Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 5, 2012 Nice and interesting But are some points that no one of us should know, at the end of the reunion of the 13, we cannot know if he just warped to another place or went back to his time (i think that MX is from bbs time), i doubt about the era of that MX, cause the same thing you tried to explain but again without facts: why MX is in his old form? i dont think he just recover his old body, it cannot be that simple. Well there are some events that if we don't know we can't be sure of nothing, like: -Did Xehanort return to his old body, or terranort's? in the first case how and why? i repeat that return to his old body cannot be that simple like just rewind -Did Terranort recover his memory? many of you would say that is obvious, but again we can't be sure of that. -are we sure that nothing happens between kh2 and 3D, that influenced the new power of XH of move through time? I just tried to say, do not try to think of many conclusions, a game/history with the time travel's argument usually are not created thinking to be understand in the first part. Marketing in action I hate write long post cause i do not speak english as i wish i could do. Be friendly Nice and interesting But are some points that no one of us should know, at the end of the reunion of the 13, we cannot know if he just warped to another place or went back to his time (i think that MX is from bbs time), i doubt about the era of that MX, cause the same thing you tried to explain but again without facts: why MX is in his old form? i dont think he just recover his old body, it cannot be that simple. Well there are some events that if we don't know we can't be sure of nothing, like: -Did Xehanort return to his old body, or terranort's? in the first case how and why? i repeat that return to his old body cannot be that simple like just rewind -Did Terranort recover his memory? many of you would say that is obvious, but again we can't be sure of that. -are we sure that nothing happens between kh2 and 3D, that influenced the new power of XH of move through time? I just tried to say, do not try to think of many conclusions, a game/history with the time travel's argument usually are not created thinking to be understand in the first part. Marketing in action I hate write long post cause i do not speak english as i wish i could do. Be friendly MX is still commanding Terra's body he doesn't even have a body to go back to at this point. The most likely reason he appears as the old man is because his heart has fully engulfed Terra's heart. Seeing as the heart shapes the vessel Terra's body has now taken the appearance of the old man with the strength of the younger body.It appears that Apprentice Xehanort did indeed gain his memory back I believe he got it back when Ansem the was preformed he initial experiment on Xehanort's heart. As far as time travel is concerned the ability stems from a combination of Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Young Xehanort there is really nothing that could have affected it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 5, 2012 My thory is that in KH universe when you travel through time, you cannot come back but your body stayes behind and lives like the time travel never happened. The robe figure traveled through time to bring ymx to the future & to tell him about time travel so he could travel in time evry time he changed form (Xemnas,Terranort,Etc...) In that way, every one could gather in the world that never was. After the events of Kh3 happened they all traveled in the future in the keyblade graveyard.(This was proggramed to be done from before(Braig:What now you Old Coot. We are running out of time.) However because sora was saved, they were lacking a 13th darkness. The darkness must be The master xehanort revived by the destruction of ansem & xemnas(Terranort, not old master xehanort). i agree almost at all except: you cant travel to the future it would ruin the game lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) try to understand all the plot now is useless because the game was done to twist our minds Wait for kh3 to solve all this mess and try to not explode until then Thats what i thought but if you relax a bit its really simple It all has to do on how you look upon time travel. If youre tryin to think about it like the movie ( Back to the future ) youll never figure it out lol. KH time travel is so much simpler. Just think the following:1)Ansem never visited YMX until kh1, which means the bbs YMX fight is non cannon. 2)ymx doesnt really exist, hes just a shadow of the past ( just like anyone who was removed from ther timeline) 3)All those who transcended time were summoned at the same time. ( Best thing nomura has said for kh3d it rly makes sense, too bored to say why lol ) By that i mean ymx visited those who had to.. and then came to the present and summoned them. 4) Once you procceed ( about time travel) you can only go forward. 5) You cant travel below the present because it hasnt happened yet 6) You write your own destiny.. no matter what xehanort says ( still when ymx goes back.. he ll be destined to follow the path he did, but thats not exactly destiny, its his heart command that ITS ALWAYS the same). Dont take this line wrong, destiny exists cause things are fated to happen. they are your choice tho Edited September 6, 2012 by KingdomKarts_:P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schlosserm 8 Posted September 6, 2012 Thats what i thought but if you relax a bit its really simple It all has to do on how you look upon time travel. If youre tryin to think about it like the movie ( Back to the future ) youll never figure it out lol. KH time travel is so much simpler. Just think the following: 1)Ansem never visited YMX until kh1, which means the bbs YMX fight is non cannon. In a interview Nomura said the fight was cannon (if my memory dont tricked me ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisitJoan 2,713 Posted September 6, 2012 Yeah, how is it not cannon if it's in the game? (Or am I missunderstanding the meening of cannon?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler'sApprentice 131 Posted September 6, 2012 before I start I'm gonna say........I've finished KH3D and I began to understand how the time travel worked for Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Young Xehanort as said by Young Xehanort.....once you became a heartless....you can time travel once...and you must have an incarnation of you in said destination(Destiny's Island for Xehanort)...you can't time travel to a period that you don't have any incarnation in....and once you get back to your own time......you're experience of time travel will be erased and none if your action will affect the time line......and since Yen sid said that Sora and Riku will travel to the period where the island wasn't a sleeping world ....and they actually traveled to the dreams of past worlds....they might traveled to the worlds Xehanort has visited in his youth......the past of Young Xehanort in the realm of Sleep.....that means Young Xehanort has traveled to the realm of Sleep and remained in there to guide Sora into the world that never was.........he only time traveled to TWTNW and only entered the dream of the sleeping worlds sora and riku has visited....thus he only time traveled once to the world that never was where his incarnation...Xemnas...awaits there.............Ok...at first I thought I've pieced everything together.........UNTIL OUR BALD DUDE MASTER XEHANORT SHOWED UP TO TWIST MY MIND.........I get that MX has been ressurrected by the destruction of Ansem and Xemnas......my question is.......Did Ansem and Xemnas got revived or summoned from their time???? I think they got revived with Master Xehanort since they still remember Sora & Riku and all of their experiences with those two and the members of Organization XIII.............what really twist my mind.........if the clones will back to their time.......HOW WILL HE SUMMON THEM BACK FOR THE KEYBLADE WAR?????? it's impossible that Ansem's ability to time travel is unlimited....by YX explanation...it's got to be limited.......he'll only have almost 6 or seven members(himself,Ansem,Xemnas,Saix,Xigbar,Terra-Xehanort.....with sora as a member inbetween the sides) ok...I'm not gonna say it doesn't make sense......because I'm sure there is an explanation....THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION TO THIS........and they have to explain that in Kingdom Hearts 3+another spin-off because one game might not be enough now don't get me wrong....Kingdom Hearts 3D is awesome...the Story & gameplay is Great...I didn't face any GLITCH except fot one glitch against anti black-coat where he disappeared and I was able to attack him....other than that the game is great............but the story became soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo complicated to the point I got a headache everytime I analyze the story of the series.................KH 3D is great....but the series now has reached a really serious point of Succeed or Fail if they got it right in KH3...then KH3 will be one of the best games Square Enix has ever made but if they failed...the series will collapse on itself I still love KH3D and the entire Kingdom Hearts Series...........but OH....MY ...GOD not even Metal gear Solid became that complicated....in fact....MGS is less complicated than KH despite all the science,knowledge & technology the Patriot has achieved in the MGS series As a life-long fan of science fiction I have plenty of experience with convoluted time-travel plots, but the requirements introduced in this game, while preserving the time-line, make it rather difficult to follow. The closest example I can think of is Quantum Leap, where someone's spirit jumps about the time-line of their own life. From what I understood you can time-travel repeatedly, but only for a certain length of time. It's analgous to being allowed to leave a room for 15 minutes, during which time you may do whatever you wish, entering it or other rooms again, though with the caveat some version of yourself must be present. However at the end of the 15 minutes you have to resume. From what I can discern here is the chain of events Ansem, Seeker of Darkness visits Destiny Islands, and gives his well-known speech about ignorance and the darkness of the world. Young Xehanort is either magically contacted or randomly decides to see what his island will look like in several decades, and, with the presence of SoD travels there. He is sent into the realm of dreams with Sora, providing a focal point for Xemnas, and able to enter Sora's mind as a focal point for SoD. Whom he had persuaded to team up with him for reasons unknown. He makes fun of Sora for being kind of dumb, and then Sora reaches The World that Never Was he feeds the nightmares in Sora so he will be consumed by darkness. Riku frees himself from the realm of dreams, and encounters the New Organization XIII, specifically Master Xehanort, most likely from BBS era, as the Rejoining of Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness should have created either Apprentice Xehanort (our best case scenario) or Terranort (which would seem to be the case based on Xigbar asking him if he'd regained his memories. If he had seen Master Xehanort that would be a pretty definite yes, but we saw him wielding MX's keyblade.) It's possible MX could have been formed, but it rather takes away the point of him stealing Terra's body, which he wanted because it was younger and stronger than his own. The Xehanort incarnations disappear as they are sent to their own time. This still leaves the question of how Young Xehanort, Xemnas, and Seeker of Darkness can be part of the Keyblade war, and put simply I think they won't. Xehanort can't risk using these people if any of their destruction would ruin the time-line and prevent his modern existence. However he still has 12 members of organization XIII that can fill in. Or, and this theory I will admit I'm biased towards, Luxord can do some time-warping and bring the past incarnations back, but that still leaves Xehanort exposed. And I'd just like to say their has yet to be an official Kingdom Hearts spin-off game, the closest you can get is a kid's game on Disney's site which is a spin-off of Days. Every single game so far has been vital to the plot, I'll admit coded and CoM could have been folded into thier own cutscene, removing the need for the game, but without knowledge of the events talked about there the series would make no sense. I have no doubt tis will become more obvious with the arrival of KHIII which should tie them all together. Which is why you're right, everything they've got has to depend on KHIII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 6, 2012 Dude,I already pieced everything together in my mind 1 page ago. Even though,nice theory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 7, 2012 Yeah, how is it not cannon if it's in the game? (Or am I missunderstanding the meening of cannon?) non cannon = didnt happen The boss was just there for us 1) for fun 2) to show whos the next final boss In a interview Nomura said the fight was cannon (if my memory dont tricked me ) He just said the character is canon and important.. but not the fight itself Besides if it was cannon everythin would go so wrong. It would create an infinite time loopin paradox. Ansem from future would visit ymx then ymx would travel yadda yadda yadda.. then we would reach the present and ansem would travel again? thats nonsense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 7, 2012 This still leaves the question of how Young Xehanort, Xemnas, and Seeker of Darkness can be part of the Keyblade war, and put simply I think they won't. Xehanort can't risk using these people if any of their destruction would ruin the time-line and prevent his modern existence. Uh uh wait just a sec...... the destruction of ymx xemnas or ansem sod..... will never affect MX existence....... because xemnas and ansem sod are dead already resultin in his revival. Those time-kidnapped figures are non-existent who will eventually return to their place. Remember how the past events cannot be changed? So it doesnt matter if anythin from the past dies.. Example: lets suppose that ymx dies... that doesnt mean you cant take him back again MX could cast aside his body and go to the past to take him again.. Of course he wont, since it wouldnt rly help at all to do that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schlosserm 8 Posted September 7, 2012 non cannon = didnt happen The boss was just there for us 1) for fun 2) to show whos the next final boss He just said the character is canon and important.. but not the fight itself Besides if it was cannon everythin would go so wrong. It would create an infinite time loopin paradox. Ansem from future would visit ymx then ymx would travel yadda yadda yadda.. then we would reach the present and ansem would travel again? thats nonsense He said the fight was not cannon? i rly need find again that interview Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) He said the fight was not cannon? i rly need find again that interview i rly dont remember where he said that sry But he didnt exactly say the fight was non cannon, he said: Every secret boss fight is non cannon except xemnas at kh1 ( he fought sora and took data to make xion ) , sephiroth at kh2 obviously and the heartless bosses ( he didnt mention anythin about heartless bosses i just assumed it ) EDIT: just visited a random topic and many ppl there wrote that they saw the interview sayin that MF fight is non-cannon, so i guess i remember correctly. Its better this way, that fight is a huge paradox lol Edited September 7, 2012 by KingdomKarts_:P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler'sApprentice 131 Posted September 8, 2012 Uh uh wait just a sec...... the destruction of ymx xemnas or ansem sod..... will never affect MX existence....... because xemnas and ansem sod are dead already resultin in his revival. Those time-kidnapped figures are non-existent who will eventually return to their place. Remember how the past events cannot be changed? So it doesnt matter if anythin from the past dies.. Example: lets suppose that ymx dies... that doesnt mean you cant take him back again MX could cast aside his body and go to the past to take him again.. Of course he wont, since it wouldnt rly help at all to do that Them dying does effect his existence, because they used time-travel. Obviously YMX grabbed them from before Sora fought them. If SoD is beaten in this future his Heart will join Kingdom Hearts of the Future, so when Sora beat Xemnas he couldn't come back because his heart wouldn't even exist for the Somebodies recreation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 8, 2012 Them dying does effect his existence, because they used time-travel. Obviously YMX grabbed them from before Sora fought them. If SoD is beaten in this future his Heart will join Kingdom Hearts of the Future, so when Sora beat Xemnas he couldn't come back because his heart wouldn't even exist for the Somebodies recreation. I read what Nomura said in a-not so old- interview. Question: So Master xehanort is already revived, while he has his heartless and nobody in his side as well via time travel? Nomura: Yes it does turn that way. Xemnas and Ansem sod are gone resulting his revival. This has happened and ( accordin to ymx ) noone can disrupt the flow of time. So it doesnt matter what befalls the time-kidnapped figures It is my opinion of course, you can have yours but.... if SoD is beaten in this future? ( which is actually the present, since you cant travel below present in this game ) if SoD dies im certainly he will simply disappear. To sum up: Past cannot be changed, only the present/future. MX is revived and this cannot be changed. No matter what happens to anyone who isnt at his time, the past is the same, Sora killed both xemnas and sod at past. If what ya said could be true, then YMX could find all his enemies parents, take em to the present and kill them, to prevent anythin he wants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler'sApprentice 131 Posted September 8, 2012 I read what Nomura said in a-not so old- interview. Question: So Master xehanort is already revived, while he has his heartless and nobody in his side as well via time travel? Nomura: Yes it does turn that way. Xemnas and Ansem sod are gone resulting his revival. This has happened and ( accordin to ymx ) noone can disrupt the flow of time. So it doesnt matter what befalls the time-kidnapped figures It is my opinion of course, you can have yours but.... if SoD is beaten in this future? ( which is actually the present, since you cant travel below present in this game ) if SoD dies im certainly he will simply disappear. To sum up: Past cannot be changed, only the present/future. MX is revived and this cannot be changed. No matter what happens to anyone who isnt at his time, the past is the same, Sora killed both xemnas and sod at past. If what ya said could be true, then YMX could find all his enemies parents, take em to the present and kill them, to prevent anythin he wants Worst case scenario both of us have some truth, killing them would change the past, and you can't change the past. Therefore they are immortal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 8, 2012 Worst case scenario both of us have some truth, killing them would change the past, and you can't change the past. Therefore they are immortal. they are immortal but in a specific way: Example, you can eliminate them but they will always remain in the past. So mx could just cast aside his body and go to the past oh god . Only solution is to defeat all the true xehanorts who exist in the present. After all the other fake xehanorts have a time limit in the present, so once they go back and there will be noone to bring em back, we are ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambler'sApprentice 131 Posted September 8, 2012 My point-of-view is Nomura is saying the universe has a fail-safe of sorts that prevents Paradoxes very neatly, you don't remember your time-travel, and you can't make changes to the past by moving people/things through time. Yours is that the universe has a fail-safe of sorts that prevents Paradoxes by having the past be unchangeable and essentially permitting small -scale paradoxes (lowercase p) such as defeating SoD in KH AND KHIII to prevent larger Paradoxes (uppercase P) such as Xehanort didn't get recreated at the end of KHII/Start of 3Ds. If I understand you correctly. My comment was just saying that fortunately the universe doesn't hate us and have a fail-safe that prevents Paradoxes by having past individuals be immortal so as to prevent them from dying at the wrong time. Also, if Sora defeats SoD and Xemnas again won't we get ANOTHER Xehanort? Because we didn't have enough in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 8, 2012 My point-of-view is Nomura is saying the universe has a fail-safe of sorts that prevents Paradoxes very neatly, you don't remember your time-travel, and you can't make changes to the past by moving people/things through time. Yours is that the universe has a fail-safe of sorts that prevents Paradoxes by having the past be unchangeable and essentially permitting small -scale paradoxes (lowercase p) such as defeating SoD in KH AND KHIII to prevent larger Paradoxes (uppercase P) such as Xehanort didn't get recreated at the end of KHII/Start of 3Ds. If I understand you correctly. My comment was just saying that fortunately the universe doesn't hate us and have a fail-safe that prevents Paradoxes by having past individuals be immortal so as to prevent them from dying at the wrong time. Also, if Sora defeats SoD and Xemnas again won't we get ANOTHER Xehanort? Because we didn't have enough in the first place. Both points of view could end up being combined really. About the last sentence though...i believe: if this would happen we would have 2 MXs lol. Then the 1 would cast aside his body, go find xemnas and sod and kill em to make make 3 MXs? nah... Common sense: since every darkness of the 13 is a unique person it means you cant have 2 same ppl at present. Otherwise... ymx would get 13 Master xehanorts from different times and voila.. MX from age of 20, age of 21 etc... i guess nthng will happen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted September 8, 2012 before I start I'm gonna say........I've finished KH3D and I began to understand how the time travel worked for Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Young Xehanort as said by Young Xehanort.....once you became a heartless....you can time travel once...and you must have an incarnation of you in said destination(Destiny's Island for Xehanort)...you can't time travel to a period that you don't have any incarnation in....and once you get back to your own time......you're experience of time travel will be erased and none if your action will affect the time line......and since Yen sid said that Sora and Riku will travel to the period where the island wasn't a sleeping world ....and they actually traveled to the dreams of past worlds....they might traveled to the worlds Xehanort has visited in his youth......the past of Young Xehanort in the realm of Sleep.....that means Young Xehanort has traveled to the realm of Sleep and remained in there to guide Sora into the world that never was.........he only time traveled to TWTNW and only entered the dream of the sleeping worlds sora and riku has visited....thus he only time traveled once to the world that never was where his incarnation...Xemnas...awaits there.............Ok...at first I thought I've pieced everything together.........UNTIL OUR BALD DUDE MASTER XEHANORT SHOWED UP TO TWIST MY MIND.........I get that MX has been ressurrected by the destruction of Ansem and Xemnas......my question is.......Did Ansem and Xemnas got revived or summoned from their time???? I think they got revived with Master Xehanort since they still remember Sora & Riku and all of their experiences with those two and the members of Organization XIII.............what really twist my mind.........if the clones will back to their time.......HOW WILL HE SUMMON THEM BACK FOR THE KEYBLADE WAR?????? it's impossible that Ansem's ability to time travel is unlimited....by YX explanation...it's got to be limited.......he'll only have almost 6 or seven members(himself,Ansem,Xemnas,Saix,Xigbar,Terra-Xehanort.....with sora as a member inbetween the sides) ok...I'm not gonna say it doesn't make sense......because I'm sure there is an explanation....THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION TO THIS........and they have to explain that in Kingdom Hearts 3+another spin-off because one game might not be enough now don't get me wrong....Kingdom Hearts 3D is awesome...the Story & gameplay is Great...I didn't face any GLITCH except fot one glitch against anti black-coat where he disappeared and I was able to attack him....other than that the game is great............but the story became soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo complicated to the point I got a headache everytime I analyze the story of the series.................KH 3D is great....but the series now has reached a really serious point of Succeed or Fail if they got it right in KH3...then KH3 will be one of the best games Square Enix has ever made but if they failed...the series will collapse on itself I still love KH3D and the entire Kingdom Hearts Series...........but OH....MY ...GOD not even Metal gear Solid became that complicated....in fact....MGS is less complicated than KH despite all the science,knowledge & technology the Patriot has achieved in the MGS series thats a lot of dots Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkFollower 2 Posted September 9, 2012 i agree almost at all except: you cant travel to the future it would ruin the game lol Maybe, but its the only way to explain how they got summoned at the wolrd that never was & the only way tosummon to the keyblade graveyard. However, to travel to future, I think you must have a vessel & thats the part where terranort comes in to summon them at the keyblade graveyard. Anyway, thanks for agreeing to my theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 9, 2012 Maybe, but its the only way to explain how they got summoned at the wolrd that never was & the only way to summon to the keyblade graveyard. However, to travel to future, I think you must have a vessel & thats the part where terranort comes in to summon them at the keyblade graveyard. Anyway, thanks for agreeing to my theory. Oh well... by reading your first sentence... I meant, the future below the present, because what is future for YMX ( kh 1, kh2 ) is past for us. I guess you cnt travel to this future because it hasnt happened yet, only for that. Those 11 darknesses ( without MX ) were summoned at the same time Nomura said it. YMX was travelling to HIS future ( past for us ) and did smthin that allowed him to summon them. Then he went to present and did it Smthing else: Im sure YMX ( ill use the word <<touched>> cause we dont know what he did that allowed him to summon ) so im sure YMX touched braig from bbs time as well and Isa just before he would turn into a nobody .. why? Well, he didnt know that xigbar and saix at kh2 would die resultin in braig in their revival. But i guess when he touched xigbar and saix too, just to be sure. Just told all this to say why the -same time summon thing- nomura said prevented a big plothole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thekh13 10 Posted September 9, 2012 because the battle with him as MF in BBS is not Canon......that fight has nothing to do with the story except it gave us a hint about YMX and how you might fight him in KH3D.......that fight is non-canon.....as I said....he can time travel once because of Ansem(I know Xehanort Heartless but I like to call him Ansem) gave him this ability ONCE....it'll be completely pointless to travel to the BBS period of time since his goal in KH3D is to guide sora to the castle to make him the 13th vessel,and to gather other clones for Xehanort....what will he get if he brought another old version........the Xehanorts in KH3D are not from several timelines.....they are the clones MX put a shard of his heart in....notice when he was about to possess Sora...he said: and now the 13th vessel should bear my heart...like the rest. meaning....the other Xehanorts are clones whom the cloning process has started on them.......they might be some old members of the organization or people who became complete clones...... also I have to say something..........Xigbar is the one who appeared not Braig......I always hear people say he's Braig while YMX himself(he said:the period of time that Xigbar mentioned) and the game's journal(after you beat the game he'll appear) say's that he's Xigbar and they said what his mission in the game was because the battle with him as MF in BBS is not Canon......that fight has nothing to do with the story except it gave us a hint about YMX and how you might fight him in KH3D.......that fight is non-canon.....as I said....he can time travel once because of Ansem(I know Xehanort Heartless but I like to call him Ansem) gave him this ability ONCE....it'll be completely pointless to travel to the BBS period of time since his goal in KH3D is to guide sora to the castle to make him the 13th vessel,and to gather other clones for Xehanort....what will he get if he brought another old version........the Xehanorts in KH3D are not from several timelines.....they are the clones MX put a shard of his heart in....notice when he was about to possess Sora...he said: and now the 13th vessel should bear my heart...like the rest. meaning....the other Xehanorts are clones whom the cloning process has started on them.......they might be some old members of the organization or people who became complete clones...... also I have to say something..........Xigbar is the one who appeared not Braig......I always hear people say he's Braig while YMX himself(he said:the period of time that Xigbar mentioned) and the game's journal(after you beat the game he'll appear) say's that he's Xigbar and they said what his mission in the game was yah but i dont think there clones because in the end MX said that now time is up and all of us have to return to are own time periods Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helios X 6 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) This game can be confusing and a little tricky to understand. My question is did Master Xehanort came back because both Ansem and Xemnas where destroyed or was because when both of them where slain Young Xehanort came into action and brought him back along with all of his incarnations. If it was because merley Ansem and Xemnas where defeated then what happened to his Terra half? Will Terra- Xehanort be revived or has he been picked up from the past to join the new organization? Does this mean Terra is free? Or if YX came into action and recluted him that means there is no Terra-Xehanort in the present because Ansem and Xemnas have been pulled out from their places in time and thus not being able to recomplete Terra-Xehanort. Meaning that Master Xehanort belongs to the time where he was about or after he confronted Terra, Ven and Aqua. Edited September 9, 2012 by geocenter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helios X 6 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) I also think that YX could time travel to a destination in time and use his time reversal move that he uses in battle to heal his HP to revive diffrent versions of himself. For example: lets say when Xemnas was defeated, YX could have time travel unnoticed to the place where Xemnas was slain and use that move on the location of his death to revive him. That would also explain why some of the organization members where not recomplited. Any comments? Edited September 9, 2012 by geocenter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage God 4 Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) that could be the case where they were in dreams of the past worlds young xehanort had visited main because the sora and riku were suppose to go to the worlds corresponding with the seven princesses according to yen sid. The worlds sora and riku were suppose to go to were Castle of Dreams, Dwarf Woodlands, Enchanted Dominion, Beast's Castle, Destiny Islands, Wonderland and Agrabah. If you are wondering when did yen sid say that go find the cutscene where lea is talking to yen sid. The only thing i don't get is why did sora go back to traverse town when he went back into the realm of dreams. We will just have to wait til KH3 to explain everything Edited September 10, 2012 by Rage God Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomKarts_:P 14 Posted September 10, 2012 I also think that YX could time travel to a destination in time and use his time reversal move that he uses in battle to heal his HP to revive diffrent versions of himself. For example: lets say when Xemnas was defeated, YX could have time travel unnoticed to the place where Xemnas was slain and use that move on the location of his death to revive him. That would also explain why some of the organization members where not recomplited. Any comments? Sounds nice but i doubt it happened because it is unnecessary. If ymx summoned everyone at the same time... i guess he visited them much before they die. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites