KHBbS Aqua's popularity

[Dracozombie 4,554]

So I've recently came across bitching about certain bitches whose name is in the title of this thread.  Not that I consider her a member of Canis lupus, though I do consider her female (psst!  Check her chest!), and it's my suspicion this plays a factor in the lovin' she gets.  Oh, who am I trying to kid?  Her being a girl is one of the factors in her popularity, because Aqua is the first female character in the KH franchise that fulfills all three of the following: kind, strong, and effectual.  Kairi and Xion fulfill "kind" and "strong."  Namine fulfills "kind" and "effectual."  Larxene fulfills "strong" and "effectual."

 

As Aqua is the first to fulfill all three--kind because she cares about her friends, strong for her fighting ability, and effectual for her overall role in the plot (wraps up most of the Disney worlds and BBS's story in general when Terra and Ventus didn't/couldn't)--she was a novelty in KH, helped by how she was also the first to be fully playable.  It's her being playable that gave her proper screentime and allowed us to follow her story directly, instead of her story being mostly centered around the other (male) characters.  When you don't have anyone but Kairi, Xion, and Larxene to compare her to, of course Aqua would stand out and receive favorable attention.  Even Nomura was surprised she got so popular given the pattern of the other female characters.

 

Say what you will about her character and her depth (or perhaps, her lack thereof), but Aqua's been called a female Sora for a reason.  Unlike Terra and Ventus, she was a legitimate hero, hampered only by BBS's nature as a prequel so you know shit's ultimately gonna hit the fan.  Still, she gave a good run, even if I don't think BBS's plot did her character any justice.  It's difficult for a lot of people to buy her closeness with Terra and Ventus since they spend about 15 percent of BBS in each other's vicinity, and 10 percent of that 15 percent was her worrying (and maybe getting bitchy) over Terra's risk of darkness, and trying to send Ventus home.  The game was so busy focusing on TAV's parallels to Sora, Riku, and Kairi that they forgot to flesh them out on their own terms.  Bleh.  Y'know, I really shouldn't have to use my own headcanon for their friendship when, given how friendship is KH's main theme, it should've been given far more attention than it did.

 

And believe me, I've seen whining over "waaah shes stupid cuz she saved terranort!!1" on this forum and beyond.  Ask yourself, why would a calculating guy like Xehanort stab himself with his own firetrucking keyblade unless Terra was so close to getting his body back that it was the only possible option (think back to how Sora went stabbity on himself as well at Hollow Bastion)?  And since immediately after said stabbity, Terranort sank into a portal of darkness, someone who cares so dearly about her friends (even if it was given far too little attention for its own good) wouldn't waste time thinking if maybe Xehanort was still in him.  There was essentially no proof one way or the other, but she had to act now and she wasn't gonna take the chance of letting her friend fall into darkness.  It was the whims of the plot that it turned out to be a bad decision, but Aqua hadn't played KH1 and 2 and so had no idea how it'd turn out.  She also didn't seem to have played CoM, either, because otherwise she'd have known her new castle would've turned into Organization Headquarters 2.  Maybe she could've dumped Ventus under a rock somewhere.  No one would think to look there.

 

So yeah, first female fully playable protagonist that can actually get shit done.  A hero and a novelty.

 

Oh, and people just think she's hot.  I think that was the elephant in the room here.

[_The Door To Light_ 1,507]

Thank you. Just, thank you.

[Master Juan 574]

She's got tig ol' bitties.

[Oishii 3,987]

  On 12/9/2012 at 3:56 AM, Dracozombie said:

Maybe she could've dumped Ventus under a rock somewhere.  No one would think to look there.

She might as well have.  Have you thought about how uncomfortable that chair she left him in must be?  That kids going to have back soars from hell when he wakes up.

 

...You've made me want to play BBS again. Such a good game...

[Dracozombie 4,554]

  On 12/9/2012 at 4:22 AM, Master Juan said:

She's got tig ol' bitties.

 

Big enough to provide their own fanclub.  Not coincidentally, it's one of the most popular fanclubs on this site.

 

  On 12/9/2012 at 4:29 AM, Oishii said:

She might as well have.  Have you thought about how uncomfortable that chair she left him in must be?  That kids going to have back soars from hell when he wakes up.

 

...You've made me want to play BBS again. Such a good game...

 

His butt, too.  Mine gets sore from sitting on a hard, flat surface after just an hour--how's Ventus gonna feel after 10+ years?  Bless his soul.  It looks like Sora's gonna have to rescue Ventus from more than just his lack of a heart.

[Master Juan 574]

  On 12/9/2012 at 4:32 AM, Dracozombie said:

His butt, too.  Mine gets sore from sitting on a hard, flat surface after just an hour--how's Ventus gonna feel after 10+ years?  Bless his soul.  It looks like Sora's gonna have to rescue Ventus from more than just his lack of a heart.

Epic win.

[Mystics Apprentice 2,397]

*Gives round of applause*, those are some valid points about Aqua's popularity.  I'd always thought it was because she was an overall strong female protagonist but, given all the ones within the Kingdom Hearts saga, Aqua's one of the characters with a great deal of personality.  I can't say this for all the male characters, but pretty much all the female ones thus far--and a good handful of the guys--were too shallow.

 

Now, I hadn't liked Aqua until I played BbS.  She seemed like just another Kairi and law-abider that put her foot in her mouth too much, but after playing I took a very different stance on her.  She's a strong-willed character with plenty of background and development, which overall made her stand well in the series.

[Ruran 481]

Is this about my bitch fit in another thread?

 

*huff*

 

And I thought my opinion would be left to the way side and forgotten about.  

[Enmaa 124]

  Ruran said:

Is this about my bitch fit in another thread? *huff* And I thought my opinion would be left to the way side and forgotten about.  

Hm shoutout to the show Wayside

[Ruran 481]

  On 12/9/2012 at 6:48 AM, EnfinityMAD said:

Hm shoutout to the show Wayside

 

*Googles*

 

Interesting. I don't really remember this but it does tickle some far off part of my brain. 

[KeybladeWielder_ 161]

  On 12/9/2012 at 4:32 AM, Dracozombie said:

His butt, too.  Mine gets sore from sitting on a hard, flat surface after just an hour--how's Ventus gonna feel after 10+ years?  Bless his soul.  It looks like Sora's gonna have to rescue Ventus from more than just his lack of a heart.

But think about. You eat and (hopefully) maintain a healthy diet. Ventus, the poor boy, hasn't eaten in 10+ years. There won't be a butt to be hurt. His bones will be aching though.

 

Although... No one seems to eat in Kingdom Hearts. Goofy drinks tea and Dream Eaters eat Block-It Chocolates etc. and Dreams....

So maybe my post is competely invalid...

What a wonderful world.

[NotoriousXIII 15]

  On 12/9/2012 at 7:31 AM, KeybladeWielder_ said:

But think about. You eat and (hopefully) maintain a healthy diet. Ventus, the poor boy, hasn't eaten in 10+ years. There won't be a butt to be hurt. His bones will be aching though.

 

Although... No one seems to eat in Kingdom Hearts. Goofy drinks tea and Dream Eaters eat Block-It Chocolates etc. and Dreams....

So maybe my post is competely invalid...

What a wonderful world.

Kingdom Hearts isn't supposed to make sense...Roxas never ate in Days, he was sleeping for weeks, xion too.

 

But who knows, Roxas slept for week in days on that Flat-surface bed in The castle that never was, but i kicked ass with him right after he woke up, maybe they are more comfortable then they look, Lea slept in Vacation( day off ) like a dog as he said, But still i feel sorry for ventus, he'll be real confused when he wakes up, "2 White haired terras, clone of me with dual keyblades, a keyblade master that looks like vanitas, BRAIG!!! o.o"

He'll probably go back to his uncomfortable looking bed after seeing all this...

[Dracozombie 4,554]

  On 12/9/2012 at 6:19 AM, Ruran said:

Is this about my bitch fit in another thread?

 

*huff*

 

And I thought my opinion would be left to the way side and forgotten about.  

 

Eeeyup</bigmac>.  Well, not necessarily, but it was a trigger for an argument I've seen in the past.  And here on KH13, no one is ever forgotten about.  Ever.  Plus the rules of the interwebs dictate anyone who disses something you enjoy shall, without fail, shall be assaulted with flaming puppies.

[Ruran 481]

  On 12/9/2012 at 4:17 PM, Dracozombie said:

Eeeyup</bigmac>.  Well, not necessarily, but it was a trigger for an argument I've seen in the past.  And here on KH13, no one is ever forgotten about.  Ever.  Plus the rules of the interwebs dictate anyone who disses something you enjoy shall, without fail, shall be assaulted with flaming puppies.

Why puppies? ;w;

You successfully activated internet rules 1,2, and 19.

 

"In people's memories, I can live for ever."

 

In infamy.（￣ー￣）

[Smithee 327]

Aqua may end up becoming an Eraqus-like Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds in a future game (or even KH3 itself), given how Darkness (and BBS's plot) screwed her and her friends over.

Edited December 10, 2012 by Alan Smithee

[Shera Wizard 2,736]

  Dracozombie said:

So I've recently came across bitching about certain bitches whose name is in the title of this thread.  Not that I consider her a member of Canis lupus, though I do consider her female (psst!  Check her chest!), and it's my suspicion this plays a factor in the lovin' she gets.  Oh, who am I trying to kid?  Her being a girl is one of the factors in her popularity, because Aqua is the first female character in the KH franchise that fulfills all three of the following: kind, strong, and effectual.  Kairi and Xion fulfill "kind" and "strong."  Namine fulfills "kind" and "effectual."  Larxene fulfills "strong" and "effectual." As Aqua is the first to fulfill all three--kind because she cares about her friends, strong for her fighting ability, and effectual for her overall role in the plot (wraps up most of the Disney worlds and BBS's story in general when Terra and Ventus didn't/couldn't)--she was a novelty in KH, helped by how she was also the first to be fully playable.  It's her being playable that gave her proper screentime and allowed us to follow her story directly, instead of her story being mostly centered around the other (male) characters.  When you don't have anyone but Kairi, Xion, and Larxene to compare her to, of course Aqua would stand out and receive favorable attention.  Even Nomura was surprised she got so popular given the pattern of the other female characters. Say what you will about her character and her depth (or perhaps, her lack thereof), but Aqua's been called a female Sora for a reason.  Unlike Terra and Ventus, she was a legitimate hero, hampered only by BBS's nature as a prequel so you know shit's ultimately gonna hit the fan.  Still, she gave a good run, even if I don't think BBS's plot did her character any justice.  It's difficult for a lot of people to buy her closeness with Terra and Ventus since they spend about 15 percent of BBS in each other's vicinity, and 10 percent of that 15 percent was her worrying (and maybe getting bitchy) over Terra's risk of darkness, and trying to send Ventus home.  The game was so busy focusing on TAV's parallels to Sora, Riku, and Kairi that they forgot to flesh them out on their own terms.  Bleh.  Y'know, I really shouldn't have to use my own headcanon for their friendship when, given how friendship is KH's main theme, it should've been given far more attention than it did. And believe me, I've seen whining over "waaah shes stupid cuz she saved terranort!!1" on this forum and beyond.  Ask yourself, why would a calculating guy like Xehanort stab himself with his own firetrucking keyblade unless Terra was so close to getting his body back that it was the only possible option (think back to how Sora went stabbity on himself as well at Hollow Bastion)?  And since immediately after said stabbity, Terranort sank into a portal of darkness, someone who cares so dearly about her friends (even if it was given far too little attention for its own good) wouldn't waste time thinking if maybe Xehanort was still in him.  There was essentially no proof one way or the other, but she had to act now and she wasn't gonna take the chance of letting her friend fall into darkness.  It was the whims of the plot that it turned out to be a bad decision, but Aqua hadn't played KH1 and 2 and so had no idea how it'd turn out.  She also didn't seem to have played CoM, either, because otherwise she'd have known her new castle would've turned into Organization Headquarters 2.  Maybe she could've dumped Ventus under a rock somewhere.  No one would think to look there. So yeah, first female fully playable protagonist that can actually get shit done.  A hero and a novelty. Oh, and people just think she's hot.  I think that was the elephant in the room here.

Quota...WHY?

[Caity 3,946]

Tbh I'm sure most her fan base is for her chest, anytime she's about to fight her close up is looking up at her from a lower angle showcasing Them.

 

Id say she's a female version of Eraqus. Even though she cared for her friends she had a narrow mind about light and dark (thinking you had to repel the darkness to be good, when Riku shows you can use it to fight on the side of light)

 

ven is a comparison to Sora. Even though he's pure light he was there for his friend, channeling the darkness.

 

And a survey conducted by nintendo confirmed people receive female, strong, independent protagonists well, since its smashing the damsel in distress stereotype most female characters play (hence why Kairis being brought into action and given some fighting ability)

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This thread is gold.

The replies are wonderful.

Aqua is wonderful andsoareherboobs

[Weedanort 8,786]

 

Everything that needed to be said was said. You need an award Dracozombie.

 

Also, her boobs...HER BOOBS

Edited January 1, 2013 by Sora's Little Helper