KH3D So, about Axel. (MAJOR Spoilers)`

[Caity 3,946]

no Ven never met Sora or Riku in person...in DI he confronted Vanitas...only Aqua and Terra met them and still Sora and Riku don't remember them...even though at 3D he mentions something about it I think of what I've seen in the cutscenes but can't remember if it was when he met Ansem the Wise

 

Then unless Roxas has a talk with people over the people he met and describes them, they mighten be be none the wiser that Ven is within Sora.

Near the end he meets everyone trapped in Sora's heart, recognizing Roxas and DiZ but not knowing who Xion or Ven are. He meets DiZ after he meets the other 3

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

My theory's that Lea will rescue Aqua, she will find Ven's body with Sora and co' and once Sora is near it, his heart will return to him. The organization would probably be right behind them following and there may be a battle in the room (though at this point it's really just theories o.o the most random unexpected events could happen with Nomura)

 

Sora would need to release Ven's heart with the Keyblade. Hopefully he can learn from last time and just release Ven's heart and not his own

[Caity 3,946]

I think they know Aqua is there but would rather keep her there, after all what bad guy wants another Keyblade Master ruining their plans. Ven may not be able to be tracked due to the fact that the room is a Keyblade Master secret that Xehanort himself knew not the way in or that it even existed. So there's no way Ven could be found. And remember Xemnas was talking to Aqua's armor, he must know of her whereabouts. Lea did not lose the X until his death as Axel so he was still being tracked for the longest time. Again, just all theories here

 

We all have so many intertwining complicated theories and mer see the next game it turns out they're all bunnies in costume just cosplaying. I think that it was the part of Terra that was talking to Aqua, simply for comfort I don't think it necessarily implies he knows where she is. It might be like Yen Sid and all who know that she's in the realm of darkness, but where abouts in the darkness is yet to be confirmed (cause I would assume if they knew exactly where she was, they would have got her by now) same way as they know Ven's bodys SOMEWHERE in castle oblivion, but the room he's in, no.

 

Sora would need to release Ven's heart with the Keyblade. Hopefully he can learn from last time and just release Ven's heart and not his own

 

And in the process of releasing Ven's heart he might release Xion's and Roxas' too o:?

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

We all have so many intertwining complicated theories and mer see the next game it turns out they're all bunnies in costume just cosplaying. I think that it was the part of Terra that was talking to Aqua, simply for comfort I don't think it necessarily implies he knows where she is. It might be like Yen Sid and all who know that she's in the realm of darkness, but where abouts in the darkness is yet to be confirmed (cause I would assume if they knew exactly where she was, they would have got her by now) same way as they know Ven's bodys SOMEWHERE in castle oblivion, but the room he's in, no.

 

 

 

And in the process of releasing Ven's heart he might release Xion's and Roxas' too o:?

 

We're pulling Nomura's and sorry fanboys/fangirls but I don't think Xion and Roxas are coming back in physical bodies. They're a part of Sora and need to stay within him otheriwise he gets messed up. Ven's heart is the only one that will leave because it never belonged to Sora in the first place.

[lizzie1238 538]

The only way I can see Lea being one of the lights is if Terra isn't rescued in time. I really hope they'll rescue him though. And even if Lea isn't a light, he's still going to be helping out, so it doesn't really matter.

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

The only way I can see Lea being one of the lights is if Terra isn't rescued in time. I really hope they'll rescue him though. And even if Lea isn't a light, he's still going to be helping out, so it doesn't really matter.

 

Lea's definitely a light, he's Nomura's pet lol

[lizzie1238 538]

Lea's definitely a light, he's Nomura's pet lol

 

And I think that would be unfair. His entire character has pretty much been based around fan service, him coming back, him getting a keyblade. I don't think it's fair for him to be a light just because he's a character that many people like.

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

And I think that would be unfair. His entire character has pretty much been based around fan service, him coming back, him getting a keyblade. I don't think it's fair for him to be a light just because he's a character that many people like.

 

Who said it was fair? lol it's Nomura's game when it comes down to it so he calls the shots. I personally have no problem with Lea being a light (I'm biased though because I've been a fan of him since COM).

[Caity 3,946]

We're pulling Nomura's and sorry fanboys/fangirls but I don't think Xion and Roxas are coming back in physical bodies. They're a part of Sora and need to stay within him otheriwise he gets messed up. Ven's heart is the only one that will leave because it never belonged to Sora in the first place.

 

But (I believe it was DiZ) made the implication that once Sora started seeing Roxas as his own being, "When he sees the heart in something, it becomes real"

He'll become his own being (and so wouldn't the same be for Xion I'd think). I'm not sure about Xion since all she was was basically data and Sora didn't know her, but I think it's a good possibility with Roxas since he knew him, and says to him something along the lines of what DiZ says

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKwQn0GiE0s

When Roxas says he can feel what he felt he corrects him (1:04)

He's already seen Roxas as his own being.

 

And I think that would be unfair. His entire character has pretty much been based around fan service, him coming back, him getting a keyblade. I don't think it's fair for him to be a light just because he's a character that many people like.

 

Riku is a guardian of light with the power of darkness, I think Lea would be the same and wouldn't need to give up his dark powers (like the corridors to darkness and all) to be a guardian of light.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

And I think that would be unfair. His entire character has pretty much been based around fan service, him coming back, him getting a keyblade. I don't think it's fair for him to be a light just because he's a character that many people like.

 

Actually this statement is kinda unfair .. Yes Axel/Lea is popular , but if anybody deserved a keyblade its him . His story has been tragic from the beginning and hes lost everything dear to him and grew from his mistakes .Hes probably one of the most well developed characters in the series and we all have been there to watch step by step.He's self sacrificing ,loyal and has grown in this series . Hes come to Soras rescue several times and overcame a lot of adversity..Its not like hes a new character thats been Gary Stu'd..Ya, know? In other words, he earned it .

Edited August 22, 2012 by Flaming Lea

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

But (I believe it was DiZ) made the implication that once Sora started seeing Roxas as his own being, "When he sees the heart in something, it becomes real"

He'll become his own being (and so wouldn't the same be for Xion I'd think). I'm not sure about Xion since all she was was basically data and Sora didn't know her, but I think it's a good possibility with Roxas since he knew him, and says to him something along the lines of what DiZ says

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKwQn0GiE0s

When Roxas says he can feel what he felt he corrects him (1:04)

He's already seen Roxas as his own being.

 

 

 

Riku is a guardian of light with the power of darkness, I think Lea would be the same and wouldn't need to give up his dark powers (like the corridors to darkness and all) to be a guardian of light.

 

Roxas could very well become his own person, I'll give you that. But then what about Namine?

[Caity 3,946]

Roxas could very well become his own person, I'll give you that. But then what about Namine?

 

Namine was a very unique nobody, being born unusually and from a princess of pure light, there could be a whole list of possibly unexplained loop holes to her getting her own self. Sora might just do the same with Roxas (if it works) with Namine, cause he knows she exists and that she's residing in Kairi just like Roxas within him. Technically though I think Kairi would need to be stabbed with a keybalde same way Sora needs to release the others hearts. Maybe in a battle near the climax, Kairi will be brutally hurt (by Terra, the only keyblade wielder I assume is one of the 13 vessels, though hasn't been confirmed ) and release Namine?

God, it hurts my head trying to unravel all these plots

[HikariYami 354]

If MX wouldn't expect a POH to have a keyblade, then by that admission, wouldn't she be an obvious choice to be used a a Guardian? Even Yen Sid mentioned that he asked her to come BECAUSE she can wield the keyblade...not to mention Mickey was just wondering who the 7th wielder is and in came Kairi. No need to overthink it, it's Kairi

 

Gaurdian of light is someone who protects the light (POH)

She can't protect herself as a POH that would be stupid, so someone else will fill that spot. She will be a keyblade wielder even maybe a master but not a guardian when she houses a piece of the remaining light in the world, so someone will protect her regardless if she has a keyblade or not.

And also, Lea was being trained before the end of KH3D. Kairi might not be a "guardian" but she is still a guardian.

If that makes any sense. They will need a back up.

 

 

We can't assume who will be a the 7th.

Roxas and Xion- they may become his own self.

Lea- he is on the fence

Kairi- she is on the fence

Terra

Anything is possible; everything is up in the air.

[XIIISwords 1,059]

So it seems illogical, but does anyone else think that the scene at the beginning of KH DDD could be the seven? It was Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, and Roxas.

Here's where it makes sense.

• Together they are the main playable heroes of each of the games, barring Mickey who embodies Disney.
• Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ventus are almost undisputed. They can all logically be together.
• Kairi shouldn't be a Light because there should be a Light to protect each princess of heart. Her being a Light and a Princess would leave Good vs. Evil 13 vs. 13, compared to 14 vs. 13, which would be better for Sora and Co. (Then again, 13 is a powerful number in the game).
• They were all together in one of the most beautiful cutscenes in the series- 3D's opening.

Here's where there are gaps.

• Terra is already with Xehanort. But he could always be saved, like Riku in KH1.
• Roxas is currently "nonexistant," but he was said to be one of the ones Sora would save in Re:coded. It was also proved by Ansem the Wise that Roxas had grown his own heart.
• Terra switching over to the Light side would leave Xehanort looking for another vessel. This is solved by him finding another vessel.
• Donald and Goofy appeared in the opening too, but we're all discounting them.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

So it seems illogical, but does anyone else think that the scene at the beginning of KH DDD could be the seven? It was Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, and Roxas.

Here's where it makes sense.

• Together they are the main playable heroes of each of the games, barring Mickey who embodies Disney.

• Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ventus are almost undisputed. They can all logically be together.

• Kairi shouldn't be a Light because there should be a Light to protect each princess of heart. Her being a Light and a Princess would leave Good vs. Evil 13 vs. 13, compared to 14 vs. 13, which would be better for Sora and Co. (Then again, 13 is a powerful number in the game).

• They were all together in one of the most beautiful cutscenes in the series- 3D's opening.

Here's where there are gaps.

• Terra is already with Xehanort. But he could always be saved, like Riku in KH1.

• Roxas is currently "nonexistant," but he was said to be one of the ones Sora would save in Re:coded. It was also proved by Ansem the Wise that Roxas had grown his own heart.

• Terra switching over to the Light side would leave Xehanort looking for another vessel. This is solved by him finding another vessel.

• Donald and Goofy appeared in the opening too, but we're all discounting them.

 

 

Well Nomura already confirmed the opening isnt canon and that Kairi wasnt in it . He also said we would be surprised on who they actually are so its hard to say. Also putting Lea and Kairi in the opening wouldve been spoilers so if they were lights they still wouldnt have put them in the opening

[The Protagonist 332]

I seriously doubt that it will be Kairi. She used a Keyblade for a half of a second and we already have Aqua who basically was the Kairi of the past.

 

yeah but shes gonna get training

[Caity 3,946]

So it seems illogical, but does anyone else think that the scene at the beginning of KH DDD could be the seven? It was Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, and Roxas.

Here's where it makes sense.

• Together they are the main playable heroes of each of the games, barring Mickey who embodies Disney.

• Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ventus are almost undisputed. They can all logically be together.

• Kairi shouldn't be a Light because there should be a Light to protect each princess of heart. Her being a Light and a Princess would leave Good vs. Evil 13 vs. 13, compared to 14 vs. 13, which would be better for Sora and Co. (Then again, 13 is a powerful number in the game).

• They were all together in one of the most beautiful cutscenes in the series- 3D's opening.

Here's where there are gaps.

• Terra is already with Xehanort. But he could always be saved, like Riku in KH1.

• Roxas is currently "nonexistant," but he was said to be one of the ones Sora would save in Re:coded. It was also proved by Ansem the Wise that Roxas had grown his own heart.

• Terra switching over to the Light side would leave Xehanort looking for another vessel. This is solved by him finding another vessel.

• Donald and Goofy appeared in the opening too, but we're all discounting them.

To the Donald and Goofy part, they would just be back-ups or helping out, only a keyblade wielder (preferably a master as said by Yen Sid) can be a guardian of light so I think it doesn't matter that they were in the opening.

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

Gaurdian of light is someone who protects the light (POH)

She can't protect herself as a POH that would be stupid, so someone else will fill that spot. She will be a keyblade wielder even maybe a master but not a guardian when she houses a piece of the remaining light in the world, so someone will protect her regardless if she has a keyblade or not.

And also, Lea was being trained before the end of KH3D. Kairi might not be a "guardian" but she is still a guardian.

If that makes any sense. They will need a back up.

 

 

We can't assume who will be a the 7th.

Roxas and Xion- they may become his own self.

Lea- he is on the fence

Kairi- she is on the fence

Terra

Anything is possible; everything is up in the air.

 

Allowing her to randomly use keyblade in KH2 was stupid actually lol now Nomura has to justify it so he's doing that by making her a Guardian. Just because she's a POH doesn't mean she can't protect herself. Since she can use a keyblade, she isn't ruled out to be a Guardian. Lea already is the 6th so he is not on the. They even counted 6 in the secret video in 3D meaning Lea has been chosen to be a Guardian. I really don't see Terra being a Guardian. It's most likely he'll be rescued towards the end of the game because it would be anticlimactic to do so earlier in the game. I highly doubt Roxas or Xion being Guardians, although I could see Roxas playing a key part of KH3.

[rizar14 8]

The following 7 are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ven, Aqua, Lea, and Kairi. These are the 7 guardians. If you remember the whole conversation with Xehanort and Mickey, Mickey believed they had 6 but Xehanort corrected him stating only 4 since he has possession of Terra's body and would have Sora's as well. As we know Sora got out making 5. So that's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven. Lea showed he could use the keyblade making 6. And with Kairi added to the ranks that's 7. I hope that solves any confusion anyone is having obviously anything can happen from here on out as Nomura is known to play with our heads, but as of now those are the 7 guardians

 

he nevere said anything about tera just the they were. Short meaning the 7th and sora and ven get your stuff straight

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

he nevere said anything about tera just the they were. Short meaning the 7th and sora and ven get your stuff straight

 

First off, Sora isn't the 7th because in that scene Mickey had already counted Sora.Next, Ven is already implied to be on the list thanks to Mickey. And finally, MX didn't say Terra straight up but you know it's him. "But Sora and another on your list belong to me now" were MX's exact words implying it's Terra. We all know Sora was rescued so that leaves Terra in MX's clutches. Lawyered! Make sure you get YOUR stuff straight.

 

 

go to 3:45 and you'll see the list prior to Lea being revealed as a keyblade wielder

[DarknessxLight 0]

I seriously didn't mean to spark such a large debate, but from what I gather, absolutely anything can happen. I guess we'll just have to do what we've been doing for years... wait and see.

[AxelRoxasXionKH 105]

Is he going to be the 7th Keyblade of Light now? Because, it seems like they're setting him up to be, but I don't understand how they can characterize him in the 'Light' category as a former member of Organization XIII. I get that he was never really a 'member' but still.

 

Really? why couldn't axel conquer the light if Riku could? I think it's fair everyone gets a second chance.

Riku did WAY worser things right. I think Axel would make a splendid 7th light. hahaha

however sorry if this was already said,.. I didn't feel anything for reading all the responses.

[kristi-swat 61]

I still wonder what he says in the cutscene that he is in the MT and says something that isn't voiced or subtitled and donald goofy mickey says WHAT? http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smiley-confuse.png

[Azure Flame 670]

I still wonder what he says in the cutscene that he is in the MT and says something that isn't voiced or subtitled and donald goofy mickey says WHAT? http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smiley-confuse.png

 

I belive it's something like "I want a Keyblade"

[rizar14 8]

First off, Sora isn't the 7th because in that scene Mickey had already counted Sora.Next, Ven is already implied to be on the list thanks to Mickey. And finally, MX didn't say Terra straight up but you know it's him. "But Sora and another on your list belong to me now" were MX's exact words implying it's Terra. We all know Sora was rescued so that leaves Terra in MX's clutches. Lawyered! Make sure you get YOUR stuff straight.

 

 

go to 3:45 and you'll see the list prior to Lea being revealed as a keyblade wielder

 

First off, Sora isn't the 7th because in that scene Mickey had already counted Sora.Next, Ven is already implied to be on the list thanks to Mickey. And finally, MX didn't say Terra straight up but you know it's him. "But Sora and another on your list belong to me now" were MX's exact words implying it's Terra. We all know Sora was rescued so that leaves Terra in MX's clutches. Lawyered! Make sure you get YOUR stuff straight.

 

 

go to 3:45 and you'll see the list prior to Lea being revealed as a keyblade wielder

 

he means ven when he says sora and another on list is missing ( ven ) he knows sora carriees is heart within him