darklunatic 81 Posted November 21, 2012 I never said Wii U is good or bad because I hadn't bought it yet. You can't judge the Wii U in just his first month of release. and I have to say a lot about the entire Anti-Nintendo things that started with Bayonetta 2.But I'll save that for later. but I'm gonna say: Will you be happy if I done THIS: Sony sucks and anyone who opposes me is a fanboy. I think you will like that huh???? God the internet just keeps getting more twisted thats your opinion i could care less for what you think of a company my fav is my fav yours is yours and to me bayonetta was just a big rip off of epic dmc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted November 21, 2012 Sony sucks and anyone who opposes me is a fanboy. It's true, Sony cares even less than Nintendo. The only people that screw their costumers over more are Activision and EA. 4 axele, Snow, Hei and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snow 1,800 Posted November 21, 2012 It's true, Sony cares even less than Nintendo. The only people that screw their costumers over more are Activision and EA. True, but still. Free internet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted November 21, 2012 Will you be happy if I done THIS: Sony sucks and anyone who opposes me is a fanboy. I think you will like that huh???? God the internet just keeps getting more twisted What are you even talking about? Nobody said that about nintendo on this thread. You're the one making this a fanboy war. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Actually, no, because that's your opinion and we respect it. Microsoft and Nintendo suck. Am I fanboy or just a person with an opinion? I just made an example.I don't hate sony and I have Ps1 Ps2 Ps3 PsP. But let's face it: You know the reason why everyone here making all those Anti-Nintendo comments with no proof or source to their claims???? It's because the anger over Bayonetta 2 being announced for the Wii U. As if Bayonetta was the best game ever made.I never cared about bayonetta as a franchise despite liking the game. Bayonetta is just a feminine rip-off of Devil May Cry Now because of this everyone look for a Nintendo fan anywhere just to say F&*( you to him for no reason and start accuse him of being a fanboy What are you even talking about? Nobody said that about nintendo on this thread. You're the one making this a fanboy war. The Title and what hatok wrote without a proof,and you say no one said that. please try to read the other posts Edited November 21, 2012 by Metal Snake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted November 21, 2012 True, but still. Free internet. If you are okay with getting spammed with irrelevant ads, poor connections, difficulty playing with friends, and horrible security then free is fine. Personally I feel that the 5 dollars a month for Xbox Live is worth getting rid of or making these problems almost unnoticeable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snow 1,800 Posted November 21, 2012 I just made an example.I don't hate sony and I have Ps1 Ps2 Ps3 PsP. But let's face it: You know the reason why everyone here making all those Anti-Nintendo comments with no proof or source to their claims???? It's because the anger over Bayonetta 2 being announced for the Wii U. As if Bayonetta was the best game ever made.I never cared about bayonetta as a franchise despite liking the game. Now because of this everyone look for a Nintendo fan anywhere just to say F&*( you to him for no reason and start accuse him of being a fanboy The Title and what hatok wrote without a proof,and you say no one said that. please try to read the other posts No, I'm not going to call you a fanboy, a person with an opinion. There's a difference. We're not hating on Nintendo, just stating facts about them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darklunatic 81 Posted November 21, 2012 I just made an example.I don't hate sony and I have Ps1 Ps2 Ps3 PsP. But let's face it: You know the reason why everyone here making all those Anti-Nintendo comments with no proof or source to their claims???? It's because the anger over Bayonetta 2 being announced for the Wii U. As if Bayonetta was the best game ever made.I never cared about bayonetta as a franchise despite liking the game. Now because of this everyone look for a Nintendo fan anywhere just to say F&*( you to him for no reason and start accuse him of being a fanboy The Title and what hatok wrote without a proof,and you say no one said that. please try to read the other posts lol dude that thing with bayonetta i hate that game haha its just a rip off of dmc is how i see it so yeah not much hate or anger besides i don't buy new Nintendo counsels i stick with my nes and n64 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snow 1,800 Posted November 21, 2012 If you are okay with getting spammed with irrelevant ads, poor connections, difficulty playing with friends, and horrible security then free is fine. Personally I feel that the 5 dollars a month for Xbox Live is worth getting rid of or making these problems almost unnoticeable. Yeah, but I'm much too young to have a credit card to pay, and I've grown up with Sony my entire life. And I really haven't seen these ads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted November 21, 2012 I just made an example.I don't hate sony and I have Ps1 Ps2 Ps3 PsP. But let's face it: You know the reason why everyone here making all those Anti-Nintendo comments with no proof or source to their claims???? It's because the anger over Bayonetta 2 being announced for the Wii U. As if Bayonetta was the best game ever made.I never cared about bayonetta as a franchise despite liking the game. Now because of this everyone look for a Nintendo fan anywhere just to say F&*( you to him for no reason and start accuse him of being a fanboy The Title and what hatok wrote without a proof,and you say no one said that. please try to read the other posts I have. You are taking what hatok said the wrong way. He's not saying anything about fanboys. He is saying that nintendo isn't doing their best and people shouldn't settle for that. It wasn't a thread made for hatred. 4 axele, hatok, HarLea Quinn and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darklunatic 81 Posted November 21, 2012 If you are okay with getting spammed with irrelevant ads, poor connections, difficulty playing with friends, and horrible security then free is fine. Personally I feel that the 5 dollars a month for Xbox Live is worth getting rid of or making these problems almost unnoticeable. i dont see ads and my connection is great and screw the security that doesnt bother me much besides that ps1 was my first system that I OWNED by my self Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultima Weapon 71 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) So, my words of advice, don't give Nintendo a free ticket. Don't support something jsut ebcause it's Nintendo. They need to learn that they have to keep stepping up their game like they used to, rather than resting on its laurels Totally agree Boring Remakes, zero new games, and the Wii U is like a PS3 or XB360 but with an ipad for controler, and yeah nintendo isn't the only that is resting on its laurels *cough*square-enix*cough* but for being the company that has survived more time in the market I expected a lot more. Edited November 21, 2012 by Ultima Weapon 1 darklunatic reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted November 21, 2012 Any proof to all of what you say???? if there isn't I can say the same for either Sony or Microsoft I can say: Don't give Sony the chance and stop them from milking God of War with a needless prequel or stop Microsoft from creating crappy sequels for Fable. Man,gotta love claims with no proof while I agree that Nintendo of the past is better,that doesn't mean you can compare a high quality title like Zelda to Call of Duty???????? are you serious???? comparing this to Call of Duty of all games is just the usual anti-nintendo comments that filled the internet just because Bayonetta went to the Wii U Gotta love a fan boy who can`t defend their own opinion, so they bring completely unrelated things that nobody said into the mix in an attempt to delegitimize the other person`s statements. i didn't say anything about Sony or Microsoft. A company sucking doesn't mean the others are better. Sony Microsof and Nintendo are all terrible in their own special ways.But I will say this. There are four numbered god of War titles, as well as two PSP ones. Meanwhile, Sony has also launched Little Big Planet, inFAMOUS, and a bevy of other IPs that they continue to support. Microsoft is the company I'm least familiar with... but they never really had their own franchises in he first place. And it's downright fanboyish to say Cod and zelda can't be compared. Both are very well polished, but ridiculously formulaic franchises that refuse to grow up. Are you seriously going to deny that CoD is high quality? Have you played it? And what? Bayonetta? What does that have to do with anything? It's a good thing Nintendo saved it when nobody else would publish it. And Sony is not the God or the savior Fun Fact: Sony fans are the ones who comes and say F^&^* Wii U and when you do the same for their console they accuse you of being a fanboy I'm a Nintendo fan and I see that he has no proof yeah there were some lackluster titles like NSMB 2 and Wario World but accusing the entire company with all it's titles with no proof just to pretend being smart and anyone opposes the one who said that is a fanboy?????? Man. I don't get it.What roof do I need? I'm working on the assumption that people reading this are vaguely familiar with Nintendo.New Super Mario Bros has been the same game fr the past four entries. Less and less is tried with each passing Zelda game. And Miyamoto is to blame. Read his interviews. I really want Sega to get back in the competition, because they made Sonic. Who knows what other games they could make? Ristar?! http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png They had to do that since Rare was the company who made the Donkey Kong Country series, not Nintendo. Rare is with Microsoft now (Microsoft screwed the company) and many of those ideas can't be used since they own them. That's what though too, but I recently found out that Nintendo DOES own the Kremlings and K Rool and such, and that the original DK composer offered to make music but was turned down I never said Wii U is good or bad because I hadn't bought it yet. You can't judge the Wii U in just his first month of release. and I have to say a lot about the entire Anti-Nintendo things that started with Bayonetta 2.But I'll save that for later. but I'm gonna say: Will you be happy if I done THIS: Sony sucks and anyone who opposes me is a fanboy. I think you will like that huh???? God the internet just keeps getting more twisted Again with Bayonetta. Why do you think that is the source of all problems.And your statement is a silly generalization. There's no basis or reasoning. It's your opinion I guess, but try to put some thought or effort into it maybe? I mean, I get that you're trying to satirize what the 'fanboys' are saying, but honestly, you have the most blatant faboyism out of everyone here. I just made an example.I don't hate sony and I have Ps1 Ps2 Ps3 PsP. But let's face it: You know the reason why everyone here making all those Anti-Nintendo comments with no proof or source to their claims???? It's because the anger over Bayonetta 2 being announced for the Wii U. As if Bayonetta was the best game ever made.I never cared about bayonetta as a franchise despite liking the game. Bayonetta is just a feminine rip-off of Devil May Cry Now because of this everyone look for a Nintendo fan anywhere just to say F&*( you to him for no reason and start accuse him of being a fanboy The Title and what hatok wrote without a proof,and you say no one said that. please try to read the other posts Again with bayonetta. what are you going on about?And again about proof. If this stuff is really that hard for you to wrap your head around, look it up. Why are you talking like anybody who points out the valid flaws in Nintendo is an angry fanboy who loves Sony and Microsoft and has something against Bayonetta (Again, what?) 3 Xail, darklunatic and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darklunatic 81 Posted November 21, 2012 Gotta love a fan boy who can`t defend their own opinion, so they bring completely unrelated things that nobody said into the mix in an attempt to delegitimize the other person`s statements. i didn't say anything about Sony or Microsoft. A company sucking doesn't mean the others are better. Sony Microsof and Nintendo are all terrible in their own special ways. But I will say this. There are four numbered god of War titles, as well as two PSP ones. Meanwhile, Sony has also launched Little Big Planet, inFAMOUS, and a bevy of other IPs that they continue to support. Microsoft is the company I'm least familiar with... but they never really had their own franchises in he first place. And it's downright fanboyish to say Cod and zelda can't be compared. Both are very well polished, but ridiculously formulaic franchises that refuse to grow up. Are you seriously going to deny that CoD is high quality? Have you played it? And what? Bayonetta? What does that have to do with anything? It's a good thing Nintendo saved it when nobody else would publish it. I don't get it.What roof do I need? I'm working on the assumption that people reading this are vaguely familiar with Nintendo. New Super Mario Bros has been the same game fr the past four entries. Less and less is tried with each passing Zelda game. And Miyamoto is to blame. Read his interviews. Ristar?! http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png That's what though too, but I recently found out that Nintendo DOES own the Kremlings and K Rool and such, and that the original DK composer offered to make music but was turned down Again with Bayonetta. Why do you think that is the source of all problems. And your statement is a silly generalization. There's no basis or reasoning. It's your opinion I guess, but try to put some thought or effort into it maybe? I mean, I get that you're trying to satirize what the 'fanboys' are saying, but honestly, you have the most blatant faboyism out of everyone here. Again with bayonetta. what are you going on about? And again about proof. If this stuff is really that hard for you to wrap your head around, look it up. Why are you talking like anybody who points out the valid flaws in Nintendo is an angry fanboy who loves Sony and Microsoft and has something against Bayonetta (Again, what?) thats what im trying to figure out what does bayonetta have to do with this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xail 113 Posted November 21, 2012 Nintendo could release more 3rd party games for their consoles that would kind of fix the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirux 1,224 Posted November 21, 2012 Looking over their fairly recent history... so many games have been forcibly regressed by Shigeru Moyamoto. A recent example is his attack on Paper Mario, forbidding them from using any original characters, and essentially destroying the great plots of previous Paper Mario games. He did something similar with Donkey Kong Country Returns, forbidding the use of classic enemies, while simultaneously forbidding the use of any original music. There are many interviews talking about him flipping the proverbial table when people suggest changing the formula of Zelda or Mario, which leads to the bland, soul-less creations we see nowadays. The man is actively working to keep story out of video games, keep game design philosophy in the 80's, and just overall stop anybody but him from trying something new. but it's not just Shigeru. Nintendo as a whole just makes some mind boggling stupid choices, as evidenced by the Wii U which, while technically superior in some ways, has many parts that are drastically inferior to its competition from six years ago. Nintendo constantly professes that it 'has no competition' showing a huge ego and given them a free ticket to make no attempt to keep up with competition. Also as far as they're concerned, there is no room to improve on what they have (As they don't need to worry about competition, as they have none) so they simply stagnate, selling the same well designed, but functionally identical, game on a yearly basis. This is the thing that Call of Duty gets flak for all of the time, yet Nintendo has brazenly been doing this with multiple franchises for years. So, my words of advice, don't give Nintendo a free ticket. Don't support something jsut ebcause it's Nintendo. They need to learn that they have to keep stepping up their game like they used to, rather than resting on its laurels Firstly; jhfgbuycgtfwrgyfwienrfy babies, Secondly: "There are many interviews talking about him flipping the proverbial table when people suggest changing the formula of Zelda or Mario, which leads to the bland, soul-less creations we see nowadays." I could not agree with this statement any harder. I was SO excited for Skyward Sword but I've never even finished it. It didn't carry my attention. I've never left a Zelda game unfinished in the past, and usuall enjoy replaying them 2, 3 ,4 or more times. Thirdly; They Wii U doesn't seem all that great to me, and they technical issues it seems to be having based on reviews make me want to wait even longer. Then again, I'm still trying to figure out why we can't just keep using the Gamecube. Fourthly: That last statement makes me feel like such an old lady. Imma go cry now. 2 Shera Wizard and Ultima Weapon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozombie 4,554 Posted November 21, 2012 The only Nintendo games I've really played were the NES/SNES era ones, long before these criticisms really applied. The only franchise I keep up with is Pokemon, which is definitely the same thing over and over again. I still keep up with it because even if I've been playing the same game, at least it's fun and the system becomes more and more refined as the generations go on. I'm gonna piss a lot of people off by saying that I prefer Gen IV and V over Gen 1 and 2 because, c'mon, if the Pokemon games are the exact same thing except dressed a bit differently, yet more and more polished, why would I go back to the early generations with clunky interface and an unbalanced battle system? I think that's probably the reason Nintendo was allowed to get away with what it's been doing for so long, because their games are fun and so they feel no need to change the formula. I'll give them props for shaking the Pokemon formula up a bit with Black and White, but it's still ultimately the same as the previous games. Doesn't mean it's any less fun for me, but like I said, I'm easy to please as a gamer. Call me a sheep if you wish, since it's probably true. 1 FireRubies1 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmegaForte 1,674 Posted November 25, 2012 The only Nintendo games I've really played were the NES/SNES era ones, long before these criticisms really applied. The only franchise I keep up with is Pokemon, which is definitely the same thing over and over again. I still keep up with it because even if I've been playing the same game, at least it's fun and the system becomes more and more refined as the generations go on. I'm gonna piss a lot of people off by saying that I prefer Gen IV and V over Gen 1 and 2 because, c'mon, if the Pokemon games are the exact same thing except dressed a bit differently, yet more and more polished, why would I go back to the early generations with clunky interface and an unbalanced battle system? I think that's probably the reason Nintendo was allowed to get away with what it's been doing for so long, because their games are fun and so they feel no need to change the formula. I'll give them props for shaking the Pokemon formula up a bit with Black and White, but it's still ultimately the same as the previous games. Doesn't mean it's any less fun for me, but like I said, I'm easy to please as a gamer. Call me a sheep if you wish, since it's probably true. Yes! I totally agree with this. I hate those nostalgia fans who can't move on and whine like a bunch of babies on YouTube. I also agree on the thread maker. Especially on the Paper Mario aspect. (Which is part why I didn't like SPM) Well at least the 3DS game looks promising, but the no partners goes back to what you said. Oh Nintendo, like I always say: "One step forward, two steps back." 1 Snow reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 1,200 Posted November 30, 2012 Looking over their fairly recent history... so many games have been forcibly regressed by Shigeru Moyamoto.A recent example is his attack on Paper Mario, forbidding them from using any original characters, and essentially destroying the great plots of previous Paper Mario games. Yeah, I am really disappointed about what they did with Paper Mario. When I saw Paper Mario 3DS first get announced, I was instantly hyped, but then I started to get worried as more info was revealed, and the game ultimately ended up killing Paper Mario for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted November 30, 2012 Yes! I totally agree with this. I hate those nostalgia fans who can't move on and whine like a bunch of babies on YouTube.I also agree on the thread maker. Especially on the Paper Mario aspect. (Which is part why I didn't like SPM) Well at least the 3DS game looks promising, but the no partners goes back to what you said. Oh Nintendo, like I always say: "One step forward, two steps back." Super Paper Mario runs circles around the 3DS game 3 Snow, FireRubies1 and Blake reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 776 Posted November 30, 2012 I do agree with you, to a point. Simply saying The big 10 isn't doing they're best is remotely true, looking at Sticker Star, it really is only considered "PAPER", because of the art style and combat, SPM was more like it (you can call me bias, I OBVIOUSLY love spm). But look at the Wii's launch, 3rd party shit, and a "remaking" Twilight princess. The only new thing was Wii Sports, which CAME with the system. NSMBU is clearly a re-hash, BUT nintendo is trying at least, taking from Super Mario World did make the overworld and how the game progressed at least different from the past (NSMB2 is different, more gimmicky and I hate that word too '-') From the rant you can take this away: - The WiiU is still new, I have a feeling that Nintendo is coming to come out with some crazy shit this coming E3. - People do expect more out of Nintendo, since they DID revolutionize gaming as know it, but do they even know what we want? new shit, or old shit, the idiots on the internet have been feuding this since the existence of the internet. - Implying they don't produce quality games is just stupid, they put time that all dev's do, Sticker Star, I think, is a mal-product of people bitching about spm. Aren't my thought coherent? What did I even write? I dunno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axele 151 Posted December 1, 2012 Nintendo used to be a pretty good gaming company and used to make excellent consoles. Zelda, Metorid, Donkey Kong and others. They were all new and fresh and surprising. However Nintendo seems to just rely on those popular titles and just recycles them. I would love to see a StarFox N64- 2 and a Conker's Bad Fur Day 2. Make some new games that are not aiming towards the casual gamers. Real gamers don't wait Wii U Fit. They want Zelda in a new adventure. 1 FireRubies1 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted December 1, 2012 Conker's Bad Fur Day 2. Nintendo has nothing to do with that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shera Wizard 2,736 Posted December 1, 2012 I'm just Pokemon is Nintendo. O.O End of my story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted December 1, 2012 I'm just Pokemon is Nintendo. O.O End of my story. Pokemon is Gamefreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites