HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 1, 2012 he means ven when he says sora and another on list is missing ( ven ) he knows sora carriees is heart within him No he means he has Terra . Ven cant be one of the darknesses bc his body is in CO still .. Fact .. But MX already stated he still possesses Terra 3 Demyx., luka and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) he means ven when he says sora and another on list is missing ( ven ) he knows sora carriees is heart within him MX needs a body not a heart so why would he refer to Ven as a vessel when his body is locked away in castle oblivion. Edited September 1, 2012 by devereauxr 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rizar14 8 Posted September 1, 2012 No he means he has Terra . Ven cant be one of the darknesses bc his body is in CO still .. Fact .. But MX already stated he still possesses Terra this is just like when i stated that nightmare ven armor was the final boss and that axel would get a keyblade. if you watch the sence he says yes that means your three GOL short sora the 7th and ??? so think what sounds more promising. well i think ven it makes perfect sence sora has vens heart so therfore ven would have "would have" be a darkness. as for terra hasnt it already been said by mikey we only need aqua now so i think eraquas saved terra and is one of the darknesses soo yeah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 1, 2012 this is just like when i stated that nightmare ven armor was the final boss and that axel would get a keyblade. if you watch the sence he says yes that means your three GOL short sora the 7th and ??? so think what sounds more promising. well i think ven it makes perfect sence sora has vens heart so therfore ven would have "would have" be a darkness. as for terra hasnt it already been said by mikey we only need aqua now so i think eraquas saved terra and is one of the darknesses soo yeah MX cant use Ven as a darkness bc HE HAS NO BODY . PERIOD . Lets use common sense . If hes saying who he has on his side as a darkness how the heck can Ven be a darkness when they have no body? . Also , do you have any idea how many other hearts are also in Sora bc its been confirmed they all grew hearts . I also said Lea would get a keyblade and that MX split his heart into Saix and Xigbar before this game even came out so how are your 'predictions ' relevant ? They arent . Fact is , to be a darkness they need a body . .MX DOESNT HAVE VENS BODY > FACT. So no that doesnt make sense . We do however know he has Terras. 3 Robbie the Wise, luka and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) this is just like when i stated that nightmare ven armor was the final boss and that axel would get a keyblade. if you watch the sence he says yes that means your three GOL short sora the 7th and ??? so think what sounds more promising. well i think ven it makes perfect sence sora has vens heart so therfore ven would have "would have" be a darkness. as for terra hasnt it already been said by mikey we only need aqua now so i think eraquas saved terra and is one of the darknesses soo yeah No it's never been confirmed that MX knew where Ven's heart was. He might of guessed because of Roxas and Xion, but he didn't know for sure. All the Nort's stated they needed bodies to make vessel. The 13 Darknesses = bodies with Xehanort's heart pieces in them.Mickey never stated that aqua was the only one that needed saving, he just acknowledged that she needed to be found. Also explain to me how eraqus saved Terra when Master Xehanort is still using his body. Edited September 1, 2012 by devereauxr 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeWielder_ 161 Posted September 3, 2012 I seriously doubt that it will be Kairi. She used a Keyblade for a half of a second and we already have Aqua who basically was the Kairi of the past. Go grab your 3DS and read the title of the secret ending. Then you'll probably want to delete or edit this comment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HikariYami 354 Posted September 3, 2012 Go grab your 3DS and read the title of the secret ending. Then you'll probably want to delete or edit this comment You still can't be so sure.Everybody is still up in the air. Nothing is certain in KH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeWielder_ 161 Posted September 4, 2012 You still can't be so sure. Everybody is still up in the air. Nothing is certain in KH. Yeah but this is. For the time being. She'll probably get kidnapped or turned to the darkness or something... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oniaku 280 Posted September 4, 2012 Okay, non evil wielders currently completely alive and whole - Riku, Sora, Mickey, Kairi, Lea, Aqua So, we'll see what happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultima Spark 753 Posted September 4, 2012 turned to the darkness ...she's a princess of heart. How does that make sense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) I sure as hell Roxas is a light instead of Lea (if it had to be between the two). Roxas is light, it's his attribute, he has far more skill than Lea in the Keyblade plus being shown at the end of DDD's opening with the others and the fact he's bound to become his own person just makes it seem like he belongs there. Lea just got a Keyblade while the others have trained for years (bar Kairi but she's a special case) he can't just become a light now. That and he just switched to the good guys side. It just seems kind of...ridiculous. They're doing too much too fast with and for him. Edited September 4, 2012 by Winner's Proof Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) I sure as hell Roxas is a light instead of Lea (if it had to be between the two). Roxas is light, it's his attribute, plus being shown at the end of DDD's opening with the others just made it seem like he belonged there. Lea just got a Keyblade while the others have trained for years (bar Kairi) he can't just become a light now. That and he just switched to the good guys side. It just seems kind of... Number one the intro is not canon so that moots that logic,also Lea has ten+ years of fighting experience enough to hold his own against the likes of Sora,Roxas and Marluxia. Number two technically speaking by your own logic all the original Organization members were on the dark side by working for the Organization. This includes Roxas who was a focal point in gather the hearts necessary to complete Kingdom Hearts. All any of them were trying to do was get their hearts back, to them the ends justified the means.If their actions hurt or effected other people it didn't matter to them ( Hell as a far as they knew they couldn't feel remorse any way) as long as they furthered their chance to be whole again. To further my point why do you think Axel, and Siax were planning to overthrow the Organization they knew that Xemnas's Plans were not as they appeared, and that had the plans continued most likely they would not have got their hearts back. Axel/Lea didn't just switch sides he never trusted Xemnas from the beggining and was always working against him. In chain of memories he even saved Sora from having his memories destroyed I think Axel's time Sora affected his heart growth and he's come to see him as just a good a friend as Roxas.Sacrificing himself to save Sora was his way of showing this, he didn't have to do that in fact it would have benifited him if the nobodies split him up again. Axel/Lea chose to redeem himself many times over it's quite clear and at the end of the day it's quite clear whose side he's on. Edited September 4, 2012 by devereauxr 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caity 3,946 Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Go grab your 3DS and read the title of the secret ending. Then you'll probably want to delete or edit this comment PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF THIS MORE. I still don't see how people are debating her as a guardian given the title .___.' Edited September 5, 2012 by Caity Raindrop 1 KeybladeWielder_ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted September 4, 2012 Number one the intro is not canon so that moots that logic,also Lea has ten+ years of fighting experience enough to hold his own against the likes of Sora,Roxas and Marluxia. Number two technically speaking by your own logic all the original Organization members were on the dark side by working for the Organization. This includes Roxas who was a focal point in gather the hearts necessary to complete Kingdom Hearts. All any of them were trying to do was get their hearts back, no matter what the cost was that was their intentions. If their actions hurt or effected other people it didn't matter to them ( Hell as a far as they knew they couldn't feel remorse any way) as long as they furthered their chance to be whole again. To further my point why do you think Axel, and Siax were planning to overthrow the Organization they knew that Xemnas's Plans were not as they appeared, and that had the plans continued most likely they would not have got their hearts back. Axel/Lea didn't just switch sides he never trusted Xemnas from the beggining and was always working against him. In chain of memories he even saved Sora from having his memories destroyed I think Axel's time Sora affected his heart growth and he's come to see him as just a good a friend as Roxas.Sacrificing himself to save Sora was his way of showing this, he didn't have to do that in fact it would have benifited him if the nobodies split him up again. Axel/Lea chose to redeem himself many times over it's quite clear and at the end of the day it's quite clear whose side he's on. I wasn't really making a serious point there, or any point at all just that I liked how it looked with Roxas there... Good for him but being good at chakrams won't make him good with a keyblade, however should be somehow by KHIII timeline have completed the MoM exam then I'll take back what I said. Yeah but there is a difference between working for the bad guys because you have no memories and didn't know any better and...Axel. OK, they were going to overthrow him but do we know what they were going to do after? If we don't then we can't really discuss that part any further. And at the very end of Castle Oblivion he was willing to destroy Namine just to get to Marluxia. Goodbye Sora's important memories, not that Axel seemed to care or anything, his redemption doesn't come around until the end of KHII. Yeah, it is clear which side he's on, he's a good guy now...but I knew that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 4, 2012 I wasn't really making a serious point there, or any point at all just that I liked how it looked with Roxas there... Good for him but being good at chakrams won't make him good with a keyblade, however should be somehow by KHIII timeline have completed the MoM exam then I'll take back what I said. Yeah but there is a difference between working for the bad guys because you have no memories and didn't know any better and...Axel. OK, they were going to overthrow him but do we know what they were going to do after? If we don't then we can't really discuss that part any further. And at the very end of Castle Oblivion he was willing to destroy Namine just to get to Marluxia. Goodbye Sora's important memories, not that Axel seemed to care or anything, his redemption doesn't come around until the end of KHII. Yeah, it is clear which side he's on, he's a good guy now...but I knew that? Considering Xemnas already confirmed he lied to all the org members about his real intentions, the majority were in the org for the sole reason of getting their hearts back . That really doesnt make them evil , they just lacked the morality about how they went about it bc they didnt have hearts to feel it .Axel was working to get his heart back as well as Saix. Axel wasnt intending to kill Namine per se , he just wasnt gonna stop bc she was around .That doesnt mean he was gonna kill her either .Heck , He let her GO .Axel also stated he gets stuck with the 'icky ' jobs bc he doesnt actually like doing it .He didnt even want to actually kill Vexen and stated it was regrettable.Axel was always doing his own thing even back in CO..He helped save Sora in CO and in KH2 .This was before he even was human again .Obviously he did some bad things ( hello he was a nobody ) but he learned from them and overcame them. The more he grew a heart the more he acted like it . Given your logic, Riku shouldnt be a light either , huh? Riku did what he did in KH1 as a human with a heart and look what he did .. Yet he redeemed himself just like Axel/Lea...Also saying that his 10 years of fighting doesnt count bc it wasnt with a keyblade is absurd . Yes he needs keyblade training but 10 years experience in fighting period goes a long way.Look at Riku , he used Soul Eater up until the end of KH2 .Which means hes barely used the keyblade when he entered the MoM yet hes a master now . 3 Robbie the Wise, luka and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) I wasn't really making a serious point there, or any point at all just that I liked how it looked with Roxas there... Good for him but being good at chakrams won't make him good with a keyblade, however should be somehow by KHIII timeline have completed the MoM exam then I'll take back what I said. Yeah but there is a difference between working for the bad guys because you have no memories and didn't know any better and...Axel. OK, they were going to overthrow him but do we know what they were going to do after? If we don't then we can't really discuss that part any further. And at the very end of Castle Oblivion he was willing to destroy Namine just to get to Marluxia. Goodbye Sora's important memories, not that Axel seemed to care or anything, his redemption doesn't come around until the end of KHII. Yeah, it is clear which side he's on, he's a good guy now...but I knew that? So your saying that taking on and succesfully fending off Sora, Roxas and Marluxia with chackrams btw means that he doesn't have the combat skills to wield the keyblade that makes no sense. Sora and Riku had zero experience wielding the weapon and they became two of the most powerful weilders in the series. TVA were also trained oficially their whole lives but once they were thrown into a real threat it was clear they were inexeperienced.Hell even Marluxia appeared to be afraid of Axel which is why he chose to use namine as a human shield. That fact that Axel was willing to hurt her does mean much and whose to say he would have destoyed her. Like I said in my previous post all the nobodies believed that they had no emotions, so why would hurting namine to fullfill his objective bother him. Also he let her go anyway so idk why you use that as an example. Ummm the whole point of them trying to takeover the was so they could actually do what Xemnas promised them orignally get their hearts back. They knew as long as Xemnas was in charge that wasn't going to happen. So anybody could logically figure out what they would have done had they suceeded. Edited September 4, 2012 by devereauxr 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted September 4, 2012 So your saying that taking on and succesfully fending off Sora, Roxas and Marluxia with chackrams btw means that he doesn't have the combat skills to wield the keyblade that makes no sense. Sora and Riku had zero experience wielding the weapon and they became two of the most powerful weilders in the series. TVA were also trained oficially their whole lives but once they were thrown into a real threat it was clear they were inexeperienced. Hell even Marluxia appeared to be afraid of Axel which is why he chose to use namine as a human shield. That fact that Axel was willing to hurt her does mean much and whose to say he would have destoyed her. Like I said in my previous post all the nobodies believed that they had no emotions, so why would hurting namine to fullfill his objective bother him. Also he let her go anyway so idk why you use that as an example. Ummm the whole point of them trying to takeover the was so they could actually do what Xemnas promised them orignally get their hearts back. They knew as long as Xemnas was in charge that wasn't going to happen. So anybody could logically figure out what they would have done had they suceeded. Well...no. Because if that's what I was saying then...I would have actually said it...? Keyblades and chakrams are two different fighting styles. He's good with the chakrams doesn't mean he can be just as good with the keyblade. Yes, Sora and Riku did become two of the best. It only took them two years of transporting between worlds, crossing between realms, and endless fights all the while to get them ready for the final fight. If they can get Lea all that training then ok. Who's to say he wouldn't have? Exactly it wouldn't bother him, which is why he'd have no qualms destroying Namine. Thanks for that. You're acting like he let her go out of the goodness of his heart. So they want to overthrow Xemnas just to get their hearts back, no other reason. I'm gonna need a source to believe that. Axel doesn't imply once that he even cares about having a heart until his time with the Organization is nearing it's end. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Well...no. Because if that's what I was saying then...I would have actually said it...? Keyblades and chakrams are two different fighting styles. He's good with the chakrams doesn't mean he can be just as good with the keyblade. Yes, Sora and Riku did become two of the best. It only took them two years of transporting between worlds, crossing between realms, and endless fights all the while to get them ready for the final fight. If they can get Lea all that training then ok. Who's to say he wouldn't have? Exactly it wouldn't bother him, which is why he'd have no qualms destroying Namine. Thanks for that. You're acting like he let her go out of the goodness of his heart. So they want to overthrow Xemnas just to get their hearts back, no other reason. I'm gonna need a source to believe that. Axel doesn't imply once that he even cares about having a heart until his time with the Organization is nearing it's end. . Axel let Namine go so she could go help .This is fact .Don't know why you get he just let her for no reasons .He had reasons.Never did he say he was gonna kill her either . Saix straight up says when his friendship broke with Axel that now that Axels is 'gone' they'll never get their hearts back since the plan was then called off with their broken friendship..Axel also talks with Saix many times about emotions and whatnot and Saix mocks him for it .This is in Days too. Riku didnt have years of training with the keyblade .He had SOUL EATER up until the end of KH2.Right after that came DDD and the MoM.Riku didnt have much experience with his keyblade . When Sora saved the world even in KH1 he just got his keyblade with NO training and still beat Ansem Also like i stated above , with your logic Riku shouldnt be a light either bc he did what he did as a human with a heart and still firetrucked up everything before he redeemed himself later on .Yet Riku is a light . Edited September 4, 2012 by Flaming Lea 3 luka, Robbie the Wise and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted September 4, 2012 Axel let Namine go so she could go help .This is fact .Don't know why you get he just let her for no reasons .He had reasons.Never did he say he was gonna kill her either . Saix straight up says when his friendship broke with Axel that now that Axels is 'gone' they'll never get their hearts back since the plan was then called off with their broken friendship..Axel also talks with Saix many times about emotions and whatnot and Saix mocks him for it .This is in Days too. Riku didnt have years of training with the keyblade .He had SOUL EATER up until the end of KH2.Right after that came DDD and the MoM.Riku didnt have much experience with his keyblade . When Sora saved the world even in KH1 he just got his keyblade with NO training and still beat Ansem Also like i stated above , with your logic Riku shouldnt be a light either bc he did what he did as a human with a heart and still firetrucked up everything before he redeemed himself later on .Yet Riku is a light . He lets her go then says to himself "Sora make this interesting. It's the least you could do for me" followed by an evil giggle. Your definition of fact and mine must be quite different. These events are just entertainment for him. That only proves getting their hearts back was part of the plan. Doesn't mean that's where they would have stopped. Especially when Saix of all people is part of this. OK he didn't have years of training with the keyblade he had years of training with something he wields and fights with just like he would a keyblade. Huge difference, right? Like massive! Yes KH1 Sora did that, what KH1 Sora couldn't do is partake in the 13darknesses + 7 lights (10 if we go by your theory) battle (something Lea would have to do if he's a light). He would have been brutally punished. So yeah he needed all the experience he's built over these 2 years. But Riku's spent a year to two on the battlefield gaining experience, atoning and learning to control the darkness that's haunted him since KH1 (which has now proved to be a real help) so if Lea does the same and ends up in their ranks in terms of skill then fine I have no qualms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted September 4, 2012 Riku didnt have years of training with the keyblade .He had SOUL EATER up until the end of KH2.Right after that came DDD and the MoM.Riku didnt have much experience with his keyblade . When Sora saved the world even in KH1 he just got his keyblade with NO training and still beat Ansem I think what they meant was that Riku has experience with fighting with weapons similar to the Keyblade; those wooden swords he and Sora used on the islands. While all Lea ever used were chakram like weapons. It doesn't mean Lea will never learn how to use a completly different weapon/style of fighting, it's just that it was easier for Riku because Soul Eater/Way to the Dawn are similar to what he's been so used to using. The only thing left was for Riku and Sora to unlock and use the power from the Keyblade themselves and their heart. While Lea has to do that, plus how to physically use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 4, 2012 He lets her go then says to himself "Sora make this interesting. It's the least you could do for me" followed by an evil giggle. Your definition of fact and mine must be quite different. These events are just entertainment for him. That only proves getting their hearts back was part of the plan. Doesn't mean that's where they would have stopped. Especially when Saix of all people is part of this. OK he didn't have years of training with the keyblade he had years of training with something he wields and fights with just like he would a keyblade. Huge difference, right? Like massive! Yes KH1 Sora did that, what KH1 Sora couldn't do is partake in the 13darknesses + 7 lights (10 if we go by your theory) battle (something Lea would have to do if he's a light). He would have been brutally punished. So yeah he needed all the experience he's built over these 2 years. But Riku's spent a year to two on the battlefield gaining experience, atoning and learning to control the darkness that's haunted him since KH1 (which has now proved to be a real help) so if Lea does the same and ends up in their ranks in terms of skill then fine I have no qualms. But see , Axel was atoning and battling within himself way before he got his heart back . This started in CoM and Days as he was exposed to Roxas and Sora. Even In Days he reports how his views and emotions have changed over time . Axels changes were like a revolution of his character . He knew in CoM that Sora was Roxas' somebody so he reasons to help Sora . He was trying to "save " sora in is own words . Yes he still had ways to go but he was still changing .When he let Namine go he knew she would help firetruck up the plans in CO .Thats why he said what he did . He wanted Namine to help . I dont see why you cant see that . He has more reasons to help her than to hurt her .He just chooses to accomplish his plans in an entertaining way. Hes always been playful since we ever saw him , especially in BBS.As for his and Saix's plan , we were told they were trying to get their hearts back . There has been no indication given they were trying to do anything else. If and when its said differently than you can say they were up to no good .Until then its not what they were doing . Also I dont think Saix was neccessarily evil , it was being 'norted that really changed him .. But even despite being Norted he still was trying to rebel , but the changes going on inside him destroyed who he originally was over time . Yes Riku atoned but so had Axel/Lea and saying that redemption only counts for one and not the other is silly . Riku did almost his entire 'experience' before DDD without a keyblade yet he did FINE Soul Eater ISNT a keyblade ..Period . And is NOT used the same no matter what you say .. Its no different than using chackrams..Its a different weapon .. Yet Riku did better than Sora even in DDD . Yes chackrams are different but its still fighting experience . Hes not going in blindsided with no experience . He has plenty . Plus receiving even MORE training with Merlin will only speed this up . I think what they meant was that Riku has experience with fighting with weapons similar to the Keyblade; those wooden swords he and Sora used on the islands. While all Lea ever used were chakram like weapons. It doesn't mean Lea will never learn how to use a completly different weapon/style of fighting, it's just that it was easier for Riku because Soul Eater/Way to the Dawn are similar to what he's been so used to using. The only thing left was for Riku and Sora to unlock and use the power from the Keyblade themselves and their heart. While Lea has to do that, plus how to physically use it. Soul Eater isnt a keyblade though .It has different powers . Also , I was also using Riku as a point that no matter what mistakes people make , if they atone and make things right and are trying to do good it shouldnt be said they cant be trusted to be a light . Riku is the perfect example of this because of his past and how he overcame his mistakes and atoned .Just like Lea ... Yet he was using what Axel did in the past as a reason why Lea cant be a light when the same can be said about Riku . I believe both Riku and Lea have atoned and deserve that chance . 3 luka, Demyx. and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) So they want to overthrow Xemnas just to get their hearts back, no other reason. I'm gonna need a source to believe that. Axel doesn't imply once that he even cares about having a heart until his time with the Organization is nearing it's end. These are all taken form the days reports.Day 356: Unforeseen Events Author: Siax Our plans never accounted for the possibility of both Xion and Roxas leaving. How did this come to pass? When did Roxas grow strong enough to outmuscle me? What were you really after, Lea? We joined the Organization at the same time, and formulated our plan. At this point, it's just an idle fantasy. Everything changed. You, and me. This right here proves that Siax and Axel planned to over throw Xemnas's plans from the beggining, they were told by obtaining kingdom hearts they could return to their existence obviously they thought that he was lying or they never would not have attemptted to take over the Organization. So they took the next logical step and decided to take over the Organization as a way of ensuring that it would happen. They made use of the fact that the keyblade wielder whether it was Roxas or Xion could gather hearts for them to further their plans. Even Siax was suprised how well things were going. Day 94: All Goes Apace Author: Saïx The hearts collected by our two Keyblade wielders, Roxas and Xion, have gathered together; and now, almighty Kingdom Hearts waxes large in the night sky. Our efforts have come to bear fruit, nearly ripe for the plucking. All plans proceed smoothly - alarmingly so, in fact, though this is no time to be deterred by paranoia. As far as they knew Kingdom Hearts was the only way that they could regain their hearts that was the goall of ALL the Organization members except Xigbar and Xemnas. He lets her go then says to himself "Sora make this interesting. It's the least you could do for me" followed by an evil giggle. Your definition of fact and mine must be quite different. These events are just entertainment for him. That only proves getting their hearts back was part of the plan. Doesn't mean that's where they would have stopped. Especially when Saix of all people is part of this. I think your starting to grasp at straws here using an evil giggle as a way push your point is a bit of a stretch especially seeing as he knew that letting Namine go would screw up Marluxia's plan(As far as Axel was concerned his job was done he just let Sora pick up the pieces). After they came into their own existence what else would they have to accomplish. Please show me where it indicated anywhere that Siax and Axel were planning anything else other then regain their hearts. If I take time out to look for evidence to back up my claims should have the courtesy to do the same for your counter claims. OK he didn't have years of training with the keyblade he had years of training with something he wields and fights with just like he would a keyblade. Huge difference, right? Like massive! Yes KH1 Sora did that, what KH1 Sora couldn't do is partake in the 13darknesses + 7 lights (10 if we go by your theory) battle (something Lea would have to do if he's a light). He would have been brutally punished. So yeah he needed all the experience he's built over these 2 years. But Riku's spent a year to two on the battlefield gaining experience, atoning and learning to control the darkness that's haunted him since KH1 (which has now proved to be a real help) so if Lea does the same and ends up in their ranks in terms of skill then fine I have no qualms. The difference is that soul eater and a keyblade are two different weapons. There is a solid difference between a fighting style which does not change and wielding a weapon that has properties that you are not used to. Riku's fighting style is similar to when he used soul eater, but he still had to make adjustments to accomodate the keyblades capabilites. Lea has to do that as well but that does not mean he can't be a light remember they're chosen naturally. At the end of the day Soul Eater, and the chackrams are normal weapons with no where near the capabilties of the keyblade. I think what they meant was that Riku has experience with fighting with weapons similar to the Keyblade; those wooden swords he and Sora used on the islands. While all Lea ever used were chakram like weapons. It doesn't mean Lea will never learn how to use a completly different weapon/style of fighting, it's just that it was easier for Riku because Soul Eater/Way to the Dawn are similar to what he's been so used to using. The only thing left was for Riku and Sora to unlock and use the power from the Keyblade themselves and their heart. While Lea has to do that, plus how to physically use it. I don't really see it as a huge issue the keyblade is a weapon tied to it's master's heart. It appears to me that Axel's Keyblade has already adjusted itself to Axel's fighting style. The form that it took also suggests that it used the chakram as an intermediary in the same way that Riku's keyblade used Soul eater as an intermediary.The keyblade forms to accomodate the user's style a prime example of this is Ventus's Keyblade. Edited September 4, 2012 by devereauxr 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted September 4, 2012 I don't really see it as a huge issue the keyblade is a weapon tied to it's master's heart. It appears to me that Axel's Keyblade has already adjusted itself to Axel's fighting style. The form that it took also suggests that it used the chakram as an intermediary in the same way that Riku's keyblade used Soul eater as an intermediary.The keyblade forms to accomodate the user's style a prime example of this is Ventus's Keyblade. I was only ellaborating what I thought Winner meant with the whole weapon thing. That was it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HikariYami 354 Posted September 4, 2012 Yeah but this is. For the time being. She'll probably get kidnapped or turned to the darkness or something... No not really although it says Another Guardian of Light you still can't be sure. I am not saying she is or not. Neutral, but I was once against it.I'll grab my 3DS and quote word for word the part of the secret ending which could be misconstrued. "The keyblade was divided into seven parts to protect the 7 pure hearts." See here is where is it gets tricky. Kingdom Hearts wouldn't pick her to protect herself because that is almost suicide. She will protect herself but will have extra protection so it would be harder for her heart to be captured. Moving on. Indeed. Those seven pure hearts form the very source of all light in the world. If they are lost, the world will again give way to shadow. Thus, even if we deliberately avoid finding our seven lights to avert another Keyblade war, Xehanort will still target the seven princesses in order to forge the keyblade. To protect the seven pure hearts, we will need seven lights strong enough to stand against the thirteen darknesses. Riku says," Master Yen Sid, I brought you the "guest" you askeed for but... you never said why. Back to Yen Sid," I have come to learn that you, too, can wield a keyblade. I am glad you are here." Guardians Protect the 7 lights. Kairi is a princess of heart. Someone else has to step up. Master Yen Sid may need to use his keyblade if he is eligible to be picked. KH3 will definately reveal who is the last light is. This secret ending has meaning to it but it is edgy. Nothing is actually confirmed and more than likely she will just train to protect herself. They need to keep her away from fighting, but she needs to know how to defend herself just in case of what Master Yen Sid says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted September 4, 2012 I was only ellaborating what I thought Winner meant with the whole weapon thing. That was it. Lol just pointing it out. Dev still likes you kishi 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites