Raziel 248 Posted October 14, 2012 In KH 1, why did light come out of the Door to Darkness? It NEVER explained that to my knowledge. And why were they talking to the DtD like it WAS Kingdom Hearts? (Ansem saying "KH fill me with darkness" and whatnot, talking to the door...) I'm pretty sure KH and the DtD are two completely different things entirely. Wtf am I missing here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rashid Miko Ahmed 36 Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) kingdom hearts was swallowed by darkness during the keyblade wars but there will always be light in the darkest of dark to lead the way Edited October 14, 2012 by Rashid Miko Ahmed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJ Smith 123 Posted October 14, 2012 kingdom hearts was swallowed by darkness during the keyblade wars but there will always be light in the darkest of dark to lead the way Great explanation, yeah what Rashid said 1 Rashid Miko Ahmed reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 14, 2012 Actually according to the DDD mementos the KH in KH1 was artificial just like the KH in KH2..The KH in KH1 was made from the hearts of the worlds and the KH in KH2 was made from the hearts of people. So neither of them were the original KH 4 luka, Rashid Miko Ahmed, Robbie the Wise and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raziel 248 Posted October 14, 2012 Actually according to the DDD mementos the KH in KH1 was artificial just like the KH in KH2..The KH in KH1 was made from the hearts of the worlds and the KH in KH2 was made from the hearts of people. So neither of them were the original KH Oooh ok. I bet that's how this whole series is going to end; reviving the original Kingdom Hearts and everyone lives happily ever after. lol Was the fake KH present at the time that Ansem was bombarded with light or something? All I saw was the door...but they were talking to KH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted October 14, 2012 Because, Kingdom Hearts is light!!! If you listen to the whole story Kairi's grandma tells (err...read it), it tells that the true light (Kingdom Hearts) sleeps within the deepest darkness; Sora was able to awaken that light to defeat Ansem. So just in case people were wondering why Sora deserves to be a keyblade master. He called light out of the Realm of Darkness. Yeah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 14, 2012 Oooh ok. I bet that's how this whole series is going to end; reviving the original Kingdom Hearts and everyone lives happily ever after. lol Was the fake KH present at the time that Ansem was bombarded with light or something? All I saw was the door...but they were talking to KH. It was still a Kingdom Hearts--just artificially made...it wasnt the door itself per se but what was inside it .. 3 luka, Robbie the Wise and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisitJoan 2,713 Posted October 14, 2012 And if you notice, that door showed up with the Kingdom Hearts in KHII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shard the Gentleman 2,891 Posted October 14, 2012 So, If the one in KH was artificial, than what IS kingdom hearts? I always thought it WAS the heart of all worlds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted October 15, 2012 And if you notice, that door showed up with the Kingdom Hearts in KHII. No, no, no! The two doors don't even look that much alike! The Door to Darkness in KH1 and the door that appears in front of the artificial kingdom Hearts in KH2 are not the same. The one in kh1 was a door to darkness, ie the Realm of Darkness, not necessarily Kingdom Hearts itself. Kingdom Hearts was somewhere beyond that door to darkness, within the realm of darkness. So, If the one in KH was artificial, than what IS kingdom hearts? I always thought it WAS the heart of all worlds. It was still a Kingdom Hearts--just artificially made...it wasnt the door itself per se but what was inside it .. Well, the true Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be made out of the hearts of worlds, right? So, could you say Ansem SoD wasn't necessarily making an artificial Kingdom Hearts so much as corrupting the true Kingdom Hearts...? But the only way to truly unlock the power of this Kingdom Hearts would be via X-blade...?IDK, everything we've dealt with is fake and a lie, we learn so little every game and are just bombarded with more questions...there is so much of this actually discussed in-game that its ridiculous. So far, this game shouldn't even be called Kingdom Hearts, it should just be called Xehanort, 'cause that's all we've been focusing on, we don't even know what Kingdom Hearts is but everybody wants it rant over. I suppose that's sort of the whole point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 15, 2012 No, no, no! The two doors don't even look that much alike! The Door to Darkness in KH1 and the door that appears in front of the artificial kingdom Hearts in KH2 are not the same. The one in kh1 was a door to darkness, ie the Realm of Darkness, not necessarily Kingdom Hearts itself. Kingdom Hearts was somewhere beyond that door to darkness, within the realm of darkness. Well, the true Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be made out of the hearts of worlds, right? So, could you say Ansem SoD wasn't necessarily making an artificial Kingdom Hearts so much as corrupting the true Kingdom Hearts...? But the only way to truly unlock the power of this Kingdom Hearts would be via X-blade...? IDK, everything we've dealt with is fake and a lie, we learn so little every game and are just bombarded with more questions...there is so much of this actually discussed in-game that its ridiculous. So far, this game shouldn't even be called Kingdom Hearts, it should just be called Xehanort, 'cause that's all we've been focusing on, we don't even know what Kingdom Hearts is but everybody wants it >. Nomura logic really ... It was outright stated that it was artficial so its definitely artficial.. Its not the original KH --its one that is manufactured ..The original KH wasnt manufactured and didnt need made ..It existed period whereas the KH Ansem created wouldnt have existed at all naturally if it had not been artificially made..Also IMO i think this was actually a retcon ...Point is you cannot argue that it wasnt artificial bc it was said in game and is canon regardless that its artificial 3 luka, Demyx. and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted October 15, 2012 Nomura logic really ... It was outright stated that it was artficial so its definitely artficial.. Its not the original KH --its one that is manufactured ..The original KH wasnt manufactured and didnt need made ..It existed period whereas the KH Ansem created wouldnt have existed at all naturally if it had not been artificially made..Also IMO i think this was actually a retcon ...Point is you cannot argue that it wasnt artificial bc it was said in game and is canon regardless that its artificial *headdesk* I give up trying to understand. Well, anyway, I guess this Kingdom Hearts artificial or not would still have light (hearts of worlds), so that's what Sora summoned and again Sora is awesome lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOfTheCastle 92 Posted October 15, 2012 Here I was thinking I understood the series and I forgot that this one part makes no sense to me. A lot of KH1 makes no sense, to be honest 1 Kirux reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruran 481 Posted October 15, 2012 Nomura logic really ... It was outright stated that it was artficial so its definitely artficial.. Its not the original KH --its one that is manufactured ..The original KH wasnt manufactured and didnt need made ..It existed period whereas the KH Ansem created wouldnt have existed at all naturally if it had not been artificially made..Also IMO i think this was actually a retcon ...Point is you cannot argue that it wasnt artificial bc it was said in game and is canon regardless that its artificial It was more like bad translating in this case. There's a topic talking about it on KHI and apparently it was mentioned all the way back in KH1 that that Kingdom Hearts was in fact "fake" but it wasn't mentioned in the English translation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 15, 2012 It was more like bad translating in this case. There's a topic talking about it on KHI and apparently it was mentioned all the way back in KH1 that that Kingdom Hearts was in fact "fake" but it wasn't mentioned in the English translation. Whether it was a retcon or bad translation, either way the KH in KH 1 is fake or artificial and it wasn't presented in KH1 as that .. 3 luka, Robbie the Wise and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruran 481 Posted October 15, 2012 Whether it was a retcon or bad translation, either way the KH in KH 1 is fake or artificial and it wasn't presented in KH1 as that .. I know, I'm not debating whether it's fake or not, just stating that it was presented in KH1 at one point but the translation made it confusing~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shera Wizard 2,736 Posted October 24, 2012 Okay Now I'm confused Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedanort 8,786 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Sh** happened, that's why kingdom hearts was swallowed by darkness during the keyblade wars but there will always be light in the darkest of dark to lead the way This. Edited October 26, 2012 by Sora's Little Helper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venxas24 544 Posted October 27, 2012 There's always light in the darkest of places. Kingdom Hearts, is LIGHT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
