KH3D How come kh 3d is so much more inferior to brith by sleep?

[Nafees Rahman 35]

I mean birth by sleep has more worlds and the attacks are flashier and you have more secret bosses and cut scenes and everything is smoother but the 3ds itself is more powerful then the psp and almost as much as the ps vita is it that the Kh team dint try as much with Dream Drop Distance? ( Scott pilgrim FTW)

[Joker 1,560]

it was really good.the only thing i didnt like was no melding commands.i know making random DE kinda repalced tht but still.....

[FireRubies1 1,325]

Well KH3D wasn't as important so they probably didn't want to make it super impressive. And maybe the concepts they had didn't leave room for flashy-ness.

[MrSanderss 80]

The world in BBS are small and lacking, and I dont know what you're talking about with the flashiness. BBS didn't have many secret bosses either. I do agree that BBS is smoother for the most part. The frame rate in 3D drops almost constantly.

[Caity 3,946]

3D was more about testing new abilities/mechanics (like flow drive) and just bridging the story to KH3.

BBS was basically a fresh start to do what the hell they wanted (with new characters with their own story never really discussed before in other games) so things like shotlock, command melding, new attacks were all added. BBS shouldn't be compared to 3D, it should be with KH1 and KH2 (Nomura himself counts it as KH 0)

Also, BBS came out first, and a number of people complained it was too overbalanced making the player to strong that there was no real challenge, so this was reduced in 3D.

[Sakuraba Neku 660]

Birth by Sleep plot completely owns DDD one

 

But dont think theres a big gap between both.

[KH2FFMM 22]

I mean birth by sleep has more worlds and the attacks are flashier and you have more secret bosses and cut scenes and everything is smoother but the 3ds itself is more powerful then the psp and almost as much as the ps vita is it that the Kh team dint try as much with Dream Drop Distance? ( Scott pilgrim FTW)

 

The KH team did not make KH3D, the Osaka team made the game.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Well Nomura did say this game was rushed which explains some of its issues like glitches and such. However some might argue that the game being 'inferior ' is subjective considering some prefer DDD over BBS .

[Ruran 481]

I don't have hands on experience with 3D yet but this is something that worried me long before 3D was released: it had the shortest production time of all the KH games. BbS was in the works for approximately 4-5 years before it was released and if you go back and look at old interviews, screen shots, and trailers you can see that it changed considerably much more over time than 3D which was completed in a little more than a year. It was rushed and not as polished as some other KH games.

[Nafees Rahman 35]

I don't have hands on experience with 3D yet but this is something that worried me long before 3D was released: it had the shortest production time of all the KH games. BbS was in the works for approximately 4-5 years before it was released and if you go back and look at old interviews, screen shots, and trailers you can see that it changed considerably much more over time than 3D which was completed in a little more than a year. It was rushed and not as polished as some other KH games.

 

yeah that preeeeeeeeeeeeetty much bothered me a few delays wouldnt be horrible for the fans..

 

Hopefully however the final mix version will be much better and well theres ALWAYS a final mix version they have to fill the gap somehow for kh 3 maybe online flick rush and oblivion and oath keeper keyblades.. I miss those ;A;

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

Personally, I think it's better because the plot was more compact and flowed better. Every point in BBS seemed relevant, the way the characters interacted with the world helped shed the light on who they were. It was a game with all new characters, and it had that as an advantage.

 

DDDs on the other hand only occasionally seemed to have much of a connection between its worlds and its plot. It did best in Tron, because that entire world was Sora dealing with someone he knew about being classified as not having a heart. Then it reminded us about Nobodies. It all wrked. Meanwhile places like Symphony of Sorcery sort of brushed on the idea of Nightmare preventing you from waking up, and then figured they were done.

[FireRubies1 1,325]

yeah that preeeeeeeeeeeeetty much bothered me a few delays wouldnt be horrible for the fans..

 

Hopefully however the final mix version will be much better and well theres ALWAYS a final mix version they have to fill the gap somehow for kh 3 maybe online flick rush and oblivion and oath keeper keyblades.. I miss those ;A;

 

They only final mix the main titles

like BBS is KH 0

and they did KH1 and KH2.

Games like COded, 358 and DDD aren't the main games

[OkashiraKenrex 251]

I blame it on FF,like always they give leftovers to kh and there usually half out of there mind.

[Obi-wan 411]

BBS was in production much longer than KH3D. I think that's what makes the huge difference between the two. They had the time to come up with abilities, more storyline, adjust said storyline, make additional little things for characters, shotlocks (Ultima Cannon is the best), and other extra things. KH3D did have things that made it stand out on it's like the connections of all these said characters to the point you'd probably get a headache. BBS you had to beat everything to bring it into one and find al of those damn Xehanort Reports. I want to see the reports again.

[Sakuraba Neku 660]

I don't have hands on experience with 3D yet but this is something that worried me long before 3D was released: it had the shortest production time of all the KH games. BbS was in the works for approximately 4-5 years before it was released and if you go back and look at old interviews, screen shots, and trailers you can see that it changed considerably much more over time than 3D which was completed in a little more than a year. It was rushed and not as polished as some other KH games.

 

Personally, i dont think 3D is that bad. its no the best of the series but it was a good preparation for KH3 because KH 3 gameplay is connected to this one *wishes for flowmotion*.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Dude this is an opinion.You think BBS is better than KH3D Ok that;s your opinion

 

I honestly love KH3D more than BBS ,in fact BBS is my least favorite KH game because of it's easy boss fights even on harder difficulty and also the repetition.

 

Also.BBS is a prequel and KH3D is a sequel so you have no way to say KH3D is not important because it has sooo many plot points and some crucial information

 

You can't say in the future that KH 3 is less important than BBS or say that no game in ther series is important only BBS is important and that's stupid.

 

You like BBS more that's good but don't say other games in the series are not important

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

There was something that felt really... soulless about DDD.

 

Like, the other games seemed to have their own liveliness, even CoM which I thought was insanely boring. DDD just felt like I was following a quest marker, I never felt like I had any reason to do what I was supposed to do. Just "'cause".

[Dio Brando 5,810]

There was something that felt really... soulless about DDD.

 

Like, the other games seemed to have their own liveliness, even CoM which I thought was insanely boring. DDD just felt like I was following a quest marker, I never felt like I had any reason to do what I was supposed to do. Just "'cause".

 

Well it still full of soul to me unlike the really soulless BBS that has easier boss battles and less interacion with Disney characers

 

 

Oh wait I know why.Because it's on a Nintendo console and pseudo-hardcores think that Nintendo fans are not Hardcore

Edited October 20, 2012 by Metal Snake

[Kirux 1,224]

Well Nomura did say this game was rushed which explains some of its issues like glitches and such. However some might argue that the game being 'inferior ' is subjective considering some prefer DDD over BBS .

 

As Lea said; it's subjective to the person. I personally like Dream Drop a whole lot more than BBS. Then again, I don't believe in the concept of prioritizing and rating KH games. Some aren't as strong of a title as the others but they all weave together to make an incredibly intricate and deep story.

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

Well it still full of soul to me unlike the really soulless BBS that has easier boss battles and less interacion with Disney characers

 

I kinda agree. I thought the ending of BBS was epic and I was really into it, but pretty much the whole game before that felt like work.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I kinda agree. I thought the ending of BBS was epic and I was really into it, but pretty much the whole game before that felt like work.

 

Well the ending of BBS wasn't affective for me as much as KH3D since KH3D has a lot of stuff going on in the last world...though I like Terra's ending despite being so sad.Terra is my favorite BBS character and he was horribly misunderstood by Stupid Eraqus the master of retards....even Aqua who obeyed her master questioned his orders.Gotta hate that light-whore

Edited October 20, 2012 by Metal Snake

[Sakuraba Neku 660]

Dude this is an opinion.You think BBS is better than KH3D Ok that;s your opinion

 

I honestly love KH3D more than BBS ,in fact BBS is my least favorite KH game because of it's easy boss fights even on harder difficulty and also the repetition.

 

Also.BBS is a prequel and KH3D is a sequel so you have no way to say KH3D is not important because it has sooo many plot points and some crucial information

 

You can't say in the future that KH 3 is less important than BBS or say that no game in ther series is important only BBS is important and that's stupid.

 

You like BBS more that's good but don't say other games in the series are not important

 

your reply was for who?

[Axtwyt 500]

birth by sleep has more worlds and the attacks are flashier and you have more secret bosses and cut scenes and everything is smoother

 

You just named off most of the reasons. Also, GOOD multiplayer and command melding. Also, we at least get to team up with Disney characters.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

Well the ending of BBS wasn't affective for me as much as KH3D since KH3D has a lot of stuff going on in the last world...though I like Terra's ending despite being so sad.Terra is my favorite BBS character and he was horribly misunderstood by Stupid Eraqus the master of retards....even Aqua who obeyed her master questioned his orders.Gotta hate that light-whore

 

First, it's effective. It didn't cause a reaction, it wasn't effective.

And personally, I'd agree with your statement that DDD had more going on in the last world than BBS, but that seems more because they didn't pace the game as well. I understand that Sora wasn't far enough in sleep to have the weird stuff going on until the last world, but it just felt like an exposition dump, at the end of the game..I didn't fight my way through 7 worlds so Xehanort could walk around telling Sora how dumb he is. BBS however had the final world a culmination. I had fought through all those worlds trying to stop unversed and defeat Vanitas & Xehanort. The final world tossed some plot at me, but mostly it was like most of the other games, I have a goal for most of the game, and the final goal is me achieving that. DDD gave me a goal, unlock 7 Keyholes and become a Keyblade Master. But I get to the final world and discover that, Wait, that's not my goal, let me give you an in-depth explanation of everything and change your goal. Sora, you need to stop Xehanort! Oh, your done? Well I guess that's it. Riku, you've actually been protecting Sora, so you've been working towards that goal the entire time, now continue. So Riku's story is (in my own opinion) better at the end.

 

Let me say I don't like Eraqus overly much. But he's not a 'master of retards', nor does he fail to understand Terra. Terra doesn't have complete, 100% control over his heart, refusing to tolerate its existence. Eraqus thinks this is bad, and refuses to see Terra as a master as long as this persists. His devotion to is admirable, but misplaced. It leads to his own downfall, but he is a capable teacher, and will do anything for his beliefs,

[Dio Brando 5,810]

your reply was for who?

 

To the guy who made this thread

 

+

 

I can go on and on and on about Eraqus but let me say this

 

there is no such thing as superior or inferior in the KH series because every game did it's part in the story

 

if the matter is what you like more that's an opinion

 

you think BBS is better,fine but don't force your opinion on me to make me like BBS more,you don't have the right to inforce your opinion on me

 

Plus.this site doesn't represent the majority of KH fans so there might be people outside who like KH3D more than BBS and vice versa

 

this thread is just a subjective opinion of someone who think his opinion is everyone's opinion and that makes this thread just a place for a worthless fanboys war.

 

Dude the KH fanbase starts to become more like the crappy FF fanbase.Both don't respect the tastes and opinions of others.

 

It's always like this : (I like BBS you should like it to or else you're not a KH fan)

 

just like what the FF fanbase say: ( if you like FF13 then f%^& you,you don't know what a true FF is)

 

I'm not gonna dive myself deeply into this bullshit anymore

 

if there is no respect then I'm done communicating with fanbases other than the Mega Man fanbase,the most peaceful and respectful fanbase I ever communicated with.

 

Dude.Fans of Square Enix's franchises are really sick people who can't stop fighting each other over a different tastes and opinions

 

As Lea said; it's subjective to the person. I personally like Dream Drop a whole lot more than BBS. Then again, I don't believe in the concept of prioritizing and rating KH games. Some aren't as strong of a title as the others but they all weave together to make an incredibly intricate and deep story.

 

Whoa.Finally a person who understand that there are different tastes and opinions.

Edited October 21, 2012 by Metal Snake