ReverofE 698 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Here I just want your opinion on who makes up the roles of the five man band in FFXIII. In it their are usually six(more or less roles).Which are The Leader/Hero: The main hero/leader, usually the jack of all stats gameplay wise(maybe like Mario in Mario Kart), usually is like the second smartest, strongest, or is similar to the Chick but not as much. Their Lancer: The leader's foil(extremely similar to or drastically different from the leader usually may come in second command) The Smart Guy: Self - Explanatory The Big Guy: Again Self-Explanatory The Chick: The one who is the heart of the group and brings them together. The Sixth Ranger: The one character who just sticks out. I would really like to hear your opinions. Edited August 29, 2012 by ReverofE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) But there are 6 players: Lightning, Snow, Vanille, Hope, Sazh and Fang. Who's the sixth? Edited August 29, 2012 by Shana09 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted August 29, 2012 But there are 6 players: Lightning, Snow, Vanille, Hope, Sazh and Fang. Who's the sixth? The Sixth ranger is out of the six playable characters who is the most different. Usually they are latest to join the team which is kind of while the characters are still on their journey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted August 29, 2012 The Sixth ranger is out of the six playable characters who is the most different. Usually they are latest to join the team which is kind of while the characters are still on their journey. no no i meant that who would the "6" would be since there are 6 party members Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted August 29, 2012 no no i meant that who would the "6" would be since there are 6 party members I am sorry I am a very stupid individual I am still not getting your question. I mean there are six playable characters who you can fit into each of the roles. Could you please specify your question? 1 Daniel Black reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted August 29, 2012 Here I just want your opinion on who makes up the roles of the five man band in FFXIII. In it their are usually six(more or less roles).Which are The Leader/Hero: The main hero/leader, usually the jack of all stats gameplay wise(maybe like Mario in Mario Kart), usually is like the second smartest, strongest, or is similar to the Chick but not as much. Their Lancer: The leader's foil(extremely similar to or drastically different from the leader usually may come in second command) The Smart Guy: Self - Explanatory The Big Guy: Again Self-Explanatory The Chick: The one who is the heart of the group and brings them together. The Sixth Ranger: The one character who just sticks out. I would really like to hear your opinions. Seems pretty pbvious Lighting is leader Snow is lancer Hope is smart guy Sazh is big guy Vanille is chick Fang is ranger 1 XIIISwords reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted August 29, 2012 Seems pretty pbvious Lighting is leader Snow is lancer Hope is smart guy Sazh is big guy Vanille is chick Fang is ranger But Snow is literally 6'7!!! He looks like the biggest guy on the game, his HP can reach 30000 which is the highest out of everyone and his main role is being a Sentinel!! Why isn't he the big guy? Why can't Sazh be the lancer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted August 29, 2012 But Snow is literally 6'7!!! He looks like the biggest guy on the game, his HP can reach 30000 which is the highest out of everyone and his main role is being a Sentinel!! Why isn't he the big guy? Why can't Sazh be the lancer? Uh... big guy isn't that literal.Snow runs in direct opposition to Lightning's ideals, while Sazh essentially functions as a gentle giant throughout the game. A father figure. That's what makes him the big guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted August 29, 2012 Uh... big guy isn't that literal. Snow runs in direct opposition to Lightning's ideals, while Sazh essentially functions as a gentle giant throughout the game. A father figure. That's what makes him the big guy. But Sazh is almost twice the age of Lightning, is the opposite skin color and gender of her as well. Also due to his age he has had more military experience than her. Plus, Lightning is mostly stern, serious who is willing to jump into action where as Sazh is more down to Earth and more realistic kind of like the only sane person on the team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted August 29, 2012 But Sazh is almost twice the age of Lightning, is the opposite skin color and gender of her as well. Also due to his age he has had more military experience than her. Plus, Lightning is mostly stern, serious who is willing to jump into action where as Sazh is more down to Earth and more realistic kind of like the only sane person on the team. No.Snow is literally the anti-Lightning. Most of the things you mention don't ever have anything to do with being a Lancer. The Lancer is the Kain to your Cecil, your KH1 Riku to your Sora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted August 30, 2012 I am sorry I am a very stupid individual I am still not getting your question. I mean there are six playable characters who you can fit into each of the roles. Could you please specify your question? Nooo i did not mean that Dx and I'm so sorry I did not see Leader/Hero x-x My bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azzurro 36 Posted August 30, 2012 The Leader/Hero-Lightning obviously The Lancer-Sazh or Snow could fit this role but IMO Snow fits the big guy role best The Smart Guy- Hope The Big Guy- Snow The Chick- Vanille The Sixth ranger- Fang 1 ReverofE reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted August 30, 2012 No. Snow is literally the anti-Lightning. Most of the things you mention don't ever have anything to do with being a Lancer. The Lancer is the Kain to your Cecil, your KH1 Riku to your Sora. But your Lancer is your foil and Sazh and Lightning are just about complete opposites. I know their relationship isn't like Goku to Vegeta/Piccolo or Aang to Zuko. It just that they are opposites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted August 30, 2012 But your Lancer is your foil and Sazh and Lightning are just about complete opposites. I know their relationship isn't like Goku to Vegeta/Piccolo or Aang to Zuko. It just that they are opposites. But the point of a lancer is to run opposite to the hero. Sazh and Lightning get along fine and are the most mature and worldly members of the team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XIIISwords 1,059 Posted September 16, 2012 The Leader/Hero: Lightning- no doubt there. Their Lancer: While some would say Fang (for obvious reasons- she uses a spear), I'd give this to Snow. He is the complete opposite of Lightning. The Smart Guy: I'd give this to Sazh in XIII, because he's the oldest and most experienced. However, I'd give it to Hope if we counted XIII-2, because it's shown there that he's basically a genius. The Big Guy: Snow, again, for obvious reasons. The Chick: Vanille. Have you heard her talk? The Sixth Ranger: Fang, because she joins late and never really melds with the group like the others did. So I gave Snow two roles, and sort of left Hope or Sazh out. These make the most sense, but if it was limited to only one role each. Leader- Lightning (duh) Lancer- Fang (Some instances in the ending and when they first meet) Smart Guy- Sazh (In XIII), Hope (XIII-2) Big Guy- Snow (he's the only one who could fill this) Chick- Vanille (duh) 6th Ranger- Hope (XIII, because he's the youngest), Sazh (XIII-2, because he's generally not present. 1 ReverofE reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 16, 2012 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLeader Lightning is a type 2 leader http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLancer Snow is the lancer, as he runs in direct contrast to Lightning http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSmartGuy Hope is the smart guy mostly because he doesn't fit well into other categories, he is profficient with magic, however http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheBigGuy Sazh is a class 2 big guy, all the way http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheChick It's Vanille. Not much else to say http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SixthRanger And fang more or less fits the sixth ranger card 1 TheApprenticeofKingMickey reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted September 16, 2012 The Leader/Hero: Lightning- no doubt there. Their Lancer: While some would say Fang (for obvious reasons- she uses a spear), I'd give this to Snow. He is the complete opposite of Lightning. The Smart Guy: I'd give this to Sazh in XIII, because he's the oldest and most experienced. However, I'd give it to Hope if we counted XIII-2, because it's shown there that he's basically a genius. The Big Guy: Snow, again, for obvious reasons. The Chick: Vanille. Have you heard her talk? The Sixth Ranger: Fang, because she joins late and never really melds with the group like the others did. So I gave Snow two roles, and sort of left Hope or Sazh out. These make the most sense, but if it was limited to only one role each. Leader- Lightning (duh) Lancer- Fang (Some instances in the ending and when they first meet) Smart Guy- Sazh (In XIII), Hope (XIII-2) Big Guy- Snow (he's the only one who could fill this) Chick- Vanille (duh) 6th Ranger- Hope (XIII, because he's the youngest), Sazh (XIII-2, because he's generally not present. http://tvtropes.org/.../Main/TheLeader Lightning is a type 2 leader http://tvtropes.org/.../Main/TheLancer Snow is the lancer, as he runs in direct contrast to Lightning http://tvtropes.org/...ain/TheSmartGuy Hope is the smart guy mostly because he doesn't fit well into other categories, he is profficient with magic, however http://tvtropes.org/.../Main/TheBigGuy Sazh is a class 2 big guy, all the way http://tvtropes.org/...p/Main/TheChick It's Vanille. Not much else to say http://tvtropes.org/...ain/SixthRanger And fang more or less fits the sixth ranger card Pretty nice observation XIII Swords I agree with your interpretation of it. Plus, hatok you may need to check your links again because if you look under video games you will see they will portray Sazh as lancer and Snow as big guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 16, 2012 Pretty nice observation XIII Swords I agree with your interpretation of it. Plus, hatok you may need to check your links again because if you look under video games you will see they will portray Sazh as lancer and Snow as big guy. "They" TVtropes is updated by people like me and you. It's not 'official' or anything. It's ALL interpretation.I stand by what I said, because it makes sense. snow as the big guy, besides his physical appearance, makes no sense. And Sazh is the farthest thing from a lancer to Lightning that you could get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted September 16, 2012 "They" TVtropes is updated by people like me and you. It's not 'official' or anything. It's ALL interpretation. I stand by what I said, because it makes sense. snow as the big guy, besides his physical appearance, makes no sense. And Sazh is the farthest thing from a lancer to Lightning that you could get. However like you said it is just interpretation both yours and mine. Meaning that this argument is fruitless. So lets just allow other members to express their interpretation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 16, 2012 However like you said it is just interpretation both yours and mine. Meaning that this argument is fruitless. So lets just allow other members to express their interpretation. Argument isn't fruitless. Contrast is the key to growth. You should be open to ideas, and always willing to argue your point. If you can't defend your point, it just makes your point appear flimsy, whether it is or isn'tDefend thy self, good sir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReverofE 698 Posted October 23, 2012 Argument isn't fruitless. Contrast is the key to growth. You should be open to ideas, and always willing to argue your point. If you can't defend your point, it just makes your point appear flimsy, whether it is or isn't Defend thy self, good sir. Never wanted to defend myself it seems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites