KH3D Why did they remodeled Ansem's face|not much spoilers|

[Dio Brando 5,810]

well...if any of you had noticed......the model of Ansem's face in KH3D has been slightly changed ....I know this is a tiny little detail and I'm not nitpicking here.....but the old model was good....why change it????

 

 

here is a picture for Ansem in KH1

 

 

and here are some pictures for ansem in KH3D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it's not a big deal and I know I look like I'm nitpicking......but the didn't need to change it...actually ...there is no reason for changing it

[Hei 3,233]

Just to keep the model updated, probably has more polygons than the Kh 1 model.

[Rob 5,571]

We......don't......know.

[coolwings 1,546]

 

 

 

 

 

 

ANSEM IS TEABAGGING RIKU O.O

[hatok 6,413]

They improved all of the model's fidelity after KH1

[Dio Brando 5,810]

but in Re:Chain of Memories...Ansem still have his old Model from KH1 but with a higher resulotion

 

So why they decide to remodel his face instead of using the original model

[MrSanderss 80]

Old model was too good for Epcar!

[Dio Brando 5,810]

dude...I really miss Billy Zane(if I spelled the name right).,...his performance as Ansem was fantastic......I wonder why Square didn't hire him again or if he is even alive now

[JTD95 1,107]

 

The new face pisses me off. This dude isn't Ansem anymore. He's just some random Xehanort they threw in for KH3D.

He's face didn't need an update. And it should be easy to updated a 3D model and upgrade the texture to make the character look better without giving the character an entirely new texture. This isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade.

 

If they changed his face to look more like Terra's well then, they shouldn't have. Ansem the Seeker of Darkness was originally a brown robe. That was his Heartless form. He didn't acquire a human form before after he had possessed Riku. While possessing Riku, Ansem changed Riku's body into something more suitable for himself. He could change Riku's body into whatever he'd like it to look like, which means there is no reason for him to look like Terra when Ansem decided his own appearance.

 

Xemnas face was also slightly redesigned but not nearly as bad as Ansem. Xemnas still looks like what he did in KH2. It's just a few scenes here and there where something looks off with his face.

 

 

Here's a good update. They should've just continued with that:

 

 

 

Just to keep the model updated, probably has more polygons than the Kh 1 model.

 

Giving a character more polygons still doesn't explain why they created an entirely new texture for the character.

 

They improved all of the model's fidelity after KH1

 

Correct. If you compare the Ansem from KH1 and the Ansem from Re:Com one can notice that the Re:Com version has better textures. This was a good update.

However, If you compare the Ansem from Re:Com and the Ansem from KH3D you'll notice that the texture was not made even better than what it was. Ansem was given a new texture.

 

An unnecessary change.

[Master Keeper 687]

I think it's because of the power of both consoles, or maybe they found out that they made him very black in KH1

[Imagination in Progress 30]

 

The new face pisses me off. This dude isn't Ansem anymore. He's just some random Xehanort they threw in for KH3D.

He's face didn't need an update. And it should be easy to updated a 3D model and upgrade the texture to make the character look better without giving the character an entirely new texture. This isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade.

 

If they changed his face to look more like Terra's well then, they shouldn't have. Ansem the Seeker of Darkness was originally a brown robe. That was his Heartless form. He didn't acquire a human form before after he had possessed Riku. While possessing Riku, Ansem changed Riku's body into something more suitable for himself. He could change Riku's body into whatever he'd like it to look like, which means there is no reason for him to look like Terra when Ansem decided his own appearance.

 

 

That's exactly what they did. Obviously, when KH1 was released, Nomura and Square did not know what Terra's character would look like, or whether there would even be a Terra. At the time, they were designing Xemnas' character, but he could afford to appear slightly different, because the connections were still unclear.

[JTD95 1,107]

That's exactly what they did. Obviously, when KH1 was released, Nomura and Square did not know what Terra's character would look like, or whether there would even be a Terra. At the time, they were designing Xemnas' character, but he could afford to appear slightly different, because the connections were still unclear.

 

Ansem chose his own appearance. He didn't need to look like Terra.

[Imagination in Progress 30]

Ansem chose his own appearance. He didn't need to look like Terra.

 

Casting away his body, when he traveled through time to reach Young Xehanort, doesn't mean he can change his own psychical appearance (or shape-shift); Ansem SoD was able to enter peoples' hearts who had given into darkness. That is why he entered Riku's body and could temporarily appear as him in KH1, during his second battle with Sora in Hollow Bastion. By no means, is Ansem, SoD a shape-shifter. His appearance is that of Master Xehanort, only younger.

[JTD95 1,107]

Casting away his body, when he traveled through time to reach Young Xehanort, doesn't mean he can change his own psychical appearance (or shape-shift); Ansem SoD was able to enter peoples' hearts who had given into darkness. That is why he entered Riku's body and could temporarily appear as him in KH1, during his second battle with Sora in Hollow Bastion. By no means, is Ansem, SoD a shape-shifter. His appearance is that of Master Xehanort, only younger.

 

Ansem stole Riku's body and shaped it into something more suitable for himself. The form Ansem is most known for is Xehanort's heart + Riku's body.

[Caity 3,946]

It's probably just the better graphics in newer technology making his face look more realistic/smoother?

Tbh I can't really see a difference...

 

EDIT: Can see the difference in JTD95's photo, they've definitely gave him more of Terra's characteristics (lips, thinner eyes, his nose shape, sticky-out hair)

Edited September 1, 2012 by Caity Raindrop

[VanitasTheBest 196]

Most of the improvements happened after KH2 ... We can see it clearly at Riku and Roxas in KH2 and KH2FM, there are quite the differences

 

Also Sora's KH1 Form changed o.o Nobody cares about that? Look at him in KH1, than Days (Xion appeared as him) and than in KH3D ... There are changes and the hell .... I LIKE THEM! I don't like Sora, but I like his face

 

Ansem chose his own appearance. He didn't need to look like Terra.

 

Ansem, SoD has still a connection to Terra we don't know yet. Look at his eyes. These aren't the eyes of Master Xehanort ~ Since KH1 he had orange eyes, not yellow. There are only Two other Persons with orange-like eyes: Xemnas and Apprentice Xehanort after he "lost" his memories. (Watch the Secret Ending of BbS, the scene where Braig asks if he is Terra.)

 

It's only natural that they make these changes o: They didn't just improve the faces and textures, they also improved their own engines and this whole stuff I can just appreciate the new faces, they look so full of emotion ... When I'm looking at Xemnas and Roxas I see the dramatic with their appearances... Xemnas (Terra) and Roxas (Ven) are about to fight q.q That would have been so flashing!

[JTD95 1,107]

Also Sora's KH1 Form changed o.o Nobody cares about that? Look at him in KH1, than Days (Xion appeared as him) and than in KH3D ... There are changes and the hell .... I LIKE THEM! I don't like Sora, but I like his face

 

I noticed the differences between KH1 Sora and KH1 Sora in other games. I don't like the change there either but that at least happened pretty early on. The changes in Ansem's face happened ten years after using the same face. I'm not against improving the characters texture but, do it the right way. There are no improvements here. He has just as much expressions with this texture as his previous texture. The texture on his face is different. The 3D model itself; it's hard to tell but I doubt there are any significant difference there from his 3D model in the KH BbS FM secret ending.

 

 

Ansem, SoD has still a connection to Terra we don't know yet. Look at his eyes. These aren't the eyes of Master Xehanort ~ Since KH1 he had orange eyes, not yellow. There are only Two other Persons with orange-like eyes: Xemnas and Apprentice Xehanort after he "lost" his memories. (Watch the Secret Ending of BbS, the scene where Braig asks if he is Terra.)

 

Ansem's connection to Terra is that he's the Heartless of Terra-Xehanort. I don't understand what this unknown connection you're referring to is.

And Ansem and Xemnas are the only once to have orange eyes. Terra-Xehanort had yellow eyes and during his time as Ansem the Wise's apprentice he had brown eyes.

Also, the orange eyes. What does they have to do with Ansem's new texture?

 

It's only natural that they make these changes o: They didn't just improve the faces and textures, they also improved their own engines and this whole stuff I can just appreciate the new faces, they look so full of emotion

Ansem has just as much emotions in KH3D as he had in Re:Chain of Memories. In my opinion he looks bland and constantly angry.

[VanitasTheBest 196]

Ansem's connection to Terra is that he's the Heartless of Terra-Xehanort. I don't understand what this unknown connection you're referring to is.

And Ansem and Xemnas are the only once to have orange eyes. Terra-Xehanort had yellow eyes and during his time as Ansem the Wise's apprentice he had brown eyes.

Also, the orange eyes. What does they have to do with Ansem's new texture?

 

Didn't you ever asked yourself where Terras Heart is and how they want to bring Terra back? ~ Maybe Ansem and Xemnas are important for that. We don't know it yet, so it may be a "Unknown connection" between Ansem/Xemnas and Terra, and if it's true, than Ansem had to look like Terra ~ And Like xehanort too o.o

It just came into my mind now There is already a reason. You said it yourself, he is the Heartless of Terra-Xehanort, so he had to look like Terra AND Xehanort ~ This means they had to adjust Ansems appearance o: So it was necessary, wasn't it?

 

And I'm sure Terra-Xehanorts eyes are orange-like >_> Maybe a brown-orange color ... >_>

 

Ansem has just as much emotions in KH3D as he had in Re:Chain of Memories.

 

@.@

[Terranort9406 288]

I dont mind the change he looks more kh2ish, the only model that bugs me its the new aqua's model in kh3d(I notice something in part of her hair but her clothes looks more pulished) and birth by sleep(her costume and hair in the final ver. of the game I prefer her TGS 2008 model)

 

That's why I made this:

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=m09ceOlkoZo&feature=plcp

Edited September 1, 2012 by Terranort9406

[Speed 37]

I'm thinking that they just changed it just because it's on the 3DS. Playing several games on 3DS like Super Mario 3d Land shows that they make face textures looks softer and more rounded to make it easier to view in 3d. If my logic is correct, we'll see yet another face texture when we see KH3 on whatever they decide to release it on, most likely a home console with great graphical power.

[schlosserm 8]

i prefer the new face anyways...

[Farrac 27]

They also made a new face for Master Xehanort, here, look at it:

 

 

 

 

 

Disturbing, isnt it?

Edited September 2, 2012 by Farrac

[Epic KH Fan_13 64]

Probably because they wanted to make him more like Terra(in kh1 they didin't know how would terra look or even that they will make him http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.png )

Edited September 3, 2012 by Epic KH Fan_13

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I don't mind the changes for Sora & Aqua & even Riku

 

but Ansem Seeker of Darkness didn't need any change at all.

 

in fact,the new change made him look way different than Terra if their goal was to make Ansem look like him

 

 

the only reason I have in my mind(a non-sensical one)

 

is that so he can use his troll face on you in that ABSOLUTELY RIDICULUSLY HARD BOSS BATTLE against him

[Nafees Rahman 35]

I don't mind the changes for Sora & Aqua & even Riku

 

but Ansem Seeker of Darkness didn't need any change at all.

 

in fact,the new change made him look way different than Terra if their goal was to make Ansem look like him

 

 

the only reason I have in my mind(a non-sensical one)

 

is that so he can use his troll face on you in that ABSOLUTELY RIDICULUSLY HARD BOSS BATTLE against him

 

First off his boss battle is easy if you get dark barrier and freaking dark roll and second I dont care about his model they changed it because the 3d makes thing look more popping out or it adds more dimensions the model looks fine to me I dont care he looks like terra he barely does and even if he does he might have just modeled himself over young xehanort lets not complain dudes