Dracozombie 4,554 Posted August 31, 2012 Even though it's a fact only I and maybe 2.5 other people on the internet will ever support this club, I felt I'll make it, anyway. This is for the select few people who, like me, have a distaste for shipping in the Kingdom Hearts fandom. Shipping's everywhere in every fandom, but KH is among the worst I've ever seen. Maybe you just don't like most of the pairings. Or maybe you support a few of them, but you're just so sick of the prevalence of it--the shipping wars, the need for every character to be paired up, the assumption that no dynamic is ever, truly meaningful unless kissing's involved--that you've decided to give the practice the middle finger, even if only temporary. It'd be nice to read fanfics with my favorite characters that didn't insist on shipping them, like there's no point to being close if they're not going at it like rabid dogs. It'd also be nice to read fics that didn't revolve around romance somehow. Question to fanfic readers and writers: how often do you see plots where romance takes a back seat to the story? Not that many in comparison, especially with all the high school AUs that take away everything remotely interesting about the source material and butcher the characters into unrecognizable shadows of their canon selves, in order to get them paired together. (Okay, so all fandoms in existence do the high school thing, but KH is particularly bad about it. I don't have any problem with it at all, I do it myself, but c'mon people! You an have a KH high school AU and have a story that centers around something else and still keep the characters' personalities as intact as you can AND find a way to include Disney, hearts, magic, and other things that make the franchise what it is. But my point is that most fanfic "plots" are nothing more than framing devices to get one's pairing of choice together, and high school AUs just make it easier to do that.) *ahem* So yeah, to the 2.5 people who'd ever join this club, tell me your bad experiences with KH shipping. We can also watch the ensuing shitstorm that this thread will cause. 14 heyitsdeven, _The Door To Light_, Xail and 11 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightningXIII 310 Posted August 31, 2012 I agree! I only actually ship Sokai but, I think the other ships are all nonsense, especially yaoi. 3 Pyrrha Nikos, heyitsdeven and replika13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689 Posted August 31, 2012 I've had bad experiences with AkuRoku fangirls. 2 _The Door To Light_ and Lexa Infinite reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultima Spark 753 Posted August 31, 2012 I've had bad experiences with AkuRoku fangirls. This. I adore their friendship, but spinning it into yaoi...no, just...no. 9 TheApprenticeofKingMickey, _The Door To Light_, replika13 and 6 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oniaku 280 Posted August 31, 2012 Explain to me what "shipping" is. I've never heard this term used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozombie 4,554 Posted August 31, 2012 Explain to me what "shipping" is. I've never heard this term used. Rooting for fictional romance to happen. Playing matchmaker with characters, pretty much. And it's all that matters to a great part of the fandom. 3 OkashiraKenrex, LightningXIII and _The Door To Light_ reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miku Hatsune 636 Posted August 31, 2012 i shipped AkuRoku for a while (and i still kind of do), but sheesh... it's just becoming redundant to me now i'm almost certain it's the cancerous fandumb of bumbling dumbass fangirls that are murdering it for me. deep down, it'll always be a ship of mine, but it's dying down now. Sora/Kairi, to put it bluntly, firetrucking annoys me i don't know why it just does ok nothing against those who like it, of course, it's just a ridiculous pairing to me like it's so cheesy and cookie-cutter that it makes me want to puke another shounen-ai pairing that is shit-tastic would be SoRiku; which again, i like and all, but THOSE FANGIRLS so far, i have only a few main ships remaining... Roxas/Olette (idk they're kawaii) Zemyx (i'm not sorry) Terra/Aqua yeah but i'm not against shipping. people can ship what they want. i don't firetrucking care what they do. bad fanfiction, bad fanart, and bad fans in general will always exist, and by pointing out their flaws (even to their faces in some instances) won't change their 13-year-old girl mentality of everything. they have god-awful High School AU's, yes. they have the writing talent of my asscheeks, yes. and they are, quite possibly, in the top 5 worst fandoms of all time (i'd rank them at 3 or 4 - behind Homestuck, Naruto, Hetalia, and maaaaybe Vocaloid). but they won't change so let them do as they please. i usually just ignore them and hope they'll leave me alone. /phew 4 Ruran, _The Door To Light_, TheApprenticeofKingMickey and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oniaku 280 Posted August 31, 2012 I only do this in fanfics if they are both characters i made myself. And, I am against this otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted August 31, 2012 I agree! The ridiculous shipping is one of the KH fandom's worst qualities. Especially the obsessive, crazy shippers who give the fandom as a whole a bad name. Enough is enough. Unfortunately, it will probably never go away or get better. Heck, with each new character added to the game, it gets worse. 7 AnHeiressofaSOLDIER, Lexa Infinite, OkashiraKenrex and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayfinder823 477 Posted August 31, 2012 I think we can almost all agree, that the worst is when fanfiction writers give Sora a sex change, and then pair him (or I guess it'd be called, an "it") with Riku or Roxas, or whatever the heck they do. Seriously--that's awkward for everybody! 2 Lexa Infinite and OkashiraKenrex reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miku Hatsune 636 Posted August 31, 2012 I think we can almost all agree, that the worst is when fanfiction writers give Sora a sex change, and then pair him (or I guess it'd be called, an "it") with Riku or Roxas, or whatever the heck they do. Seriously--that's awkward for everybody! um i hope you mean 'genderbending' because that happens often i have never read a fanfic where sora literally undergoes a full sex-change operation just to get with riku or roxas (thank goodness) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyitsdeven 131 Posted August 31, 2012 OMG YES I AGREE I think they should all stay best friends...relationships would just ruin everything. I mean, the whole story is based off of friendship. The whole Axel & Roxas thing makes me cringe the most. 3 LightningXIII, Dracozombie and Lexa Infinite reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozombie 4,554 Posted August 31, 2012 OMG YES I AGREE I think they should all stay best friends...relationships would just ruin everything. I mean, the whole story is based off of friendship. The whole Axel & Roxas thing makes me cringe the most. I love you (not in that way). Agreed, Kingdom Hearts is all about friendship. People insisting on making their relationships romantic pretty much spits in the face of that theme. In a way, it's almost insulting to the characters' bonds with each other. 7 _The Door To Light_, OkashiraKenrex, LightningXIII and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightningXIII 310 Posted August 31, 2012 Most KH fangirls just ruin the series by insisting that it is a romantic implement, not just friendship. And I'm just here like "in your dreams!" Shipping ruins the series. KH itself is great, but the fandom kinda sucks, all because of those crazy fangirls. No offense, but, it's true. 2 AntonioKHT and replika13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Ill join in. I just hate shipping and nonsense relationships. Especially yaoi! Shipping makes it look like people HAF to date with each other... gee Edited August 31, 2012 by replika13 1 LightningXIII reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OkashiraKenrex 251 Posted August 31, 2012 Sure i read some for fun,but it would't kill them if they calmed down a bit.I wish i had half the friendship they have in KH.and don't get me started with the mpregs......eewww also if they do shipping of opposite gender,they should do it more realistic.Thats all i have to say.Good Day 1 LightningXIII reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted August 31, 2012 Woot anti-shipping! The people that ship are honestly missing the point of KH. It's a wonderful story about friendship. The thing that makes it even stupider is that these people have nothing to base their ships on other than silly quotes they take out of context, like Axel saying "He made me feel like I had a heart". He's a NOBODY! It's not the same as if I said it to another person. Oh and that brings me to the yaoi fangirls! What kind of sick people are they?! Axel is in his mid 20s and Roxas is 15. WTH?! And apparently crying for your best friend you haven't seen for a year who could possibly be lost forever makes Sora gay too. No! If you think that then I feel sorry for whatever friendship you think you and your friends have. And as I side note there's this user on here who's sig is a pic of Axel and Saix kissing and it's just...please... If you wanna write some nice, good story telling fanfics then fine but no need to act all high and mighty like what you ship is the truth or constantly make it so only romance matters. Sora x Kairi is the only thing we can truly ship for based on what we see in KH1 and 2. So yeah. Anti-KH ship FTW! 6 replika13, Dracozombie, heyitsdeven and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weiss 8,279 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Definetely joining~~ Yaoi= http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.png or in other words, NO! Edited August 31, 2012 by Keysofblades Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightningXIII 310 Posted August 31, 2012 Woot anti-shipping! The people that ship are honestly missing the point of KH. It's a wonderful story about friendship. The thing that makes it even stupider is that these people have nothing to base their ships on other than silly quotes they take out of context, like Axel saying "He made me feel like I had a heart". He's a NOBODY! It's not the same as if I said it to another person. Oh and that brings me to the yaoi fangirls! What kind of sick people are they?! Axel is in his mid 20s and Roxas is 15. WTH?! And apparently crying for your best friend you haven't seen for a year who could possibly be lost forever makes Sora gay too. No! If you think that then I feel sorry for whatever friendship you think you and your friends have. And as I side note there's this user on here who's sig is a pic of Axel and Saix kissing and it's just...please... If you wanna write some nice, good story telling fanfics then fine but no need to act all high and mighty like what you ship is the truth or constantly make it so only romance matters. Sora x Kairi is the only thing we can truly ship for based on what we see in KH1 and 2. So yeah. Anti-KH ship FTW! You are my new best friend. No joke. This is the best post ever. 1 MyDixieRect reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 31, 2012 It is rediculous. As if every story needs someone hooking up. But people will do what they do, and everything I could possibly rant about has been said for me already. lol I have to agree with nearly every post thats non-shipping. And I really wish that god forsaken yoai crap would stop already. Everytime I see one, I have to question where the intelligence of the world is hiding and how remarkebly stupid the person that made the picture must be. I don't bother reading fan-fics of any kind because of issues mentioned in the OP. I'll stick to my own books and stories. 1 replika13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) I don't really care about shipping, until the fangirls/fanboys/fangenderqueers/fanetc. attacked. So far I can take AkuRoku, SoKai (god knows how, they barely even talk to each other in these past games) and SoRiku. But then they're crack pairings, which take the most distinct characters that never met and possibly never been shown or cared for come together and make a paring and it goes viral like a disease coming out of people's ovaries. One of the pairings Ven and I think Fuu (some girl in Twilight Town under Seifer's annoying gang who accuses someone over something as idiotic as stealing photos)? I don't understand what goes across their minds. Next thing you know you have Pluto and Aurora as a pairing and spreads like Malaria. Also how fangirls bicker against one another. If one goes batshit insane when she/he/hir heard someone not ship what she/he/hir ships, they go to their battle stations. The recklessly shoot their cannons of hatred at one another and enraged a 2-minute war that solves absolutely nothing and walks away angered for no reason. Edited August 31, 2012 by Shana09 3 _The Door To Light_, replika13 and AnHeiressofaSOLDIER reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnHeiressofaSOLDIER 358 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) While I have nothing against shipping characters for fun, and even love many ships myself, there comes a time where you have to be honest with yourself. For one, the only canon-ish pairing in KH is SoKai (and even that's not canon). What you have to remember with shipping is that your ships are likely to never happen. They don't make the fandom, so the fandom shouldn't just be about that for you. Shipping is supposed to a fun, added bonus that people take way too seriously, and think only their pairings are right. Pairings are opinions, and people should respect that. It's really the shipping wars (and some of the absolutely ridiculous pairings) that make me not like KH pairings too much anymore. Let's face it: KH isn't about soul mates in the slightest. It's about the love of FRIENDSHIP. So in the end, as long as we have our beloved characters and allies (and that epic storyline that is KH), that's all I really need. Nay. That's all I want, and all KH really is. Sure as Nomura said, "Imagining the scenarios that aren't mentioned however we want to," is fun, people need to remember to KEEP the fun in it, and not think the world is ending if someone doesn't like their ship or whatever. Seriously. This game is supposed to be about platonic love for other people. LOVE! Let's remember to love when we're debating with our fellow fans, people. Edited August 31, 2012 by DenizenofTwilight 6 TheApprenticeofKingMickey, _The Door To Light_, DragonMaster and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted August 31, 2012 Woot anti-shipping! The people that ship are honestly missing the point of KH. It's a wonderful story about friendship. The thing that makes it even stupider is that these people have nothing to base their ships on other than silly quotes they take out of context, like Axel saying "He made me feel like I had a heart". He's a NOBODY! It's not the same as if I said it to another person. Oh and that brings me to the yaoi fangirls! What kind of sick people are they?! Axel is in his mid 20s and Roxas is 15. WTH?! And apparently crying for your best friend you haven't seen for a year who could possibly be lost forever makes Sora gay too. No! If you think that then I feel sorry for whatever friendship you think you and your friends have. And as I side note there's this user on here who's sig is a pic of Axel and Saix kissing and it's just...please... If you wanna write some nice, good story telling fanfics then fine but no need to act all high and mighty like what you ship is the truth or constantly make it so only romance matters. Sora x Kairi is the only thing we can truly ship for based on what we see in KH1 and 2. So yeah. Anti-KH ship FTW! You said it man! You have my respects 1 MyDixieRect reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted August 31, 2012 I agree. It makes it sound like people can't be close friends without it being gay or sexual in someway. (I'm not saying anything against gays.) But people are aloud to have their fantasies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted August 31, 2012 Woot anti-shipping! The people that ship are honestly missing the point of KH. It's a wonderful story about friendship. The thing that makes it even stupider is that these people have nothing to base their ships on other than silly quotes they take out of context, like Axel saying "He made me feel like I had a heart". He's a NOBODY! It's not the same as if I said it to another person. Oh and that brings me to the yaoi fangirls! What kind of sick people are they?! Axel is in his mid 20s and Roxas is 15. WTH?! And apparently crying for your best friend you haven't seen for a year who could possibly be lost forever makes Sora gay too. No! If you think that then I feel sorry for whatever friendship you think you and your friends have. And as I side note there's this user on here who's sig is a pic of Axel and Saix kissing and it's just...please... If you wanna write some nice, good story telling fanfics then fine but no need to act all high and mighty like what you ship is the truth or constantly make it so only romance matters. Sora x Kairi is the only thing we can truly ship for based on what we see in KH1 and 2. So yeah. Anti-KH ship FTW! actually from what I heard the Sora-Riku-crying scene shows he cares more of him than Kairi, so thus its proven SoRiku is better ¬_¬ i dont like the SoKai thing, like Draco said, it entirely butchers and shit upon the friendship element this game is obsessively showing. Also about the SoKai thing and you are basing from what you seen... Yeah SoRiku can say the same thing LIKE (let me take all the moments that can be a propaganda for the fangirls) KH2, KH3D, KHDAYS, KHBBS, and possibly KH:CoM just saying plus theres an "x" button on a persons sig if u dont like it u can click on it ^w^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites