KH3D Interesting thought ** spoilers **

[VanitasTheBest 196]

The BBS trio can survive into the next "saga" so they don't necessarily have to be rescued yet. But they will be.

 

I thought they were one of the keys to kill Xehanort O: Also, wouldn't it be mean if Sora defeats xehanort and wake them all up after this?

Much like

 

Sora *Wakes up Ventus* : "Hey, I totally killed the guy who made you and your closest friends suffer for nearly 11 years! I didn't need your help and I have to tell you that you missed SO MUCH things! Like, you're how old now? 26? And you never finished puberty?! Hahaha! That has to suck. Oh and Michael Jackson's dead!"

 

Ventus *stabs himself with his keyblade*

 

I'd like, toward the end, to have Xigbar be destroyed (for good) not too long before the final boss guantlet.

 

I can't appreciate this kind of thinking o.o

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

But it was definatly the seed that sparked his wanting to know more and then wanting to experience the whole Keyblade War thing. It may not be for curiosity's sake anymore, but it's definatly what started this whole chain reaction. Imo. > . >

 

Yeah but that doesn't seem like a good starting motive but I guess it is what it is lol.

[Smithee 327]

*EDIT*

Edited August 31, 2012 by Alan Smithee

[hatok 6,413]

It's an interesting theory...but I think Xehanort said that 7 lights and 13 darknesses are destined to show up,so...

 

Notice the word "destined". There's no running from what will definitely happen. If it's destined, then it will have to happen. If Time itself is immovable and unwritable, then the future, and therefore the destiny, is as well.

 

Destiny is never left to chance. You know WHY?

Because Destiny only occurs in retrospect. Xehanort has freely admitted tonot knowing the future. He doesn't know what IS destined to happen, only what he EXPECTS.

I mean, he said it was destiny for the twelve Xehanorts to gather and meet Sora, the new vessel, and that didn't really happen, as far as we know.

And I don't see why people take everything in the KH universe completely seriously. It's been proven time and again that things can be WRONG, for no other reason than being mistaken.

... also... I like how Xehanort is just ASSUMING that he is ALL THIRTEEN DARKNESS'S AT ONCE, and Sora and co are the rest. Why does he KNOW Terra is a light? Couldn't it be Jack Skellington for all he knows? Aren't there literally INFINITE other people out in the universe? What are the odds that half of them are from Destiny Islands, and the rest are from Radiant Garden?

Seriously, not very well thought out IMO

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Destiny is never left to chance. You know WHY?

Because Destiny only occurs in retrospect. Xehanort has freely admitted tonot knowing the future. He doesn't know what IS destined to happen, only what he EXPECTS.

I mean, he said it was destiny for the twelve Xehanorts to gather and meet Sora, the new vessel, and that didn't really happen, as far as we know.

And I don't see why people take everything in the KH universe completely seriously. It's been proven time and again that things can be WRONG, for no other reason than being mistaken.

... also... I like how Xehanort is just ASSUMING that he is ALL THIRTEEN DARKNESS'S AT ONCE, and Sora and co are the rest. Why does he KNOW Terra is a light? Couldn't it be Jack Skellington for all he knows? Aren't there literally INFINITE other people out in the universe? What are the odds that half of them are from Destiny Islands, and the rest are from Radiant Garden?

Seriously, not very well thought out IMO

 

Exactly .Xehanorts assumptions and miscalculations have helped lead to his failures and downfalls . Everybody is so impressed by all his back up plans . But seriously, if you need THAT many back up plans and you fail THAT many times you are doing something wrong

[Rayne the Relentless 14]

Noticing a lot of people saying Xehanort is making destiny happen through unnatural causes but if they was fully the case how is he controlling what happens on the light end? He didn't orchestrate the lights in which he would clash with. And who is to say that if he wasn't the one trying to pull the strings for the side of darkness that someone else wouldn't? I feel like if anything he is only accelerating a process in which he says is destined to happen.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Noticing a lot of people saying Xehanort is making destiny happen through unnatural causes but if they was fully the case how is he controlling what happens on the light end? He didn't orchestrate the lights in which he would clash with. And who is to say that if he wasn't the one trying to pull the strings for the side of darkness that someone else wouldn't? I feel like if anything he is only accelerating a process in which he says is destined to happen.

 

You know this post actually helps our point right. You say that he is not responsible for the lights yet they only manifested as a response to the darknesses manufactured by MX. You guys keep saying that the clash is destiny yet none of you can give a valid reason on how MX knows that if even he can't see the future. If all of this was fated to happen why at every turn has Kingdom Hearts rejected MX's plans.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Noticing a lot of people saying Xehanort is making destiny happen through unnatural causes but if they was fully the case how is he controlling what happens on the light end? He didn't orchestrate the lights in which he would clash with. And who is to say that if he wasn't the one trying to pull the strings for the side of darkness that someone else wouldn't? I feel like if anything he is only accelerating a process in which he says is destined to happen.

 

Because KH is responding to the threat of darknesses that have been manufactured . Its been stated already . Xehanort wants to use the 7 PoH to clash with his MANUFACTURED darknesses. KH has responded with providing more lights to protect the PoH bc the weight of the existing worlds is in their hands . Xehanort figures he can use either the PoH or the 7 guardians that are brought in by KH and destiny to protect them as the lights in order to clash . In other words, hes forcing the battle to happen whether its the PoH or the guardians of light that are clashing with his manufactured 13 darknesses.. The 13 darknesses wouldnt have existed . If they naturally existed he wouldnt have needed 13 versions of himself ..He had to make that happen unnaturally instead of them existing presently for his taking and gathering at his whim ...Therefore he is forcing this to happen .

[Rayne the Relentless 14]

I also said this.

 

"And who is to say that if he wasn't the one trying to pull the strings for the side of darkness that someone else wouldn't?"

[Weiss 8,279]

And I guess I'm the only one who's thinking that what we expect to happen, will most likely not happen.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I also said this.

 

"And who is to say that if he wasn't the one trying to pull the strings for the side of darkness that someone else wouldn't?"

 

That doesnt apply to the story bc NO ONE ELSE IS . The original keyblade war happened eons ago and yet this has never happened till now . There has never been any inclination that anyone else is trying this . Its ALWAYS Xehanort .And he ALWAYS fails . Why ? Because destiny says otherwise like we have mentioned before

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

That doesnt apply to the story bc NO ONE ELSE IS . The original keyblade war happened eons ago and yet this has never happened till now . There has never been any inclination that anyone else is trying this . Its ALWAYS Xehanort .And he ALWAYS fails . Why ? Because destiny says otherwise like we have mentioned before

 

This exactly even if it were someone else it the conditions are still being manufactured. If you were to look for an example of the conditions being fullfilled naturally the original keyblade war is a perfect example.

[MyDixieRect 2,061]

I don't think that really would change anything. If they bring extra light's Xehanort will just take 7 and use them, the other's will just be left behind. If not then it's 13 darknesses to 8, 9 or 10 lights so the bad guys still have the upper hand in numbers and can just restrain the extra two or three by deep frrezing them a la Ven if it somehow effects the plan.

 

Or they can go after the 7 Princesses of Heart.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I don't think that really would change anything. If they bring extra light's Xehanort will just take 7 and use them, the other's will just be left behind. If not then it's 13 darknesses to 8, 9 or 10 lights so the bad guys still have the upper hand in numbers and can just restrain the extra two or three by deep frrezing them a la Ven if it somehow effects the plan.

 

Or they can go after the 7 Princesses of Heart.

 

Well my point in my opening post was, " what if there WERE 10 lights to the 13 darknesses meaning the formula would be thrown off if its not exactly 7 against 13 ". If they bring 10 to the fight, its not like Xehanort will say 'I pick you 7 " ..LOL They would still be there fighting them off no matter what Xehanort says. Also Im sure the PoH would be in protection and outta reach while this is going on . There is no indication even if its 10 versus 13 the darknesses can restrain the extra guardians of light bc in doing so they are still 'clashing/ fighting with the darknesses and the formula would be 'off' .

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I don't think that really would change anything. If they bring extra light's Xehanort will just take 7 and use them, the other's will just be left behind. If not then it's 13 darknesses to 8, 9 or 10 lights so the bad guys still have the upper hand in numbers and can just restrain the extra two or three by deep frrezing them a la Ven if it somehow effects the plan.

 

Or they can go after the 7 Princesses of Heart.

 

But look at MX's BBS attempt to make the X-Blade it failed because the numbers were off. Also do really think that the remaing 7 would let them "restrain" 3 of their comrades. Plus by attempting to restrain them they still would be clashing with the group. Edited August 31, 2012 by devereauxr

[King Riku 2,063]

I thought of that immediately. I figure it just gives the Light a better fighting chance. Of course, if Xehanort happens to grab enough of them to get his Seven Lights, then there's three left to attempt to grab 'em back.

[Smithee 327]

I definitely think that at some point in KH3, one or more of the heroes will be faced with the temptation of using the X-Blade and KH to exact "vigilante justice" against Xehanort and/or Darkness.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Alan Smithee

[MyDixieRect 2,061]

But look at MX's BBS attempt to make the X-Blade it failed because the numbers were off. Also do really think that the remaing 7 would let them "restrain" 3 of their comrades. Plus by attempting to restrain them they still would be clashing with the group.

 

No they wouldn't let them but have you reached the end of DDD in Where Nothing Gathers? Ansem and Xemnas move at lightning speed and Xigbar can teleport. Having them restrict 3 and take them out of reach wouldn't be the least bit hard. Not to mention that the heroes won't always be together so Xehanort can kidnap/seal away them as they travel the worlds until 7 remain.

 

Well my point in my opening post was, " what if there WERE 10 lights to the 13 darknesses meaning the formula would be thrown off if its not exactly 7 against 13 ". If they bring 10 to the fight, its not like Xehanort will say 'I pick you 7 " ..LOL They would still be there fighting them off no matter what Xehanort says. Also Im sure the PoH would be in protection and outta reach while this is going on . There is no indication even if its 10 versus 13 the darknesses can restrain the extra guardians of light bc in doing so they are still 'clashing/ fighting with the darknesses and the formula would be 'off' .

 

It was 2 am so I kinda skim read everything, I was tired. No but Ansem and Xemnas can move at lightning speed and Xigbar can teleport, so capturing 3 of them and transporting them out of reach wouldn't be too hard, especially since Xemnas has bind, Xigbar has his lasers. And it's not like the Xehanorts will just be waiting at the Keyblade Graveyard the whole time, they'll also be meddling in the disney worlds, and the original worlds as well so while the heroes are separated doing whatever Xehanort can either kidnap a few of them, knock them out, seal them away until 7 remain, so that way they're forced to battle with the formula. A man as genius as Xehanort couldn't have his plan ruined by a simple "Oh we'll just bring more numbers to the fight" lol.

 

But if all you were saying is what would happen if they were 10...who knows? Haha.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Winner's Proof

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

No they wouldn't let them but have you reached the end of DDD in Where Nothing Gathers? Ansem and Xemnas move at lightning speed and Xigbar can teleport. Having them restrict 3 and take them out of reach wouldn't be the least bit hard. Not to mention that the heroes won't always be together so Xehanort can kidnap/seal away them as they travel the worlds until 7 remain.

 

 

 

It was 2 am so I kinda skim read everything, I was tired. No but Ansem and Xemnas can move at lightning speed and Xigbar can teleport, so capturing 3 of them and transporting them out of reach wouldn't be too hard, especially since Xemnas has bind, Xigbar has his lasers. And it's not like the Xehanorts will just be waiting at the Keyblade Graveyard the whole time, they'll also be meddling in the disney worlds, and the original worlds as well so while the heroes are separated doing whatever Xehanort can either kidnap a few of them, knock them out, seal them away until 7 remain, so that way they're forced to battle with the formula. A man as genius as Xehanort couldn't have his plan ruined by a simple "Oh we'll just bring more numbers to the fight" lol.

 

But if all you were saying is what would happen if they were 10...who knows? Haha.

 

You cant possibly predict that Ansem or Xemnas or anyone else can restrain anyone 'with lightening speed " . Have you forgottten that every Xehanort incarnation has lost in their fights ? You act like all these light guardians have never already DEFEATED them ..LOL.. Also they are suppose to meet at the ' designated 'meeting place . So they can EASILY surprise them with extra wielders bc Xehanort doesnt know about Lea, Kairi, or Roxas and Xion being revived . Xehanort has proven failure after failure he has not forseen every little thing that happens .If anything , his miscalculations had lead to his defeat EVERY SINGLE TIME .Also I doubt all the norts will be just hanging around . They can only be there as proven before for a certain limited amount of time before they get forced back . So when they DO gather , it'll be at the current destined time . Xehanort's biggest flaw is the holes in his plans . Thats why they NEVER work right in the end ..Why do you think he always needs a backup plan ? Because hes failed all the other times. Thats FAR from genius ..Also refer below as an example

 

I think this very a plausible counter measurement against Xehanort's plans. Xehanort has always counted on his plans going exactly the way he wanted them to. But his fatal flaw is he never accounts for the fact that his pawns have their own free will. In bbs he never expected Terra to fight back which delayed his plans. In KH1 Ansem never expected Riku to fight back and help Sora stop his plans. Xemnas never considered that Roxas would leave the Organization and awaken Sora. MX never once thought that Lea would come and rescue Sora . Yen Sid must know that Xehanort is reading the moves he expects them to take by acting in way that is not expected (By presenting more then seven) the chances of foiling Xehanort are significantly higher . Making Lea a keyblade wielder is one way Yen Sid has implemented this strategy so I see no reason for this not to work.

 

Read this again ^^

[Cactuar 21]

We all know now that MX stated he needs 7 lights and 13 darknesses to create the X blade. But what if the numbers were off ? How would that affect it ? Just because MX needs 7 lights doesnt mean WE have to give him that many..Its not like the 7 and 13 are the original 'pieces' of the X blade . They are 'manufactured ' ..Xehanort is once again manufacturing conditions just like Ansem and Xemnas manufactured their own versions of Kingdom Hearts in the past . . What if we gave MORE ? If we have Mickey, Riku, Sora, Aqua, Ven, Terra, Lea, Kairi ,Roxas, Xion. Thats 10 wielders if Xion and Roxas are revived and we can save Terra. What would happen if the numbers were 'off' ? Would it screw up MX's plan if there ended up being more lights than 7? What if that was one way of KH rejecting Xehanort ? By providing more than 7 lights to throw off Xehanorts plan ? MX stated that he needs exactly 7 and 13 but never said what would happen if the numbers were " off " meaning there is even more 'lights ' than he expected . I'm sure he never counted on Terra getting saved, Roxas and Xion getting revived , and Lea wielding a keyblade too. That seems to be his downfall...Theres always that one little thing he didnt figure on ...which is why his plans always come up short and hes always needed a back up plan ...Just some food for thought..What do you guys think ?

 

If I remember right, from the game or from an interview idk, there are seven lights because the light half of the original X-blade separated in seven pieces and they ended up in the hearts of each princess. I'm sure I read this somewhere.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

If I remember right, from the game or from an interview idk, there are seven lights because the light half of the original X-blade separated in seven pieces and they ended up in the hearts of each princess. I'm sure I read this somewhere.

 

But you are missing the point that MX 's plan is to use either the 7 princesses OR the 7 guardians of light as the lights . He figured he can force the battle so it HAS to happen . He will use the guardians if they 'guard ' the PoH. In other words, he can use the guardians as the light part of the formula..Thats the whole point This has been stated several times in this thread btw .

Edited August 31, 2012 by Flaming Lea

[Demyx. 10,064]

We all know now that MX stated he needs 7 lights and 13 darknesses to create the X blade. But what if the numbers were off ? How would that affect it ? Just because MX needs 7 lights doesnt mean WE have to give him that many..Its not like the 7 and 13 are the original 'pieces' of the X blade . They are 'manufactured ' ..Xehanort is once again manufacturing conditions just like Ansem and Xemnas manufactured their own versions of Kingdom Hearts in the past . . What if we gave MORE ? If we have Mickey, Riku, Sora, Aqua, Ven, Terra, Lea, Kairi ,Roxas, Xion. Thats 10 wielders if Xion and Roxas are revived and we can save Terra. What would happen if the numbers were 'off' ? Would it screw up MX's plan if there ended up being more lights than 7? What if that was one way of KH rejecting Xehanort ? By providing more than 7 lights to throw off Xehanorts plan ? MX stated that he needs exactly 7 and 13 but never said what would happen if the numbers were " off " meaning there is even more 'lights ' than he expected . I'm sure he never counted on Terra getting saved, Roxas and Xion getting revived , and Lea wielding a keyblade too. That seems to be his downfall...Theres always that one little thing he didnt figure on ...which is why his plans always come up short and hes always needed a back up plan ...Just some food for thought..What do you guys think ?

 

It's interesting. If the formula were wrong and there were more lights than Xehanort expected than the X-Blade could be forged wrong from the battle and not work properley.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

It's interesting. If the formula were wrong and there were more lights than Xehanort expected than the X-Blade could be forged wrong from the battle and not work properley.

 

Yep or maybe not at all...But I'd bet it would be like BBS and just not form properly or broken .

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

No they wouldn't let them but have you reached the end of DDD in Where Nothing Gathers? Ansem and Xemnas move at lightning speed and Xigbar can teleport. Having them restrict 3 and take them out of reach wouldn't be the least bit hard. Not to mention that the heroes won't always be together so Xehanort can kidnap/seal away them as they travel the worlds until 7 remain.

 

 

 

It was 2 am so I kinda skim read everything, I was tired. No but Ansem and Xemnas can move at lightning speed and Xigbar can teleport, so capturing 3 of them and transporting them out of reach wouldn't be too hard, especially since Xemnas has bind, Xigbar has his lasers. And it's not like the Xehanorts will just be waiting at the Keyblade Graveyard the whole time, they'll also be meddling in the disney worlds, and the original worlds as well so while the heroes are separated doing whatever Xehanort can either kidnap a few of them, knock them out, seal them away until 7 remain, so that way they're forced to battle with the formula. A man as genius as Xehanort couldn't have his plan ruined by a simple "Oh we'll just bring more numbers to the fight" lol.

 

But if all you were saying is what would happen if they were 10...who knows? Haha.

 

Just so you know your examples are helping our points not your point I hope you realize that. In the scene you are refering to it was clear that the darknesses had the upper hand, after all they only had mickey and riku to deal with. Restraining them in that instance wasn't exactly hard beacause who else did Riku, and Mickey have to back them up at that point. MX was so confident that "destiny" would ensure that Sora was to become his thirteenth vessel (Bare in mind Sora again was the back up for the back up) that he did not account for anyone else interfering then bam Lea comes in like a walking middle finger and spoils his "genius" plan. That doesn't sound like a foil proof, ironclad destiny if you ask me. Point blank once Lea, donald, and goofy( the unexpected variables) were added to MX's plan it fell completely apart and the darknesses could do nothing about it.

 

Number two you twice brought up how fast Xemnas, Ansem were in those instances but you fail to realize that Riku and Mickey were distracted. Their first instinct was to get to Sora in time, they weren't worried about blocking Ansem and Xemnas's restraint and were caught off gaurd. Then directly afterwards MX attempted to make the implant, in which Mickey and Riku watched in horror as to what was about to happen to their friend. Notice as soon as Lea had ensured Sora's safety, and provided a distraction they both escaped their restraints with ease.

For all the power that you claim that MX and his darknesses to have at their disposal at the end of the day what good has it done them. It didn't stop Sora and Riku from slashing up Ansem like a wood carving. It didn't stop Sora from running through Siax and Xigbar like insignificant bugs. It didn't stop Sora and Riku from destroying a "Kingdom Hearts" powered Xemnas. In all those instances Sora and Riku TWO of the lights held more then their own, so what makes you think that with ten of them that the darknesses still have the edge. Lets face if donald and goofy can accidently destroy the gaurdian how powerful are the darknesses compared to the lights.

 

Finally what makes you think that the darknesses are going to traversing around the present time worlds when half of their ranks are from the past and returned to their own times. They only have a certain amount of time to stay tied to the present, MX specifically said that the they would meet at the destined placed when both sides were complete. By all MX logic he has asssumed that there are only going to be Seven lights present, once he thinks all have been gathered he will go with his darknesses to the destined place. If Kingdom Hearts in an act of defiance to MX's will provides the worlds with more then seven light to throw off Xehanort's formula then the lights will have the element of suprised. If they all arrive at the destined place then the fight will still be forced and Xehanort's condition will not be met. This also gives the lights a chance to destroy some if not all of the darknesses further ruining the conditions.

Edited August 31, 2012 by devereauxr

[MyDixieRect 2,061]

You cant possibly predict that Ansem or Xemnas or anyone else can restrain anyone 'with lightening speed " . Have you forgottten that every Xehanort incarnation has lost in their fights ? You act like all these light guardians have never already DEFEATED them ..LOL.. Also they are suppose to meet at the ' designated 'meeting place . So they can EASILY surprise them with extra wielders bc Xehanort doesnt know about Lea, Kairi, or Roxas and Xion being revived . Xehanort has proven failure after failure he has not forseen every little thing that happens .If anything , his miscalculations had lead to his defeat EVERY SINGLE TIME .Also I doubt all the norts will be just hanging around . They can only be there as proven before for a certain limited amount of time before they get forced back . So when they DO gather , it'll be at the current destined time . Xehanort's biggest flaw is the holes in his plans . Thats why they NEVER work right in the end ..Why do you think he always needs a backup plan ? Because hes failed all the other times. Thats FAR from genius ..Also refer below as an example

 

 

 

Read this again ^^

 

I'm not "predicting it" at all. They both did exactly that in DDD. Mickey jumped Xemnas caught him, before Riku could even gasp out of shock Ansem then restricts him, it's not hard. Xehanort zipped behind Ven and froze him, YMX teleports in his boss fight (and leaves after images so he must move really fast) and can produce clones. Yes, they will meet there. Just like Vanitas in BBS said they should forge the X-blade in the Keyblade Graveyard, but like in BBS that doesn't mean they'll just wait there for all the game, they'll meddle in the affairs of worlds. Fine, not all the norts will meddle but MX isn't the only one of the organization who is from the present so they can still meddle with the worlds. Xehanort creates a plan where if it fails he still gains the upper hand. That's genius. His exploits in BBS didn't succeed but what came of that? Terra lost his heart and YMX got a new body, Ven is now in a 12 year coma and Aqua's in the RoD, so yeah. Sora then beats Ansem and Xemnas. Congrats you just brought back Master Xehanort. Let the X-blade forging begin! It's pretty genius to have a plan that heavily inconveniences the heroes no matter what happens. The game even goes as far as to call him a genius and arguably the greatest Keyblade master ever. 'Sides, since when were geniuses not allowed to fail? All the great minds of mankind have failures.

 

Just so you know your examples are helping our points not your point I hope you realize that. In the scene you are refering to it was clear that the darknesses had the upper hand, after all they only had mickey and riku to deal with. Restraining them in that instance wasn't exactly hard beacause who else did Riku, and Mickey have to back them up at that point. MX was so confident that "destiny" would ensure that Sora was to become his thirteenth vessel (Bare in mind Sora again was the back up for the back up) that he did not account for anyone else interfering then bam Lea comes in like a walking middle finger and spoils his "genius" plan. That doesn't sound like a foil proof, ironclad destiny if you ask me. Point blank once Lea, donald, and goofy( the unexpected variables) were added to MX's plan it fell completely apart and the darknesses could do nothing about it.

 

Number two you twice brought up how fast Xemnas, Ansem were in those instances but you fail to realize that Riku and Mickey were distracted. Their first instinct was to get to Sora in time, they weren't worried about blocking Ansem and Xemnas's restraint and were caught off gaurd. Then directly afterwards MX attempted to make the implant, in which Mickey and Riku watched in horror as to what was about to happen to their friend. Notice as soon as Lea had ensured Sora's safety, and provided a distraction they both escaped their restraints with ease.

For all the power that you claim that MX and his darknesses to have at their disposal at the end of the day what good has it done them. It didn't stop Sora and Riku from slashing up Ansem like a wood carving. It didn't stop Sora from running through Siax and Xigbar like insignificant bugs. It didn't stop Sora and Riku from destroying a "Kingdom Hearts" powered Xemnas. In all those instances Sora and Riku TWO of the lights held more then their own, so what makes you think that with ten of them that the darknesses still have the edge. Lets face if donald and goofy can accidently destroy the gaurdian how powerful are the darknesses compared to the lights.

 

Finally what makes you think that the darknesses are going to traversing around the present time worlds when half of their ranks are from the past and returned to their own times. They only have a certain amount of time to stay tied to the present, MX specifically said that the they would meet at the destined placed when both sides were complete. By all MX logic he has asssumed that there are only going to be Seven lights present, once he thinks all have been gathered he will go with his darknesses to the destined place. If Kingdom Hearts in an act of defiance to MX's will provides the worlds with more then seven light to throw off Xehanort's formula then the lights will have the element of suprised. If they all arrive at the destined place then the fight will still be forced and Xehanort's condition will not be met. This also gives the lights a chance to destroy some if not all of the darknesses further ruining the conditions.

 

What's stopping them from being "distracted" yet again when the time for the showdown comes. (And really you're in a room full of Xehanorts. If you wanna run and pay no attention to your surroundings then bravo!) And be it 10 lights or the intended 7 that show up there's still more darknesses. Heck MX was distracted by Terra and yet still flashed behind him froze Ven when Ven tried a sneak attack. The darknesses couldn't do anything about it because they were being pulled from time. Next time it will be different. It may work or not, but it will be different.

 

I'm not claiming they have all this power or are invincible or flawless like you and FlamingLea seem to be implying I am, I'm just saying restricting someone is hardly a difficult task so they can do it. And that guardian example is hardly a good one. The guardian isn't even a darkness. The darknesses are powerful you have to at least admit to that.

 

Yes half. Not all. Half. And I could just as well ask my friend to meet me at the park next week at 5. It doesn't mean we won't see each other at all till then. And really, you're assuming that unless Xehanort has exactly 7 then he's automatically lost just for that. Until KH3 we don't know how it plays out if we bring more than he wants, if he uses the princesses or anything. We don't even know how the X-blade will be forged. Will the hearts of the 7 and 13 fuse or will it just manifest itself? Until we know how it will be forged to say bringing more than 7 will ruin his plans is practically a baseless assumption.

 

 

Apologies dev, I hadn't seen your post before so I'm just replying now.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Winner's Proof