 15, 2012 It's been explained the Famitsu interviews that Sora and Riku time traveled back before their island became a sleeping world and were specifically send there to open the sleeping keyhole of DI to enter the Realm of Sleep. And as for Traverse Town, as Flaming Lea said: It is world that stands between light & darkness and are called to those who are in seek of shelter as Ienzo pointed out in DDD. Exactly what I've tried telling him but he won't listen ...lol ..He needs to read the interviews .. 5 luka, Demyx., WakelessDream and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites