Amon 4,279 Posted December 4, 2012 The Commissar is to represent the moderation, the Gaurdsman hugging the Commissar represents us members. The fighting in the background represents the flamewars ensuing around us. Now that the hug and metaphor is aside lets get some things straight. In the light of recent events, several members have been temporarily banned from the forums (and I'm assuming the rest of the website), including Kinode who is a fairly long time and prominent member that we've all come to know and interact with daily. One of our moderators, Koko has departed voluntarily as well whether this is due to recent events on these forums or her own personal life we will never know and it certainly isn't our business to know but I felt it should be brought to attention as we are down one moderator. Correction, it appears Koko was let off the moderation team and left shortly after that. Point is, we are down a mod. It appears that the rule change and the discussion of whether it should stay, be modified, or repealed all together is the catalyst behind these events. Initially it started out as a civil conversation and it still is for the most part. However this has seemed to have disgruntled many of our members or as the internet would say, "Rustled their jimmies". The current state of KH13 This jimmie rustling has appeared to have caused some old grudges and bad blood to spark out temporarily between members in a public fashion. The validity of the claims people have made cannot be determined. What we all need to do is chill out and think rationally before the bloody forum goes into all out anarchy. You may be thinking to yourselves "This is Amon (fredfredbug4 for the old farts) writing this thread! How of all people could he be calling for calm? He is a troll! This is probably some troll plot!". I can't blame you for thinking that way but nonetheless those are not my current intentions. I like this forum, whenever I actually do troll here it's very light hearted and in a way that will not permantly damage my relationship with other people on this website but I digress. Everyone needs to take a step back and calm down. We need to go back to the civil discussion about these rules and prevent escalation to a clusterfiretruck. Any personal problems you have with other members should be brought to the attention of a moderator. That is their job after all, to moderate, it's in the title. Or if you don't want the Moderator Inquisition looking down upon your problems in the name of the God-Emperor of KH13 then sort your problems out personally with the other person, just be nice. Just remember a few things: -DChuich, Aaron (he has to be lurking through all of this) and the moderators are trying to work out a compromise whether you are against the rules changes, indifferent, or for them. Let's not make DC loose hope and actually rule the website like The God-Emperor of Mankind (Think Jesus-Hitler in space). -The drama isn't necessary, the drama doesn't make anything better, any drama causers will face vigilante justice by me in the form of moderate trolling (cause it's all I can f'in do) -For the most part we all got along pretty well in the past (with minor disturbances of course) so lets not ruin that now. So yeah, KTHXBYE TL;DR: Everyone calm the firetruck down, we got this. 16 Dracozombie, Snow, King Demise and 13 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Everbee 1,365 Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) YOU KNOW YOU ALL ARE STUPID WHEN A TROLL HAS TO CALM YA TITS! But really guys this is stupid. Just calm down and eat some pie or somethin. Edited December 4, 2012 by 4Everbee 1 Amon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nohjx 157 Posted December 4, 2012 I do like me a nice civil conversation. 1 Amon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted December 4, 2012 Never in my days have I seen such a mass rustling. 2 Amon and Kaiso reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted December 4, 2012 First, I want to say Amon, despite you're trolling, and our (sometimes vastly) different political views, you are still one of the members I respect most on this site. I would hope no one would expect this to be some troll plot. Anyway, reading this thread I'm glad I finally got a (somewhat) straight answer as to WTF has been going on. I don't know what went on with Koko, but if she left voluntarily then I see no reason to create a s***storm about it. As for Kinode (the only member I knew was banned before this thread), after reading a thread he made that was very quickly deleted, and Cella's comments on why he was banned, I think a temporary ban was for the best (before he did something worse and got perma-banned, which wouldn't be fun, since I would consider Kinode one of my "friends"* on this site). People just need to calm down. And the fact that this was started by a rule change? Disappointing. On 12/4/2012 at 2:39 AM, Space Cowboy said: Never in my days have I seen such a mass rustling. Indeed. *Friend being used liberally, as I don't really know anyone here on any kind of personal level. 2 Amon and CjmonXIII reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted December 4, 2012 On 12/4/2012 at 2:39 AM, Space Cowboy said: Never in my days have I seen such a mass rustling. I felt a great disturbance in the jimmies, as if hundreds of jimmies cried out in anguish and were suddenly rustled. I fear something terrible has happened. 2 Space Cowboy and Elijah Gravenhorst reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted December 4, 2012 Ok I went to look in the rules section for whatever this was about and I didn't find anything remotely offensive so could someone please tell me what the heck is going on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Think Pink 1,967 Posted December 4, 2012 Not going to join in with any of the arguing that's been happening, but I feel like it's worth pointing out that Koko didn't leave voluntarily. She was kicked off of the staff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozombie 4,554 Posted December 4, 2012 THANK YOU. I've been trying to keep an arm's length at all the drama recently unfolding because it's difficult to take a side and the whole thing's way too heated. It's weird because for a community brought together by a video game franchise promoting friendship and killing things with keys, the place is getting pretty Dark. No one wants to pull a Terra and become the very thing they're fighting against: namely, poor reactions brought by the unnecessary rustling of jimmies (and creepy grandpas, I guess). Unfortunately, this is the internet and you can't expect everyone to be civil. I suppose the best you can hope for is to keep a cool head and at least attempt to be the rational one. 2 Pyrrha Nikos and Think Pink reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted December 4, 2012 On 12/4/2012 at 2:44 AM, Amon said: I felt a great disturbance in the jimmies, as if hundreds of jimmies cried out in anguish and were suddenly rustled. I fear something terrible has happened. This isn't the end, my friend. This is just a teaser of the Great Rustling that will happen on 12/21, a mere 19 days away. Prepare your jimmies friend. 2 Amon and Jilly Shears reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) On 12/4/2012 at 2:44 AM, Elijah Gravenhorst said: Ok I went to look in the rules section for whatever this was about and I didn't find anything remotely offensive so could someone please tell me what the heck is going on? A rule was added that forbade the use of creating threads entirely centered around inside jokes or individual members. Many people including myself saw this as a problem because we feel it is restricting our own little culture that we created here on KH13. The counter argument is that these inside joke threads exclude newer/more reserved members and make them feel left out. Some people don't care as they are not aware of the rule or it doesn't really effect them. Read into to it a bit and form your own opinion. On 12/4/2012 at 2:45 AM, Think Pink said: Not going to join in with any of the arguing that's been happening, but I feel like it's worth pointing out that Koko didn't leave voluntarily. She was kicked off of the staff. Interesting, I did not know this. I will modify the post accordingly but will make no official statements until a moderator or admin can speak on this. On 12/4/2012 at 2:45 AM, Dracozombie said: THANK YOU. I've been trying to keep an arm's length at all the drama recently unfolding because it's difficult to take a side and the whole thing's way too heated. It's weird because for a community brought together by a video game franchise promoting friendship and killing things with keys, the place is getting pretty Dark. No one wants to pull a Terra and become the very thing they're fighting against: namely, poor reactions brought by the unnecessary rustling of jimmies (and creepy grandpas, I guess). Unfortunately, this is the internet and you can't expect everyone to be civil. I suppose the best you can hope for is to keep a cool head and at least attempt to be the rational one. I am well versed in the line of internet drama, so I discovered the best way to handle it is to either pummel it into oblivion with heavy trolling or try to calm everyone down. I chose the latter because I actually like the people here. Edited December 4, 2012 by Amon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arya Stark 1,337 Posted December 4, 2012 Ok, now that we had the civil discussion, where are the hugs going down? 1 Amon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted December 4, 2012 On 12/4/2012 at 3:15 AM, Yuffie Kisaragi said: Ok, now that we had the civil discussion, where are the hugs going down? I'm pretty sure there is hugging on top of the thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyrrha Nikos 1,162 Posted December 4, 2012 Thank you so very much for posting this Amon! Now, lets give everyone a hug and a pat on the back 2 Shera Wizard and Amon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted December 4, 2012 Yeah, I'm still confused as to just SO MUCH shit hit the fan, all simultaneously, on this site o.O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted December 4, 2012 On 12/4/2012 at 4:19 AM, hatok said: Yeah, I'm still confused as to just SO MUCH shit hit the fan, all simultaneously, on this site o.O It appears some people have some grudges that they never really got settled and found that this was the excuse to go all out. I also think DC should of waited to remove Koko from the staff for a few days to a week. Doing it today almost caused an uproar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalnet 1,198 Posted December 4, 2012 Couldn't agree with you more good sir! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted December 4, 2012 Thank you, for this. I feel like everyone has been overreacting and going crazy lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted December 4, 2012 If it isn't out of line, does anyone know why Koko was removed? If whoever knows would rather not divulge the reason, I completely understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) On 12/4/2012 at 8:40 PM, DragonMaster said: If it isn't out of line, does anyone know why Koko was removed? If whoever knows would rather not divulge the reason, I completely understand. DC made a thread about it.Edit: Got removed though. He basically said that Koko was inactive and hadn't even spoken to him in over a month. Edited December 4, 2012 by Space Cowboy 2 DragonMaster and Kaiso reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) On 12/4/2012 at 11:19 PM, Space Cowboy said: DC made a thread about it.Edit: Got removed though. He basically said that Koko was inactive and hadn't even spoken to him in over a month. Ah, I missed it. Oh well, thank-you. Well, now I think I am finally filled in on the major stuff that went down. Edited December 4, 2012 by DragonMaster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites