KHIII's new Trinity of Heroes

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ah Nomura, causing confusion since 2001

 

 

but I'm pretty sure they can comeback somehow

 

if they do come back, this will create more confusion ( for me anyway) and leave me crazy. even when they put the time travel idea in 3d it made me nuts. tbh kh has a lot of plotholes that could screw anything up. regardless, im in love withe series.

[Gxmwp 28]

if they do come back, this will create more confusion ( for me anyway) and leave me crazy. even when they put the time travel idea in 3d it made me nuts. tbh kh has a lot of plotholes that could screw anything up. regardless, im in love withe series.

 

to me I would be wondering how xion got back(that would be a mind firetruck), but with Roxas all I think he really needs is a body and don't we all love kh on here =D

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to me I would be wondering how xion got back(that would be a mind firetruck), but with Roxas all I think he really needs is a body and don't we all love kh on here =D

 

Idk Roxas to me is very similar to Ventus. So if Ventus were to come into play, I wouldn't mind if Roxas wasn't there.

[Gxmwp 28]

Idk Roxas to me is very similar to Ventus. So if Ventus were to come into play, I wouldn't mind if Roxas wasn't there.

 

hmmm...that's a good point...but then Roxas would have been a bit of a useless character and they're obviously hinting at him having a bigger roll. Also what would have been the point of of adding him to that letter data Namine wrote if he weren't of some importance. Buuuuuut, it's kh so they might come up with a bullshit reason for why he was brought back(if he's brought back)

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

Well Ven shared Sora's heart as a vessel due to his heart being being too weak to manage on his own. And Ven isn't a Nobody. He's his own person which basically infers that he will definitely make a return. Technically Roxas isn't a complete person. He has been part of Sora from the very begging of Roxas's existance.

 

No. The amount of incorrectness in your statement is staggering. When Axel says 'I' he means the person who was once Lea. When Roxas says 'I' he means the person with a connection to Sora, but with his own sense of self, he is not Sora, he came from Sora. Similarly with Xion.

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No. The amount of incorrectness in your statement is staggering. When Axel says 'I' he means the person who was once Lea. When Roxas says 'I' he means the person with a connection to Sora, but with his own sense of self, he is not Sora, he came from Sora. Similarly with Xion.

 

I never said he was Sora. I said that he was part of Sora. Sora was not complete until Roxas reunited with him. Same goes for Kairi and Namine. And Nobodies are not complete people. They're not suppose to exist either (says that in the game itself). Basically in the sense of kingdom hearts your saying that me killing myself gives birth to a complete person (-1=+1).

[Caity 3,946]

Which of the trios do you consider "mediocre"? I can't really think of any that devalue Donald and Goofy's involvement in KHI. They certainly aren't the only one's that are "effective" or "well developed"; Roxas, Xion, and Axel go through more character development in 358/2 Days than Sora does in the entire series. Terra, Aqua, and Ven failed as a trio, but through that failing they were effective at illustrating the importance of trust, friendship, and faith in one another.

 

I'm not discounting the Sora, Donald, Goofy trio. They were three individuals that joined forces two find their missing friends and became friends along the way. Repeating that union of circumstances beyond Kingdom Hearts 1 wouldn't have had as strong of an impact, or would've simply been telling a story already told. The erosion of their trio's importance was inevitable once their friendship had been established.

 

 

 

 

Roxas would cross over, but the friendship he formed with them was with their digital projections inside the fake Twilight Town, or fleeting moments in 358/2 Days. Technically that means their friendship wasn't real; that isn't to say that they wouldn't be friends if they met up. I agree that they won't fight though, I was only pointing out the consistency of the trio theme.

 

But considering how it's kingdom hearts (where they say one thing and then totally flip it anyway), he shouldn't have even had feelings yet was able to do that too, also the Real Hayner Pence and Olette felt a connection to Sora based on the relationship between Roxas and their data selves, so I wouldn't say the relationship isn't real.

[Kirux 1,224]

roxas and xion are gone. they are now one with sora.

 

 

like a i said "those are what you call visions which he saw those that were connected to him." If Roxas were to return, your probably going to have to kill Sora off again and then come his heartless and then his nobody.

 

Firstly, if I am to understand things correctly. Roxas is a special nobody because he did have a heart; he had Ventus' heart. I believe that this is why he could feel things and also why he didn't remember anything from being his somebody. Also; like the other Org members that came back; he also started to grow a heart while he was a Nobody. He just understood that Sora needed to come back, so he sacrificed himself so that Sora could wake up. I don't think this is confirmed in an interview; but I always felt that Sora was able to wake up again because he had Ven's heart back, and that's why Roxas was truly needed.

 

 

Secondly; In DDD there is the hint to the fact Sora may have the power to bring people back who have a connection to his heart. This was addressed by DiZ and Riku on the beach at the ending. I think this will play a part in at least Ventus and, due to the previous encounter Sora had with Roxas in TWTNW (Where Sora INSISTED upon Roxas being his own separate person, and desperately wanted to find a way to bring him back) I strongly believe Sora will find a way to bring Roxas back.

 

Lastly; If you think about it, that's the sort of person Sora is. He is constantly trying to fix everyone, and make sure they are happy. After the vulcan mind meld Roxas did to Sora, I believe Sora is immensely inspired to bring him back. The first game had him single mindedly focused on rescuing Kairi, to the point he ignored Riku. The second game, he was single mindedly focused on finding Riku, to the point he gave up the chance to go back to Destiny Islands at the end of KHI. Sora now knows about the other people who are out there, connected to him and hurting. He will single mindedly try to save them all, to the point were he is oblivious to the danger he is getting himself into. This was proven in DDD when he ran after Riku and Kairi/Terra and Aqua, despite hearing Riku yelling at him to stop.

 

Sora will find a way to bring him back; just like he'll find a way to bring everyone else back. It's who he is as a person and that's why we love him.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

I never said he was Sora. I said that he was part of Sora. Sora was not complete until Roxas reunited with him. Same goes for Kairi and Namine. And Nobodies are not complete people. They're not suppose to exist either (says that in the game itself). Basically in the sense of kingdom hearts your saying that me killing myself gives birth to a complete person (-1=+1).

 

He's not a part of Sora, he held a part of Sora, the difference is like me saying I am a series of books, and I have some of the books. Sora is incomplete unless he can regain the memories that are attracted to Roxas, but his existence is independent of those memories, Sora's past is not Roxas'. Roxas has no past.Xion is similar, but more complicated, but she still is a person, merely one who holds part of Sora's identity. Sora existed before Roxas, Roxas is not some alternate personlality that now gets to express itself, he is a person. And Nobodies aren't supposed to exist, but as a violation of Yen Sid's understanding of reality. In-game people are comprised of three parts, heart, soul, and body. The body is a mere vessel, if it loses heart or soul, it should not be capable of continuing to function. He's saying they shouldn't exist any more than a car should be drivable without an engine. The problem is they do exist, and it makes no sense. He is NOT saying their existence is a blight upon nature, and it is his job to see them wiped out entirely. That is DiZ's job, and I would see him burn for it. All I'm saying is there is such a thing as sentient rights, a sentient life-form (which the Nobodies are) has rights innate to itself, the natural human rights of the Enlightenment. Being a lifeform is insufficient grounds, many parasites are alive, and I do not believe there is a moral objection to killing them, and humans or even humanoids is too confining. Nobodies can think, reason, plan, identify self, etc. They are sentient, merely without hearts and inexplicable by the laws of Kingdom Hearts Universe. They are naturally impossible, not naturally evil.

[mikethegamer 53]

Sora, Donald and Goofy. Seriously. Bring back that trio. Now. And give them better AI too.

[John TheDon Horton 40]

Well whoever are the Main Heroes are going to be IN KH3 Maybe It would be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Terra, Aqua, Ventus, Roxas, Lea, Mickey, Donald, and Goofy

[Gxmwp 28]

Firstly, if I am to understand things correctly. Roxas is a special nobody because he did have a heart; he had Ventus' heart. I believe that this is why he could feel things and also why he didn't remember anything from being his somebody. Also; like the other Org members that came back; he also started to grow a heart while he was a Nobody. He just understood that Sora needed to come back, so he sacrificed himself so that Sora could wake up. I don't think this is confirmed in an interview; but I always felt that Sora was able to wake up again because he had Ven's heart back, and that's why Roxas was truly needed..

 

Roxas has his own heart. Not Ventus Edited September 25, 2012 by Gxmwp

[Demyx. 10,064]

Yeah this is pretty much what will go down. When all the lights have failed Kingdom hearts will be open. Master Xehanort will absorb all the other 12 darknesses, Then when all hope is lost Demyx, Luxord and Namine will leap into kingdom hearts and defeat Master Xehanort once and for all,.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Roxas has his own heart. Not Ventus

 

NO actually Roxas has Vens heart and also grew his own .Nomura confirmed FACT .

[Kishira 2,854]

Holy shoes, we went from trios; to figuring out identities.

[XIIISwords 1,059]

Holy shoes, we went from trios; to figuring out identities.

 

Back to trios then?

 

What about...

 

Simba, Timon, Pumba

Tarzan, Jane, Clayton

Tinker Bell, x2 Lost Boys

Quora, Sam, Sam's Dad (Name fail)

Xemnas, Xigbar, Saix

Leaxeus, Zexion, Vexen

Marluxia, Axel, Larxene

Leon, Yuffie, Aerith

Huey, Dewey, Louie

Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa

Hades, Pain, Panic

Sora/Riku, x2 Dream Eaters

Sora, Donald, Goofy

Yuna, Rikku, Payne

Tidus, Wakka, Selphie

 

^Ha ha ha, spell check is so mad at me right now!

Edited September 25, 2012 by XIIISwords

[Kishira 2,854]

So, how about dem trios?

[Nortman919 0]

How about good ol' Sora, Donald and Goofy again?

[Kirux 1,224]

I feel like the only person who hated having Donald and Goofy in my party...

[Gxmwp 28]

 

 

NO actually Roxas has Vens heart and also grew his own .Nomura confirmed FACT .

 

oh, ok. Must have been thinking of when he said he's not Ven. Thanks for correcting me

[G-SANtos 105]

Right, I said it's a "conclusion". It's the last part of the Xehanort saga, and it would be poor writing to introduce significant, new character this late in the narrative. The players are set. We don't need any new characters for the conclusion of this story.

 

What I should've said was that I don't think we'll see any new trios, and they would be unnecessary if they inserted them.

 

New characters are inevitable. We've got to fill the True Organization XIII, and Nomura hinted in an interview that when Terra-Xehanort stabbed himself in the end of BBS that a Nobody may have been created. For all we know, this Nobody could be the seventh light, or the thirteenth darkness. There could even be a Nobody for Eraqus somewhere.

 

 

like a i said "those are what you call visions which he saw those that were connected to him." If Roxas were to return, your probably going to have to kill Sora off again and then come his heartless and then his nobody.

 

shes a copy of a nobody. so technically shes a artificial nobody.

 

well Sora and Kairi weren't whole without their nobody counterparts so they were bound to go back from once they originated from.

 

Nomura has confirmed one of the main plot points in KHIII will be saving those who are in pain, which includes Roxas, Naminé, and Xion, and he also said the data Ansem the Wise gave to Riku has the key to bringing them back. Basically, their return is inevitable, and it's pretty much guaranteed they will get their own complete existences in KHIII.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

I feel like the only person who hated having Donald and Goofy in my party...

 

Don't feel alone, I'm crossing my fingers they won't appear in KHIII outside of cutscens. Nothing but Keyblade wielders please Nomura.