ChosenHero 0 Posted September 9, 2012 So, why did he even fail the MOM? I understand that he chased after the dreams of Riku, Kairi, Terra, and Aqua but he thought the Organization was putting stuff into his head. So when Riku kept calling out to him, maybe he didn't hear it or thought it was a trick. I just don't get why being used by YX against his will counts as him giving in to the darkness. It wasn't his own free will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 9, 2012 He didn't fail, Yen side just decided to make Riku a master 2 anime10121 and AntonioKHT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloakedSchemerX 1,011 Posted September 9, 2012 YX using him as he gave in to the darkness IS the problem. He was duped too easily and fell to the darkness, easily. Riku was somehow (to YX) immune to the darkness. That's why Riku didnt fail. If this was KH1 and they did the MoM it would've been the other way around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decimo 243 Posted September 9, 2012 They didn't want to let us play as Keyblade Master Sora in KH3. 1 XIIISwords reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChosenHero 0 Posted September 9, 2012 But that's Sora. He was always duped too easily because, as Ansem the Wise put it, he sees the good in people. I realize he wouldn't be a good Master because he never had any encounters with Darkness, but he obviously has a part of Vanitas in his heart since he has Ven. I just think that it was a bit harsh on Sora. Granted, they almost lost the most powerful Keyblade Wielder before this game, so I'd imagine Yen Sid was a bit pissed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 9, 2012 Yen Sid states why after they return. Also, the game is about Riku. 1 AntonioKHT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XIIISwords 1,059 Posted September 9, 2012 He didn't fail, Yen side just decided to make Riku a master If I'm not mistaken, Nomura said in an interview that the MoM exam didn't have to have one person winning and one person losing, like Terra's and Aqua's. It seems to be just coincidence that only one person has won each time. So Riku being a Master over Sora can't be the answer. Maybe it was Nomura's way of separating Riku from Sora. Having Riku in a position as a Master would have him doing his own agenda while Sora tries to save the world again. Riku can now do important Master stuff (whatever that is) and now has a new goal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 9, 2012 Actually..Yen sid said just open the seven keyholes of sleep and Return....nothing more...he never warned Sora that Organization XIII is luring him to TWTNW YX and Xemnas wasn't part of the exam after all and the exam supposed to be canceled right after they noticed Xehanort's presence.But basicly Yen Sid decide to pull an Eraqus on Sora and be dick with him. But hey...Does the master rank even matter anymore???? except of one secret your master will tell you...there is nothing special about being a master Sora defeated two incarnations of Xehanort(who was a keyblade master) He unlocked keyholes and saved worlds more than any master in the Series. Sora doesn't need the Stupid Master rank to kick Xehanort's ass. Actually.Sora left after KH3D not to retake the stupid test.He said there is something he needs to do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) He made Riku master because he made another trip to the dream realm (the name slips my mind). He actually says that right before naming Riku. This is undoubtably not the sole reasoning behind it, but the simplest way to put it. Yen Sid also never said Sora failed, he did say they both deserve to become masters, but noted that only one of them made a return to the dream realm and saved a friend. The rank and title is not what's important in KH3D, and I have no idea why people are so focused on it. The idea behind taking the exam was more to get the power they needed (which are not tied to becoming a Keyblade Master) and learning to properly use the keyblade (like a master) by unlocking the sleeping world's keyholes and going through the trials to do so. Edited September 9, 2012 by Silent Fantasy 1 Pyrrha Nikos reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) YX using him as he gave in to the darkness IS the problem. He was duped too easily and fell to the darkness, easily. Riku was somehow (to YX) immune to the darkness. That's why Riku didnt fail. If this was KH1 and they did the MoM it would've been the other way around. Just for the record Yen sid was also duped by Master Xehanort so how was Sora supposed to figure that he was being mislead XDDD. Riku went the extra mile in this case which is why he got the title. Edited September 9, 2012 by devereauxr 1 Xail reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nafees Rahman 35 Posted September 9, 2012 So, why did he even fail the MOM? I understand that he chased after the dreams of Riku, Kairi, Terra, and Aqua but he thought the Organization was putting stuff into his head. So when Riku kept calling out to him, maybe he didn't hear it or thought it was a trick. I just don't get why being used by YX against his will counts as him giving in to the darkness. It wasn't his own free will. Riku went into soras dream AGAIN AND BEAT VENTUS Well sorta ventus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HikariYami 354 Posted September 9, 2012 Sora doesn't even need the title because he is Sora. Master Sora doesn't even sound right. This game was about Riku ft. Sora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xoblivionx13 1,133 Posted September 9, 2012 Though he didn't mean to, Sora fell into (I guess) darkness. He was easily lead into deeper sleep and Riku had to go back in the realm of sleep and save him after he had just got out. Riku had to battle the dark figure in Sora's heart in order for him to wake up. However, Yen Sid didn't necessarily fail Sora, he just named Riku a Master because he was able to save Sora from sleep. Besides Sora has already proven himself in previous games....he beat Ansem SoD, Xemnas, and the members of Organization XIII as well as saved Karir, Riku, and most of the worlds. Then again the idea of the journey was to obtain a power they previously lacked in order to beat Xehanort in the final showdown which I think they both achieved. Oh well, they're both awesome and are powerful enough to be Masters and kick Xehanort's butt in the next game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caity 3,946 Posted September 9, 2012 A true master wouldn't so easily succumb to the darkness. He has to build a resistance otherwise he could so easily be taken over again when the real battle happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keystrike 145 Posted September 9, 2012 If I recall, Yen Sid told Sora and Riku that their exam was to unlock the seven keyholes of sleep and return safely to his tower. Sora did not accomplish the latter and Riku had to save him hence Yen Sids line: "However, one of you braved the realm of sleep again to unlock the final keyhole and save a friend." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axtwyt 500 Posted September 9, 2012 Sora failed to become a Master because he was unable to exit the Realm of Sleep by himself. However, he did gain the power of the Sleeping Keyholes as he did seal all seven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChosenHero 0 Posted September 9, 2012 I just thought only because Riku went into the Realm of Sleep again wasn't a very good reason. Considering all Sora's done, I would think they'd both be Masters. I actually thought Sora was gonna keep Ven's Keyblade Armor or at least get some of his own. I honestly love the Keyblade Armor. Yes, since you have Gummi Ships, they aren't necessary, but who cares? They look awesome and aren't covered in zippers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 10, 2012 Actually.Sora left after KH3D not to retake the stupid test.He said there is something he needs to do What? No he didn't Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 10, 2012 A true master wouldn't so easily succumb to the darkness. He has to build a resistance otherwise he could so easily be taken over again when the real battle happens. Not really handling darkness has nothing to do with being a Master. Only Master Eraqus was creating the stigma that it need to be controlled and pushed aside. Darkness doesn't have to be a bad thing Riku is proof of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted September 10, 2012 I'v seen alot of people basically repeating me and others, and see that people are throwing questions and therories out there that were already said to be false or irrelevant. Read all post before posting your own. Keeps things from getting tedious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 10, 2012 I'v seen alot of people basically repeating me and others, and see that people are throwing questions and therories out there that were already said to be false or irrelevant. Read all post before posting your own. Keeps things from getting tedious. Welcome to kh13 - _ - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 10, 2012 What? No he didn't he said he got some unfinished business before the credits roll...hell the name of the cutscene in the theater is unfinished business he didn't leave to retake the test because there is no point in taking it again.....what,is he going to open the same seven keyholes and comeback?????really???? the Master Rank didn't matter before and it won't matter now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 10, 2012 he said he got some unfinished business before the credits roll...hell the name of the cutscene in the theater is unfinished business he didn't leave to retake the test because there is no point in taking it again.....what,is he going to open the same seven keyholes and comeback?????really???? the Master Rank didn't matter before and it won't matter now The unfinished business is the Dream Eaters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 10, 2012 The unfinished business is the Dream Eaters No they aren't...so he took a very long time(as mentioned by Donald & Goofy) just to say thank you to the dream eaters????? are you serious He already saw Roxas,Xion.Namine,Terra,Aqua,Ven and you just want him to open the seven keyholes again. The unfinished business he talked about( and never tell anybody) is what he learned during his time in TWTNW about the hearts tied to him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 10, 2012 No they aren't...so he took a very long time(as mentioned by Donald & Goofy) just to say thank you to the dream eaters????? are you serious He already saw Roxas,Xion.Namine,Terra,Aqua,Ven and you just want him to open the seven keyholes again. The unfinished business he talked about( and never tell anybody) is what he learned during his time in TWTNW about the hearts tied to him It's Dream Eaters http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smiley-neutral.png Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
