The Number 13: Let's Recap

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

Now that we just have one game to go in the Xehanort Saga, I'd like to take a minute to recount all the times that the number 13 comes up. A lot of them are obvious, but sometimes not so much. In fact, the sheer amount of times it comes up is pretty staggering. And with Mr. Nomura, I can't help but think it's not an accident; especially considering how abundant the Recusant's Sigil has been throughout the series, even though it was only recently revealed.

 

Here's a list of all the ones I'm aware of. Most of them are courtesy of The Keyhole.

• Organization XIII (obviously)
• Thirteen letters in "Kingdom Hearts."
• Thirteen letters total in:
• "Sora + Riku + Kairi"
• "Aqua + Terra + Ventus" _{Thanks Sanmuri, I should check my sources better ^^}
• "Axel + Roxas + Xion"
• "Terra + Xehanort"
• "Ventus and Vanitas" (*This one's a little "iffy")
• "End of the World"
• "Hollow Bastion"
• "Radiant Garden"
• "Light + Darkness"
• In Kingdom Hearts, the last world seen is the 13th
• This is also true of Kingdom Hearts II and Birth by Sleep
• In Kingdom Hearts Re:coded, there are 13 System Sectors
• In the opening movie of Kingdom Hearts the letter "M" in the word "Kingdom" surges towards the screen distinctly, with "M" being the 13th letter in the alphabet.
• There are 13 floors and 13 basements to Castle Oblivion
• If Kingdom Hearts 3 elapses another year, the entire saga from Birth By Sleep to Kingdom Hearts 3 will have been 13 years.

That's all I have right now. The wiki page I linked has more instances, but a lot of them I found to be irrelevant.

 

So, are there any other instances of the number 13 that you've come across?

Edited September 29, 2012 by LordOfTheCastle

[Blake 776]

Nomura's 13 fetish?

[Queen Tery 4,591]

And if you put them together you get a B, which is the grade that I give this thread.

[Pyrrha Nikos 1,162]

13 is just everywhere.

[XIIISwords 1,059]

• If Kingdom Hearts 3 elapses another year, the entire saga from Birth By Sleep to Kingdom Hearts 3 will have been 13 years.

That's so cool! Nice find!!!

 

But you're forgetting one!

 

XIIIBlades, the Limit that Sora and Riku use that is my namesake!

[WakelessDream 2,282]

Tetsuya+Nomura: 13 letters in total too *le gasp* http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png its all a conspiracy! this was by no means an accident!

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

If in fact, he did think that far back. I have great respect for the man.

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

And if you put them together you get a B, which is the grade that I give this thread.

 

Reminds me of FMA's "Warehouse 13" ^^

That's so cool! Nice find!!!

 

But you're forgetting one!

 

XIIIBlades, the Limit that Sora and Riku use that is my namesake!

 

Thanks. That one I actually figured out on my own

 

Haha sorry I also didn't include the one that mentions that Ars Arcanum has 13 attacks total, I kind of glazed over those ones

If in fact, he did think that far back. I have great respect for the man.

 

Well, if you know about the Recusant's Sigil (Which I'm guessing you do if you're in the 3D forums) then take a look at Riku back in KH1:

I think he's got the whole thing figured out haha

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

Reminds me of FMA's "Warehouse 13" ^^

 

 

Thanks. That one I actually figured out on my own

 

Haha sorry I also didn't include the one that mentions that Ars Arcanum has 13 attacks total, I kind of glazed over those ones

 

Well, if you know about the Recusant's Sigil (Which I'm guessing you do if you're in the 3D forums) then take a look at Riku back in KH1:

I think he's got the whole thing figured out haha

 

That could be the case but I don't think that every X in the game is a recusant sigil. Sora's sigil is just a silver mark on his clothes, Riku's is actually strapps that have a function in his outfit. I just don't think it's the same thing.

[xoblivionx13 1,133]

I think I just got slightly mindblown.....O.O......derp. Now I shall search for more Oh and especially with the "x", it's stinking everywhere....names, weapons, anagrams, clothes....good gravy I'll be spending the rest of my life looking for this stuff in the games

[Zola 3,038]

That is AWESOME!!! It makes me wonder just how much of this stuff he had planned out when he was making KH1, and which things just happened to work out really good as he went along.

 

On a somewhat irrelevant side note, I was born on Friday the thirteenth and I love Kingdom Hearts. It was just meant to be. >:}

[Kello 310]

Just when 15 = 13?

Aqua, 4 letters.

Terra, 5 letters.

Ventus, 6 letters.

4 + 5 + 6 = 15, not 13.

[DChiuch 5,773]

Counting letters is dumb. If you're looking for that kind of pattern with any number, then you can always find things.

[hatok 6,413]

Counting letters is dumb. If you're looking for that kind of pattern with any number, then you can always find things.

 

DChiuch + Oishii is 13 letters!

[SamChi 0]

Besides that, the source material is in Japanese. Most of the name-letter-number ratios would need to hold up in Japanese as well for those to even be slightly significant.

[Queen Tery 4,591]

Well, if Nomura keeps true to the release a year and the PC game comes out a year after 1.5 HD and then 2.5 HD(if it's made) comes out a year after that and then 3 comes out it will have been 13 years since KH 1 has come out before KH 3 comes out. But these are all really big "IF's."

[VisitJoan 2,713]

This is the reason that that number no longer freaks me out. I used avoid anything to with that number, but thanks to Kingdom Hearts (and Roxas) it's no longer a problem.

[Caity 3,946]

"Secret Message" also has 13 letters (hope I didn't miscount there)

If they weren't making a remix and proceeded with KH3 next, it would be 13th game released

 

1. Kingdom Hearts BBS

2. Kingdom Hearts BBSFM

3. Kingdom Hearts

4. Kingdom HeartsFM

5. Kingdom hearts COM

6. Kingdom hearts RE:COM

7. KingdomHearts Days

8. Kingdom Hearts 2

9. Kingdom hearts 2FM

10. Kingdom Hearts Coded

11. Kingdom hearts RE:Coded

12. Kingdom hearts DDD

Next would have been KH3

 

(I didn't count KH V CAST, since it's not canon)

 

Also, if you were to split XIII, you could do X (10) take away III (3) and get 7. [7 Guardians of Light]

Edited September 28, 2012 by Caity Raindrop

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

That could be the case but I don't think that every X in the game is a recusant sigil. Sora's sigil is just a silver mark on his clothes, Riku's is actually strapps that have a function in his outfit. I just don't think it's the same thing.

 

Fair enough, though there's also Terra, Aqua, and Ventus:

Master Eraqus

Saix

 

Of course you can't say that about every X in existence, but it's still fun to speculate ^^

 

"Secret Message" also has 13 letters (hope I didn't miscount there)

If they weren't making a remix and proceeded with KH3 next, it would be 13th game released

 

1. Kingdom Hearts BBS

2. Kingdom Hearts BBSFM

3. Kingdom Hearts

4. Kingdom HeartsFM

5. Kingdom hearts COM

6. Kingdom hearts RE:COM

7. KingdomHearts Days

8. Kingdom Hearts 2

9. Kingdom hearts 2FM

10. Kingdom Hearts Coded

11. Kingdom hearts RE:Coded

12. Kingdom hearts DDD

Next would have been KH3

 

(I didn't count KH V CAST, since it's not canon)

 

Also, if you were to split XIII, you could do X (10) take away III (3) and get 7. [7 Guardians of Light]

 

Unfortunately there was a Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix +, so it still doesn't work. That's why I decided not to include that one Also they're going to make Birth by Sleep II as well.

 

And yeah, but that's just basically subtracting from 20. Not meaning to burst your bubble D:

[Caity 3,946]

Fair enough, though there's also Terra, Aqua, and Ventus:

Master Eraqus

Saix

 

Of course you can't say that about every X in existence, but it's still fun to speculate ^^

 

 

 

Unfortunately there was a Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix +, so it still doesn't work. That's why I decided not to include that one Also they're going to make Birth by Sleep II as well.

 

And yeah, but that's just basically subtracting from 20. Not meaning to burst your bubble D:

 

They were going to make a BBSV2, they scraped it and started on DDD instead

And Kingdom Hearts 2 FM+ was just KH2FM (already mentioned) with the remastered KH RE:COM (mentioned as well)

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

They were going to make a BBSV2, they scraped it and started on DDD instead

And Kingdom Hearts 2 FM+ was just KH2FM (already mentioned) with the remastered KH RE:COM (mentioned as well)

 

Well they decided to make it later, and move on with 3D. Believe me, I wish it added up to 13 but it seems like it just wont

 

You're absolutely right about FInal Mix+ though, I wasn't actually aware of that, so thanks! ^^

[Caity 3,946]

Well they decided to make it later, and move on with 3D. Believe me, I wish it added up to 13 but it seems like it just wont

 

You're absolutely right about FInal Mix+ though, I wasn't actually aware of that, so thanks! ^^

 

I think re-releasing the previous games on one console is just being used to get new fans and old fans back into the series before they release KH3 (a number of my friends went off the series when they started releasing so many side/bridge/filler games and the same could be said for a number of other fans elsewhere), by doing so they'll generate interest and thus more sales when the time comes, but if they didn't remaster it it would be the 13th (as FM+ was a bundle), however now it'd be the 15 /: Would have been neat if it was the 13. It's like a 13 fetish

[LordOfTheCastle 92]

I think re-releasing the previous games on one console is just being used to get new fans and old fans back into the series before they release KH3 (a number of my friends went off the series when they started releasing so many side/bridge/filler games and the same could be said for a number of other fans elsewhere), by doing so they'll generate interest and thus more sales when the time comes, but if they didn't remaster it it would be the 13th (as FM+ was a bundle), however now it'd be the 15 /: Would have been neat if it was the 13. It's like a 13 fetish

 

Yeah but all the other Re: Games are also just ported to more accessible platforms, so 1.5 is basically Re: Kingdom Hearts and such. But yeah it wouldve been neat

[Weiss 8,279]

The question is what comes more. 13s or Xs?

13s are quite common owo

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Wow, I did not know any of this stuff! Thanks for the info. I wonder where in KH3 we'll see thirteen.