Organization 13 Members Heartless?

[Caity 3,946]

I was just thinking over how an original being is brought back by both the heartless and nobody being destroyed.

I think it's easy to conclude that the organizations heartless would have been killed by a keyblade bearer, most likely Sora, however Riku and Mickey could have fought an unseen boss in their absence (sure we'll find out later) along with Roxas.

 

Here are the heartless (I just went for bosses, cause a strong heartless wouldn't be duplicated like the common ones) that I think each organization member may be:

 

Xemnas Xehanort

Obviously

 

Xigbar Dark Thorn

(I've actually forgotten why choose this now) I think my decision may have been based on it's ability to turn invisible (manipulating space)

 

 

Xaldin Windstorm

Decision was based on his wind abilities. I had also thought Leechgrave, cause it has multiple tentaclaws to get rid off, like his numerous lances.

 

Vexen Blizzard Lord

Decision based on his ice abilities, far as I know there's not scientist heartless.

 

Lexaeus Ground Shaker

Decision based on his earth powers and immense strength.

 

Zexion (Was unable to find a heartless that I thought matched it well, but

I think he shares similarities with the Unversed Mimic Master.)

 

Saix Ruler of the Sky

I failed to find a (boss) heartless that had to power of the moon.

 

Axel Vocalord (or Scorchiny Sphere)

Decision based on his fire elemental attacks, I would say Vocalord more so than Scorchiny Sphere.

 

Demyx Again, I couldn't find a heartless that I thought matched it well, but

I think he shares similarities with the Unversed Symphony Master)

 

Luxord Trick Master

 

 

Marluxia Grim Reaper

Based on the fact they both use a sythe. I originally thought the Grim Reaper would suit Saix, seeing as he goes "berserk" in the moonlight and the Grim Reaper was affected by the Aztec Curse, which took effect in the moonlight. However I couldn't find anything that could then possibly be matched with Marluxia.

 

Larxene Storm Rider(or blitz sphere)

Decision was based on their elemental powers, Thunder.

 

Roxas N/A

His unique birth, he only had a heartless for a few moments.

 

 

Feel free to suggest any other heartless you think the organization members could be, disagree with my thoughts, agree, or just randomly talk about banana(I placed this in this section due to the general section, I can't really see it fitting anywhere else, obviously only a future game will confirm anything of the Org's heartless but no harm in guessing)

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Just to let you know , Nomura said most of the org members had shadow heartless and such bc they were pretty decent normal human beings..Since the more darkness you have the stronger the heartless most members didnt have boss level heartless.

[VanitasTheBest 196]

I like the ideas O: The Ground Shaker suits Lexaeus

 

Just to let you know , Nomura said most of the org members had shadow heartless and such bc they were pretty decent normal human beings..Since the more darkness you have the stronger the heartless most members didnt have boss level heartless.

 

He said they PROBABLY had ~ It's nothing you should take for real

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I like the ideas O: The Ground Shaker suits Lexaeus

 

 

 

He said they PROBABLY had ~ It's nothing you should take for real

 

It doesnt take away the meaning of what he said either . He was telling us MOST of them didnt have strong heartless.

[teh lazy prince Xylek 1,559]

i want my heartless to be darkside

[Queen Tery 4,591]

I always kind of thought that Axel's heartless could've been the Trickmaster from Wonderland.

[VanitasTheBest 196]

It doesnt take away the meaning of what he said either . He was telling us MOST of them didnt have strong heartless.

 

He didn't say "Most of them had weak Heartless" ... He just did note in an Interview they could had weak Heartless ... He NEVER determined something like that

Edited September 6, 2012 by VanitasTheBest

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

He didn't say "Most of them had weak Heartless" ... He just did note in an Interview they could had weak Heartless ... He NEVER determined something like that

 

He was asked straight up about the organizations heartless . He said mentioning who they were exactly wasnt important bc most had weak heartless due to being decent human beings before they lost their hearts .

[VanitasTheBest 196]

He was asked straight up about the organizations heartless . He said mentioning who they were exactly wasnt important bc most had weak heartless due to being decent human beings before they lost their hearts .

 

He never determined it

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

He never determined it

 

I never said he went down a list of every member determining everyones heartless.I'm saying he said they werent important bc ' they are probably somewhere but not that great of a heartless " HIS EXACT WORDS

[Shana09 5,769]

Nice but...

It was said first the heartless was supposed to be killed then the nobodies in order for them to resurrect from their former selves?

And most of the people you listed died before the "heartless" that Sora/etc. killed?

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

He never determined it

 

If the XIII Organization are Nobodies, does that mean their Heartless are somewhere, too?

 

They're probably somewhere but not that great of a Heartless.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

 

Besides Xehanort, did the other 5 disciples that turned into Heartless disappeared?

Not really disappear but more like they’re somewhere else as normal Heartless. Xehanort was about the only one who was able to keep a human form.

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/943347-kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep/57971099

Attention customers read the interviews that is all.

 

 

 

 

I never said he went down a list of every member determining everyones heartless.I'm saying he said they werent important bc ' they are probably somewhere but not that great of a heartless " HIS EXACT WORDS

 

This is exactly correct Edited September 6, 2012 by devereauxr

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

If the XIII Organization are Nobodies, does that mean their Heartless are somewhere, too?

 

They're probably somewhere but not that great of a Heartless.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

 

Attention customers read the interviews that is all.

 

 

 

 

This is exactly correct

 

 

Yep and theres another interview where hes also talking about the apprentices heartless . We need to find that too !

[teh lazy prince Xylek 1,559]

wooo lea is on fire

[VanitasTheBest 196]

If the XIII Organization are Nobodies, does that mean their Heartless are somewhere, too?

 

They're probably somewhere but not that great of a Heartless.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

 

Attention customers read the interviews that is all.

 

Then read it with attention ~ It's still not determined

 

Nice but...

It was said first the heartless was supposed to be killed then the nobodies in order for them to resurrect from their former selves?

And most of the people you listed died before the "heartless" that Sora/etc. killed?

 

I thought the order is unimportant, just like 'kill heartless and nobody to make the real Person appear again' o.o

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Then read it with attention ~ It's still not determined

 

 

 

I thought the order is unimportant, just like 'kill heartless and nobody to make the real Person appear again' o.o

 

Besides Xehanort, did the other 5 disciples that turned into Heartless disappeared?

Not really disappear but more like they’re somewhere else as normal Heartless. Xehanort was about the only one who was able to keep a human form.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

Attention customers read the interviews that is all.

Edited September 6, 2012 by devereauxr

[Shana09 5,769]

I thought the order is unimportant, just like 'kill heartless and nobody to make the real Person appear again' o.o

 

It's important ._.

That's how they revive?

How is that not important?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Besides Xehanort, did the other 5 disciples that turned into Heartless disappeared?

Not really disappear but more like they’re somewhere else as normal Heartless. Xehanort was about the only one who was able to keep a human form.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

Attention customers read the interviews that is all.

 

 

Yep another example of where Nomura says it XDDDDD

 

wooo lea is on fire

 

wooo lea is on fire

 

If i wasnt quota i'd like that XDDDD

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I thought the order is unimportant, just like 'kill heartless and nobody to make the real Person appear again' o.o

 

When the Heartless are defeated, what becomes of the stolen hearts? Also, when members of Organization XIII and other Nobodies are defeated, do they return to their original form?

 

When Heartless are defeated, essentially the owner's hearts are rejoined with their once extinguished body, whichever world it may be on. As for the whereabouts of hearts in KHII that turn up, this time they remarkably went to the Organization (there is a foot note here that says "In Kingdom Hearts II after Heartless were defeated, the many hearts were absorbed by the Kingdom Hearts of "people's hearts"). However, in the rare case that the body changed into a Nobody, when there is no container for the heart it resorts to a state of suspension.

In the case of a Nobody being defeated, it's a little more complicated. If the above mentioned hearts are liberated, they return to their original form. However, if the heart is still stolen by the Heartless, the Nobody's body is swallowed by darkness. If somewhere in the world their hearts are taken back, perhaps they might be able to return to their original human form.

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/943347-kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep/57971099

READ THE INTERVIEWS PLEASE

Edited September 6, 2012 by devereauxr

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

I've actually done this since KHII, trying to decide what works best. I had two requirements, they ad to be boss-level heartless, and they had to only appear once.

Xemnas- Ansem

Obvious

Xigbar- Phantom Tail

Warps around

Dilan- Kurt Zisa

he creates a shield and wields multiple weapons, there's more than one windstorm

Vexen- Avalanche or Blizzard Lord

Ice, duh

Lexaeus- Infernal Engine or Antlion

I thought groundshaker at first, but according to your journal it's a summation of all the hallucination Scars

Zexion- Crimson Prankster

Because it crates/ heals it's duplicate or something... really wish the mimic master were a heartless

Saïx- Ruler of the Sky

It gets mad, and needs to be punched in the face

Axel- Trickmaster or Volcano Lord

FIRE!

Demyx- Wavecrest or Blizzard Lord

Der water

Luxord- Phantom

His doom time-related ability

Marluxia Grim Reaper or Leech Grave

His third form has an Angel of Death behind him, but the leech grave is some sort of evil plant demon

Larxene- Pot Centipede

Um... it uses lightning and has antennae

Roxas- Shadow

[Caity 3,946]

I've actually done this since KHII, trying to decide what works best. I had two requirements, they ad to be boss-level heartless, and they had to only appear once.

Xemnas- Ansem

Obvious

Xigbar- Phantom Tail

Warps around

Dilan- Kurt Zisa

he creates a shield and wields multiple weapons, there's more than one windstorm

Vexen- Avalanche or Blizzard Lord

Ice, duh

Lexaeus- Infernal Engine or Antlion

I thought groundshaker at first, but according to your journal it's a summation of all the hallucination Scars

Zexion- Crimson Prankster

Because it crates/ heals it's duplicate or something... really wish the mimic master were a heartless

Saïx- Ruler of the Sky

It gets mad, and needs to be punched in the face

Axel- Trickmaster or Volcano Lord

FIRE!

Demyx- Wavecrest or Blizzard Lord

Der water

Luxord- Phantom

His doom time-related ability

Marluxia Grim Reaper or Leech Grave

His third form has an Angel of Death behind him, but the leech grave is some sort of evil plant demon

Larxene- Pot Centipede

Um... it uses lightning and has antennae

Roxas- Shadow

 

Good point about Leechgrave, it is actually much better suited to Marluxia than Xaldin like I said, I never even thought about it being a plant

 

Someone else I know says they thought Kurt Zisa would be Lexaeus, I however have never found this secret boss so I didn't know his fighting style or appearance o.o

[Caity 3,946]

Just to let you know , Nomura said most of the org members had shadow heartless and such bc they were pretty decent normal human beings..Since the more darkness you have the stronger the heartless most members didnt have boss level heartless.

 

Oh o.o I didn't know this, I tried to research it myself and came up blank so decided to make this topic so people could discuss and nominate who they thought it could be. The reason I only looked for Boss Heartless was 'cause Xehanort (apprentice) only had one unique heartless (Xehanort, heartless), and I assumed it'd be the same for the other members, and boss' were the only heartless I could think of that don't repawn and have multiple clones.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

Kurt Zisa

He creates a magic shield and shuts off your magic, you hit him, he loses the shield, do some damage, and then repeat.

It's more exciting then that, but that's about it.

[Caity 3,946]

If the XIII Organization are Nobodies, does that mean their Heartless are somewhere, too?

 

They're probably somewhere but not that great of a Heartless.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

 

Besides Xehanort, did the other 5 disciples that turned into Heartless disappeared?

Not really disappear but more like they’re somewhere else as normal Heartless. Xehanort was about the only one who was able to keep a human form.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....-sleep/57971099

Attention customers read the interviews that is all.

 

 

 

 

This is exactly correct

 

Couldn't "normal" heartless still count as the boss, as he just said they didn't have human form. I've never seen a human that looks like any heartless I mentioned.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

Perhaps the Organization members turned into the color-music style heartless. They are weaker, yet still have an elemental inclination one could probably connect to them.