---roxas dot--- 0 Posted February 18, 2010 dont know if this question was already made but when sora lost his heart and made roxas, did that result with ventus getting his heart back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoyorastio 0 Posted February 18, 2010 no i think that would give Roxas Ventus' heart or a piece of Ventus's heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slashedkite 6 Posted February 18, 2010 remember when sora stabbed himself, Kairi's heart was released and Namine formed. A piece of sora's heart, kairi's heart and ventus heart was released resulting for the formation of Roxas, the nobody of Sora (who looks like Ven), and Kairi's nobody Namine. Therefore, Roxas is the combination of Sora's nobody existence and the appearance of Ventus. 3 pieces of hearts at the same time. Well, that's my theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AussieGurl15 0 Posted February 18, 2010 i think roxas was one of those special nobodies.... coz remember at the end of 358/2 days roxas cried coz xion was dying?? well nobodies are not meant to have hearts.. so my theory is that half of vens heart was in roxas, which i believe half of roxas was ven and the other a nobody, and the other is in sora so that he can still wield the keyblade.. so i think everything will be explained in the upcoming game.. i think its gonna be called Reconnect Kingdom Hearts (thats what the secret ending said in the scene with sora kairi and riku where sora has decided what to do after reading that letter) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoyorastio 0 Posted February 18, 2010 whoa those 2 theories are good and very accurate... makes my theory look like an ant >,< ok so Roxas had pieces of Sora's memories too right? then he also had Ventus' memories too? or at least some? I used to think that Roxas had a part of Ventus' heart and Sora's memories, thus having Roxas looking like Ventus(having left half of his clothes look just like the other) and seeing Xion's face as a mixture of Kairi's face and Aqua's face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X-Blade 0 Posted February 18, 2010 I donn't think Ven is related to sora/roxas in any way. correct me if im wrong but as far as I know they have no connection whatso ever (inless u count being a keyblade weilder) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 437 Posted February 18, 2010 I donn't think Ven is related to sora/roxas in any way. correct me if im wrong but as far as I know they have no connection whatso ever (inless u count being a keyblade weilder) You've got to be kidding me. Seriously, they show it in Birth By Sleep. Not only that, they didn't make Vanitas look like Sora for no reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sora-roxas123 0 Posted February 25, 2010 no there is some relationship between all of them so ven or ventus is soras unbirth then as he went into a kind of sleep his heart went to sora thats why he can use a keyblade. cause ven was a original keyblade master then when sora turned into a heartless sora still had his heart so you guys know a heartless with a strong heart makes a nobody.so when roxas was forming a piece of ven and sora went into him and thats why he looks like ven and because he can use a keyblade. oh and slashed kite namine isnt a nobody well shes actually half witch half nobody thats why she looks like kairi and why xion looks like namine.and aussie roxas has emotions cause he has some of vens heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gbmaster22 0 Posted April 10, 2010 If Ventus is Roxas. and Xion and Roxas are Sora. Does that mean that Sora Roxas and Xion is Ventus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haleybrookehaskins 0 Posted May 3, 2010 noone knows 4 sure these are all just theories because no one in this room has played kingdom hearts birth by sleep yet unless they speak japonese. so i know this because it comes out december/??/2010.but i think roxas just has soras memoires because if he was a nobody he would not have feelings and he does because cried when xion died and he was woried about her. i think ven(venitus) never died i think hes half hes heart took a deep slumber within roxas's body and half of his heart has not awoken yet. so it is being replaced with soras meimories.the reason i think this is the fact the title is called BIRTH BY SLEEP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted May 4, 2010 noone knows 4 sure these are all just theories because no one in this room has played kingdom hearts birth by sleep yet unless they speak japonese. so i know this because it comes out december/??/2010.but i think roxas just has soras memoires because if he was a nobody he would not have feelings and he does because cried when xion died and he was woried about her. i think ven(venitus) never died i think hes half hes heart took a deep slumber within roxas's body and half of his heart has not awoken yet. so it is being replaced with soras meimories.the reason i think this is the fact the title is called BIRTH BY SLEEP. Already confirmed that Roxas doesn't have any memories from his life as a complete being, due to the limited amount of time Sora had spent as a Heartless. Roxas is a Nobody by definition, in the sense that he's the leftover body and soul Sora left behind when he became a Heartless. When Sora used the Heart Unlocker on himself, he released both his own and Kairi's heart but Ven's heart was left behind, and along with Sora's body and soul, went on to become Roxas. Ven is not dead, and it never implied that he was. He is merely comatose, due to having an incomplete heart. By the end of BBS, Ven's heart had merged with Sora's. A stab from the Heart Unlocker ended up separating the two. Also, there are fansubs, which means we don't have to wait for the english version exactly. And the December date from GameStop is a placeholder. We already have a Summer 2010 release date officially from Square-Enix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haleybrookehaskins 0 Posted May 4, 2010 noone knows 4 sure these are all just theories because no one in this room has played kingdom hearts birth by sleep yet unless they speak japonese. so i know this because it comes out december/??/2010.but i think roxas just has soras memoires because if he was a nobody he would not have feelings and he does because cried when xion died and he was woried about her. i think ven(venitus) never died i think hes half hes heart took a deep slumber within roxas's body and half of his heart has not awoken yet. so it is being replaced with soras meimories.the reason i think this is the fact the title is called BIRTH BY SLEEP. Already confirmed that Roxas doesn't have any memories from his life as a complete being, due to the limited amount of time Sora had spent as a Heartless. Roxas is a Nobody by definition, in the sense that he's the leftover body and soul Sora left behind when he became a Heartless. When Sora used the Heart Unlocker on himself, he released both his own and Kairi's heart but Ven's heart was left behind, and along with Sora's body and soul, went on to become Roxas. Ven is not dead, and it never implied that he was. He is merely comatose, due to having an incomplete heart. By the end of BBS, Ven's heart had merged with Sora's. A stab from the Heart Unlocker ended up separating the two. Also, there are fansubs, which means we don't have to wait for the english version exactly. And the December date from GameStop is a placeholder. We already have a Summer 2010 release date officially from Square-Enix. thank you 4 correcting me on the due date but i still think roxas and ven are still the same person and noy nobodies but when i know 4 sure i wiil not forget to post so ether i was wrong or u where wrong.and if you go to you tube it tells you vens heart was realeased Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted May 4, 2010 noone knows 4 sure these are all just theories because no one in this room has played kingdom hearts birth by sleep yet unless they speak japonese. so i know this because it comes out december/??/2010.but i think roxas just has soras memoires because if he was a nobody he would not have feelings and he does because cried when xion died and he was woried about her. i think ven(venitus) never died i think hes half hes heart took a deep slumber within roxas's body and half of his heart has not awoken yet. so it is being replaced with soras meimories.the reason i think this is the fact the title is called BIRTH BY SLEEP. Already confirmed that Roxas doesn't have any memories from his life as a complete being, due to the limited amount of time Sora had spent as a Heartless. Roxas is a Nobody by definition, in the sense that he's the leftover body and soul Sora left behind when he became a Heartless. When Sora used the Heart Unlocker on himself, he released both his own and Kairi's heart but Ven's heart was left behind, and along with Sora's body and soul, went on to become Roxas. Ven is not dead, and it never implied that he was. He is merely comatose, due to having an incomplete heart. By the end of BBS, Ven's heart had merged with Sora's. A stab from the Heart Unlocker ended up separating the two. Also, there are fansubs, which means we don't have to wait for the english version exactly. And the December date from GameStop is a placeholder. We already have a Summer 2010 release date officially from Square-Enix. thank you 4 correcting me on the due date but i still think roxas and ven are still the same person and noy nobodies but when i know 4 sure i wiil not forget to post so ether i was wrong or u where wrong.and if you go to you tube it tells you vens heart was realeased If Ven's heart was released back into his body, then Roxas wouldn't have a heart, nor would Ven be one of those still in torment. And like I said, Nomura already confirmed that Roxas is Sora's Nobody. But hey, it's your own opinion, and I'm not going to try to change your mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarCharm 54 Posted May 5, 2010 If Ventus is Roxas. and Xion and Roxas are Sora. Does that mean that Sora Roxas and Xion is Ventus. -thinks- now that you mention it, that it's kinda true. I've watched the game in youtube with subs, (strwbrymilk uploaded if you want to watch it) and Sora really is part of Ven. So yeah, Roxas and Xion, that form Sora, and Sora that is part of Ven, are technically Ventus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted May 6, 2010 Not Xion though, since she's just an embodiment of Sora's memories of Kairi. Sora's not Ven if you're saying it like that, but he simply shares a connection with him due to, well, the connection with their hearts. And Roxas is Sora's body and soul, but with Ven's heart I guess basically what I'm trying to say will be broken down below: Xion = Sora Roxas = 2/3 Sora, 1/3 Ven Sora = Sora Ven pre-Xehanort = Ven Ven post-Xehanort = 5/6 Ven, 1/6 Sora Ven post-BBS = 2/3 Ven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted December 8, 2010 I just get confused when you think about Roxas and Ventus may be coming back because of the secret ending of BBS, it just makes you think that if they do come back, will the both of them come back as separate people? Or are Roxas and Ven come back as the same people? I guess we have to wait T-T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites