Guest Posted August 4, 2013 It can't be an anime because it's not from Japan. And even if Monty says that it is, it isn't. It's like Avatar the Last Airbender and the Legend of Korra; they used the same style as an anime but it was created in the western hemisphere, which means it can't be an "official" anime. Technically, you could consider ATLAB Korra, and this American Anime, which is heavily influenced by the Japanese counterpart, but has it's own touches. Also, the creator can say it's whatever genré he wants, we may not agree, but it's a web series that we technically are not part of. He can do whatever the frig he wants with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Same goes for anime. It's a type of animation of Japanese origin, but isn't limited to just Japan. How come only Japan can make "official" anime? But it's in the definition itself. As in it literally says Japanese and Japanese only.... Technically, you could consider ATLAB Korra, and this American Anime, which is heavily influenced by the Japanese counterpart, but has it's own touches. Also, the creator can say it's whatever genré he wants, we may not agree, but it's a web series that we technically are not part of. He can do whatever the frig he wants with it. True. Monty Oum can claim it to be whatever he wants, but if he doesn't rightfully claim it something, he just becomes an ignorant prick. It doesn't matter how similar the ATLA series and RWBY are to anime, the fact is, they aren't considered as anime. They probably never will be, but it isn't like it matters. They're still great animation, why are we arguing over semantics when it's just a small thing. I mean come on, we're arguing over where it should be placed, why place something into a specific genre just to classify it as something? It's stupid. I don't consider ATLA, RWBY, Teen Titans, or even YJ (Young Justice which is drawn by Koreans) as anime/manga/manhwa or anything of the sort. I feel they deserve their own classification. They practically took the best of both worlds and made it their own. You can call them anime/cartoon version 2, but I don't like that at all. They're carving the way to a new generation and that's why I'll call them the future of animation. Edited August 4, 2013 by Prince Sky Heart 2 Xiro and unLock reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mysterious Figure 353 Posted August 4, 2013 Not the anime argument again Who cares if its an anime or not!? The show is awesome either way 1 unLock reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang 1,859 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) let's just go back to posting gifs and theories and stop arguing over if it's an anime or not If you think if it's an anime, good for you. If you don't think it is, good for you, too. Edit: goddammit monty Edited August 4, 2013 by Yang 5 Skai, unLock, CloakedSchemerX and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted August 4, 2013 Dammit Monty. DO THAT WITH YANG! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted August 4, 2013 Yikes, who knew that the Anime tag would cause so much discussion. (For the record, I wasn't the one who put it there.) Anyway, I was bored the other day, so I finally decided to watch this. Not bad, the story seems interesting and the actions scenes from the trailers were great. The voice acting isn't horrible. The animation itself has me torn, I don't really care for how all the background characters are blacked out. But on the flip side, I love how it sometimes switches over to a 2D chibi animation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang 1,859 Posted August 4, 2013 Dammit Monty. DO THAT WITH YANG! . . . Why would I wear a bunny onesie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 4, 2013 . . . Why would I wear a bunny onesie?Oathy means he wants you in a smexy bikini with the dino pulling your bottoms down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 4, 2013 . . . Why would I wear a bunny onesie? I think Oath wants to see some ass eating! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted August 4, 2013 Oathy means he wants you in a smexy bikini with the dino pulling your bottoms down.Guilty as charged.....please don't hurt me Yang q.q Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang 1,859 Posted August 4, 2013 Oathy means he wants you in a smexy bikini with the dino pulling your bottoms down.Oh. Guilty as charged.....please don't hurt me Yang q.qHeh, it's okay. I'd rather wear THAT then Vomit Boy's jammies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shulk 8,623 Posted August 5, 2013 Hey guys, let's just call it an Anitoon. Or a Carnime. That way there aren't any arguments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 776 Posted August 5, 2013 Hey guys, let's just call it an Anitoon. Or a Carnime. That way there aren't any arguments. Or we can call it "a thing" and shut the hell up about it forever? 1 unLock reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 5, 2013 Hey guys, let's just call it an Anitoon. Or a Carnime. That way there aren't any arguments. Or we can call it "a thing" and shut the hell up about it forever? The argument already died out o-o How about we call it RWBY and call it a day? 1 unLock reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shulk 8,623 Posted August 5, 2013 The argument already died out o-o How about we call it RWBY and call it a day? I know, I was late, but still felt the need to say that. That works too... I still like Anitoon though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Okay, I've been watching the trailers over again and I have a couple thoughts and questions. Let's see if anyone has any answers to them. 1. When do these trailers actually happen? At first I thought they all happened before the first episode of RWBY, but going back to it, it wouldn't make sense for all of them to happen before RWBY. "Red" Trailer shows a much more different Ruby. She seems more mature and battle capable than what the first episode showed us. Also, she did not get hurt once, which could imply that she has had proper training more than what was shown in episode 1. Not to mention, why would she be in the middle of the forest and why was she in front of a stone with a rose? "White" Trailer shows the origin on Weiss' scar, but when she sings, it seems to be somewhere in the future. She performs in front of a crowd, I think and Red Like Roses tells us that she will be put to a royal test, is this the royal test? If so, does that mean it has yet to happen or did it happen already? "Black" Trailer is really confusing. She is with her teacher, Adam. Is he a personal teacher or a teacher in Beacon. If he's a personal teacher, I would be inclined to say her trailer happened before RWBY episode 1, because as I said earlier in one of my posts, I believe Blake was going to Beacon in this trailer and she couldn't take Adam because he might be part creature of grim. Now if he IS a Beacon teacher, I can see this happening in the future, where they are doing a mission or perhaps they left the academy. "Yellow" Trailer. Yang looks for someone and it seems to be her mission, but when was she given this mission? Was it during her time in a different school, maybe the same as Ruby in Signal or during Beacon when her sister had yet to join it? She is also pretty skilled enough by herself to take out a whole club, (like Goldilock going into the bear's house, not to mention there's a bear hatted person in her trailer) and defeat this Junior person. Also, Ruby appears at the end, maybe showing that they are all looking for a girl for their mission and their team has been formed here. 2. I'd also like to point out the different moons shown in all the trailers. Are these small cues telling us that the trailers happened in different times or were they just artistic choices? I honestly think it would be the former, why you ask? Ruby's trailer shows a full moon. Weiss' trailer shows a moon with a small part "bitten" out on the right. Blake's trailer shows a little more shattered moon. Yang's trailer has the most broken moon. Also, two moons in Yang's Trailer. What can this mean? EDIT: Bleh okay, one is a moon and the other is a sun, I get it.... What exactly is that telling us?3. Weiss' trailer really shows how lonely she is. Goes back to the whole time issue, but refer to number 1 for that. How lonely is she? Well there are many things that she only did in her trailer that no one else did for theirs. She is the only person in the whole trailer, besides one enemy. The crowd she performs to is sort of blacked out, so you can't really even tell if that is a crowd or not. Her enemy is the only one to disappear not in rose petals, but ice? some sort of dust? She is the only one to use a dust/non-gun weapon. She is the only one to "sing" in her trailer. Her song. 4. Brings me to this question. Is Monty Oum pulling a Nomura on us? Are the trailers even canon to begin with or were they just promotional nonsense? Many things about the trailers don't match up with the story. Weiss' scar is the only thing I can pick up so far to have happened somewhere in the timeline and surely say it happened before. 5. Analyzing the opening. In the beginning of the "Red" Trailer, Ruby kneels before a grave? or at least a stone with a rose on it. In the opening, it is shown that someone, wearing a hoodie-cloak-cape is floating in front of her, but wearing white. Could this person be Weiss? I know you can't assume just because she is wearing white, but there are also other evidence. In Weiss' trailer, her enemy disappears in ice or something not petals, as I said before. In the opening the mysterious person's cape flows in the wind also producing the same material, while red's shows red petals. What do you think? So ya, thoughts? Edited August 6, 2013 by Prince Sky Heart 1 Yang reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 Okay, I've been watching the trailers over again and I have a couple thoughts and questions. Let's see if anyone has any answers to them. 1. When do these trailers actually happen? At first I thought they all happened before the first episode of RWBY, but going back to it, it wouldn't make sense for all of them to happen before RWBY. "Red" Trailer shows a much more different Ruby. She seems more mature and battle capable than what the first episode showed us. Also, she did not get hurt once, which could imply that she has had proper training more than what was shown in episode 1. Not to mention, why would she be in the middle of the forest and why was she in front of a stone with a rose? "White" Trailer shows the origin on Weiss' scar, but when she sings, it seems to be somewhere in the future. She performs in front of a crowd, I think and Red Like Roses tells us that she will be put to a royal test, is this the royal test? If so, does that mean it has yet to happen or did it happen already? "Black" Trailer is really confusing. She is with her teacher, Adam. Is he a personal teacher or a teacher in Beacon. If he's a personal teacher, I would be inclined to say her trailer happened before RWBY episode 1, because as I said earlier in one of my posts, I believe Blake was going to Beacon in this trailer and she couldn't take Adam because he might be part creature of grim. Now if he IS a Beacon teacher, I can see this happening in the future, where they are doing a mission or perhaps they left the academy. "Yellow" Trailer. Yang looks for someone and it seems to be her mission, but when was she given this mission? Was it during her time in a different school, maybe the same as Ruby in Signal or during Beacon when her sister had yet to join it? She is also pretty skilled enough by herself to take out a whole club, (like Goldilock going into the bear's house, not to mention there's a bear hatted person in her trailer) and defeat this Junior person. Also, Ruby appears at the end, maybe showing that they are all looking for a girl for their mission and their team has been formed here. 2. I'd also like to point out the different moons shown in all the trailers. Are these small cues telling us that the trailers happened in different times or were they just artistic choices? I honestly think it would be the former, why you ask? Ruby's trailer shows a full moon. Weiss' trailer shows a moon with a small part "bitten" out on the right. Blake's trailer shows a little more shattered moon. Yang's trailer has the most broken moon. What exactly is that telling us? 3. Weiss' trailer really shows how lonely she is. Goes back to the whole time issue, but refer to number 1 for that. How lonely is she? Well there are many things that she only did in her trailer that no one else did for theirs. She is the only person in the whole trailer, besides one enemy. The crowd she performs to is sort of blacked out, so you can't really even tell if that is a crowd or not. Her enemy is the only one to disappear not in rose petals, but ice? some sort of dust? She is the only one to use a dust/non-gun weapon. She is the only one to "sing" in her trailer. Her song. 4. Brings me to this question. Is Monty Oum pulling a Nomura on us? Are the trailers even canon to begin with or were they just promotional nonsense? Many things about the trailers don't match up with the story. Weiss' scar is the only thing I can pick up so far to have happened somewhere in the timeline and surely say it happened before. 5. Analyzing the opening. In the beginning of the "Red" Trailer, Ruby kneels before a grave? or at least a stone with a rose on it. In the opening, it is shown that someone, wearing a hoodie-cloak-cape is floating in front of her, but wearing white. Could this person be Weiss? I know you can't assume just because she is wearing white, but there are also other evidence. In Weiss' trailer, her enemy disappears in ice or something not petals, as I said before. In the opening the mysterious person's cape flows in the wind also producing the same material, while red's shows red petals. What do you think? So ya, thoughts? On Number 5, I'm betting most of my cookies that it's her Uncle Crow/shotforpuns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted August 6, 2013 On Number 5, I'm betting most of my cookies that it's her Uncle Crow/shotforpuns I'm putting my cookies on Summer Rose. If you look carefully, the phrase "Summer Rose/ Thus Kindly I scatter" is written like this: SUMMER ROSE THUS KINDLY I SCATTER Thus. Summer Rose = Name Thus Kindly = Epitaph. The white cloak is Summer Rose. I bet a box of Thin Mints. 1 Ruby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) I'm putting my cookies on Summer Rose.If you look carefully, the phrase "Summer Rose/ Thus Kindly I scatter" is written like this:SUMMER ROSETHUS KINDLY I SCATTERThus.Summer Rose = NameThus Kindly = Epitaph.The white cloak is Summer Rose. I bet a box of Thin Mints.But whom is this "summer rose" by chance? I don't recall someone named Epitaph. Besides, a summer rose wouldn't be white, more likely yellow, or pink, you know... Summery colors? Edited August 6, 2013 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mysterious Figure 353 Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Okay, I've been watching the trailers over again and I have a couple thoughts and questions. Let's see if anyone has any answers to them. 1. When do these trailers actually happen? At first I thought they all happened before the first episode of RWBY, but going back to it, it wouldn't make sense for all of them to happen before RWBY. "Red" Trailer shows a much more different Ruby. She seems more mature and battle capable than what the first episode showed us. Also, she did not get hurt once, which could imply that she has had proper training more than what was shown in episode 1. Not to mention, why would she be in the middle of the forest and why was she in front of a stone with a rose? "White" Trailer shows the origin on Weiss' scar, but when she sings, it seems to be somewhere in the future. She performs in front of a crowd, I think and Red Like Roses tells us that she will be put to a royal test, is this the royal test? If so, does that mean it has yet to happen or did it happen already? "Black" Trailer is really confusing. She is with her teacher, Adam. Is he a personal teacher or a teacher in Beacon. If he's a personal teacher, I would be inclined to say her trailer happened before RWBY episode 1, because as I said earlier in one of my posts, I believe Blake was going to Beacon in this trailer and she couldn't take Adam because he might be part creature of grim. Now if he IS a Beacon teacher, I can see this happening in the future, where they are doing a mission or perhaps they left the academy. "Yellow" Trailer. Yang looks for someone and it seems to be her mission, but when was she given this mission? Was it during her time in a different school, maybe the same as Ruby in Signal or during Beacon when her sister had yet to join it? She is also pretty skilled enough by herself to take out a whole club, (like Goldilock going into the bear's house, not to mention there's a bear hatted person in her trailer) and defeat this Junior person. Also, Ruby appears at the end, maybe showing that they are all looking for a girl for their mission and their team has been formed here. 2. I'd also like to point out the different moons shown in all the trailers. Are these small cues telling us that the trailers happened in different times or were they just artistic choices? I honestly think it would be the former, why you ask? Ruby's trailer shows a full moon. Weiss' trailer shows a moon with a small part "bitten" out on the right. Blake's trailer shows a little more shattered moon. Yang's trailer has the most broken moon. Also, two moons in Yang's Trailer. What can this mean? What exactly is that telling us? 3. Weiss' trailer really shows how lonely she is. Goes back to the whole time issue, but refer to number 1 for that. How lonely is she? Well there are many things that she only did in her trailer that no one else did for theirs. She is the only person in the whole trailer, besides one enemy. The crowd she performs to is sort of blacked out, so you can't really even tell if that is a crowd or not. Her enemy is the only one to disappear not in rose petals, but ice? some sort of dust? She is the only one to use a dust/non-gun weapon. She is the only one to "sing" in her trailer. Her song. 4. Brings me to this question. Is Monty Oum pulling a Nomura on us? Are the trailers even canon to begin with or were they just promotional nonsense? Many things about the trailers don't match up with the story. Weiss' scar is the only thing I can pick up so far to have happened somewhere in the timeline and surely say it happened before. 5. Analyzing the opening. In the beginning of the "Red" Trailer, Ruby kneels before a grave? or at least a stone with a rose on it. In the opening, it is shown that someone, wearing a hoodie-cloak-cape is floating in front of her, but wearing white. Could this person be Weiss? I know you can't assume just because she is wearing white, but there are also other evidence. In Weiss' trailer, her enemy disappears in ice or something not petals, as I said before. In the opening the mysterious person's cape flows in the wind also producing the same material, while red's shows red petals. What do you think? So ya, thoughts? 1. I think all the trailers take place before the show, except for maybe Yang unless she's looking for whoever for personal reasons The Red trailer was the first pitch for the show so it makes sense Ruby had barely any personality they possibly may not have come up with one for her by then. The grave on the other hand I think is her Uncle Crow's. If it is then it makes sense that she fights so well, he taught her after all. With the Black Trailer I think Blake was apart of some group (maybe the White Fang) and Adam was her teacher (or some kinda student/teacher relationship). The news in episode 1 said they were getting more extreme, seems like Blake no longer wanted to be part of it for that reason. 2. Why does everyone think there are 2 moons in the Yellow trailer? Haven't you people ever heard of the Sun? That's all the opinion I have to share Edited August 6, 2013 by Mysterious Figure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted August 6, 2013 But whom is this "summer rose" by chance? I don't recall someone named Epitaph. Besides, a summer rose wouldn't be white, more likely yellow, or pink, you know... Summery colors?Older sister, Crow's deceased wife, we don't know.And wtf? Epitaph isn't a name. An epitaph is a saying or phrase on a tombstone. 90% of the time, an epitaph isnplaced after the name of the deceased, if one is ever placed.And In conclusion: Anime doesn't have to conform to the idea that your cloak has to match your name. 1 Ruby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Older sister, Crow's deceased wife, we don't know.And wtf? Epitaph isn't a name. An epitaph is a saying or phrase on a tombstone. 90% of the time, an epitaph isnplaced after the name of the deceased, if one is ever placed.And In conclusion: Anime doesn't have to conform to the idea that your cloak has to match your name.Soooooo.... Crow had a wife? A random wife that Ruby more likely didn't know, likely, if any case. And a random sister that just... Died? It dosen't sound right.And excuse me for forgetting a word's meaning. I hadn't seen that word used in years.But, technically, this isn't anime, even if we consider it so. Plus, since this show is based around colors mainly on the teams, and "Summer Rose" isn't actually addressing anyone to our knowledge, it just seems your jumpping to too many conclusions on a character we have no proof if exist yet or not. We know of her uncle, Crow, but of no sister or wife.I'm thinking that it's Crow due to he is an introduced character, not someone we theories exists. Edited August 6, 2013 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted August 6, 2013 We don't know everything, Never. I merely presented theory basein what we have seen. Because Crow up and dying seems...weird. 1 Ruby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 We don't know everything, Never.I merely presented theory basein what we have seen.Because Crow up and dying seems...weird.True. I'm just going off of the fact he exist, we have seen white crows in media before, and the Crow made its first appearance in "Red". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted August 6, 2013 True. I'm just going off of the fact he exist, we have seen white crows in media before, and the Crow made its first appearance in "Red".Ruby said Crow is an instructor at Signal.I doubt he's gonna up and die.Plus, the white'cloaked person in the opening was female. Otherwise monty would have made a more male figure instead of j ust copying Ruby over and recoloring her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites