KH3D So, about Axel. (MAJOR Spoilers)`

[DarknessxLight 0]

Is he going to be the 7th Keyblade of Light now? Because, it seems like they're setting him up to be, but I don't understand how they can characterize him in the 'Light' category as a former member of Organization XIII. I get that he was never really a 'member' but still.

[kristi-swat 61]

he might be to fulfill Terra's place

[The Protagonist 332]

Is he going to be the 7th Keyblade of Light now? Because, it seems like they're setting him up to be, but I don't understand how they can characterize him in the 'Light' category as a former member of Organization XIII. I get that he was never really a 'member' but still.

 

nah,it gonna be kairi.Lea might just be there to support them

[DarknessxLight 0]

I seriously doubt that it will be Kairi. She used a Keyblade for a half of a second and we already have Aqua who basically was the Kairi of the past.

[VanitasTheBest 196]

I seriously doubt that it will be Kairi. She used a Keyblade for a half of a second and we already have Aqua who basically was the Kairi of the past.

 

Kairi were brought to Yen Sid, a Wise magician and former Keyblademaster ... What do you think is the reason? She'll gonna train ;D

They also gonna get Ven back, who's the Sora of the past, literally ... Without Ventus, Sora wouldn't be the one he is today... Sora complete behaviour is from ventus ~

And there is also Terra, Micky counted him as a Guardian, and he is the Riku of the Past Besides, Riku is a better Riku than Terra o.o

[DarknessxLight 0]

Well, you got me on the Ventus and Terra thing but still, I don't see them making it Kairi. We'll see, I guess.

[Weiss 8,279]

For now all we can do is make theories and guesses based on what we know. I like to think of it this way.

Who wields a keyblade that is a main good guy/girl?

Sora, riku, mickey, kairi, lea, aqua, terra, ventus

Yes I know don't reply about the list of all things, please. It is just an example. Put it this way and you can keep making gueses

But no matter HOW MANY guesses you make the answers still will have to wait until KH3

[DarknessxLight 0]

Haha, true. We've been waiting for answers for a long time now.

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

The following 7 are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ven, Aqua, Lea, and Kairi. These are the 7 guardians. If you remember the whole conversation with Xehanort and Mickey, Mickey believed they had 6 but Xehanort corrected him stating only 4 since he has possession of Terra's body and would have Sora's as well. As we know Sora got out making 5. So that's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven. Lea showed he could use the keyblade making 6. And with Kairi added to the ranks that's 7. I hope that solves any confusion anyone is having obviously anything can happen from here on out as Nomura is known to play with our heads, but as of now those are the 7 guardians

[Rob 5,571]

but I don't understand how they can characterize him in the 'Light' category as a former member of Organization XIII. I get that he was never really a 'member' but still.

 

Then does this mean you don't understand how they characterize Riku in the 'Light' category as a person who once walked the road of darkness?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Axel wont be a light .Lea might be tho Really there are too many possibilities to say for sure right now .

 

Then does this mean you don't understand how they characterize Riku in the 'Light' category as a person who once walked the road of darkness?

 

 

Agreed .Great point .

[Caity 3,946]

I think the normal ending leads you to believe that he'll be the seventh light, but the secret ending indicates Kairi, so it seems unlikely and that it was just to mess with people or get them thinking, conversing and spreading the word of the series and next game.

However MX is still meant to have one of the 6 guardians Mickey mentioned, which I would think it's Terra, but as someone said before elsewhere it could be Aqua cause there's no telling what being in the realm of darkness for 10 years could have done to her, as as MX used the power of darkness, he would be able to walk freely through there (I assume, since Roxas and all could do it), and find her. Given the sigil sign, she herself has an X across her breast, which according to a conversation between Braig and Sora, means that the organisation is able to track them. Ven and Terra also have this symbol as well, but Terra the only one with an unbroken one since his emblems on his belt implying to me that he must be in the dark 13.

 

 

Couldn't figure out how to make the picture smaller. My bad.

 

EDIT: Furthermore, I think if Lea isn't going to be a 7th light (or even if he is) he will play a vital role, such as maybe rescuing Aqua since he said "dark rescue" is his middle name.

Edited August 22, 2012 by Caity Raindrop

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

The following 7 are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ven, Aqua, Lea, and Kairi. These are the 7 guardians. If you remember the whole conversation with Xehanort and Mickey, Mickey believed they had 6 but Xehanort corrected him stating only 4 since he has possession of Terra's body and would have Sora's as well. As we know Sora got out making 5. So that's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven. Lea showed he could use the keyblade making 6. And with Kairi added to the ranks that's 7. I hope that solves any confusion anyone is having obviously anything can happen from here on out as Nomura is known to play with our heads, but as of now those are the 7 guardians

 

This is also my list so i agree...But anything can also happen at this point ...Like if they rescue Terra early enough for example .

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

I think the normal ending leads you to believe that he'll be the seventh light, but the secret ending indicates Kairi, so it seems unlikely and that it was just to mess with people or get them thinking, conversing and spreading the word of the series and next game.

However MX is still meant to have one of the 6 guardians Mickey mentioned, which I would think it's Terra, but as someone said before elsewhere it could be Aqua cause there's no telling what being in the realm of darkness for 10 years could have done to her, as as MX used the power of darkness, he would be able to walk freely through there (I assume, since Roxas and all could do it), and find her. Given the sigil sign, she herself has an X across her breast, which according to a conversation between Braig and Sora, means that the organisation is able to track them. Ven and Terra also have this symbol as well, but Terra the only one with an unbroken one since his emblems on his belt implying to me that he must be in the dark 13.

 

 

Couldn't figure out how to make the picture smaller. My bad.

 

EDIT: Furthermore, I think if Lea isn't going to be a 7th light (or even if he is) he will play a vital role, such as maybe rescuing Aqua since he said "dark rescue" is his middle name.

 

Aqua is still good as seen in the ending to BBS, which takes place around the time 3D starts so she is still considered one of the 7, especially since she actually is a Master and Mickey holds her in high regards. Lea is no doubt one of the 7, Nomura loves him too much as a character As for the Vigil, that may have only applied in the World of Sleep, but I'm not 100% sure. Makes sense because Riku also had the Dream Eater symbol on his back in the World of Sleep. Who knows though. I believe you could be right though about the Vigil since YMX found Aqua, Ven, and Terra in BBS (he's the secret boss for those of you who don't know).

 

This is also my list so i agree...But anything can also happen at this point ...Like if they rescue Terra early enough for example .

 

True enough but I've always had a feeling that Terra will die in the game. Kinda like a Darth Vader death, kill Xehanort at the cost of his own life.

[kristi-swat 61]

The following 7 are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ven, Aqua, Lea, and Kairi. These are the 7 guardians. If you remember the whole conversation with Xehanort and Mickey, Mickey believed they had 6 but Xehanort corrected him stating only 4 since he has possession of Terra's body and would have Sora's as well. As we know Sora got out making 5. So that's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven. Lea showed he could use the keyblade making 6. And with Kairi added to the ranks that's 7. I hope that solves any confusion anyone is having obviously anything can happen from here on out as Nomura is known to play with our heads, but as of now those are the 7 guardians

 

that's what I thought

[HikariYami 354]

Advice to everyone:

What you expect to happen, will not happen.

Kairi is already a light no need to be a double light. That is why she is key to stopping MX plan. He would not expect a POH to have a keyblade

Someone else will fill her spot.

Edited August 22, 2012 by HikariYami

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

Advice to everyone:

What you expect to happen, will not happen.

Kairi is already a light no need to be a double light. That is why she is key to stopping MX plan. He would not expect a POH to have a keyblade

Someone else will fill her spot.

 

If MX wouldn't expect a POH to have a keyblade, then by that admission, wouldn't she be an obvious choice to be used a a Guardian? Even Yen Sid mentioned that he asked her to come BECAUSE she can wield the keyblade...not to mention Mickey was just wondering who the 7th wielder is and in came Kairi. No need to overthink it, it's Kairi

[kristi-swat 61]

I think the normal ending leads you to believe that he'll be the seventh light, but the secret ending indicates Kairi, so it seems unlikely and that it was just to mess with people or get them thinking, conversing and spreading the word of the series and next game.

However MX is still meant to have one of the 6 guardians Mickey mentioned, which I would think it's Terra, but as someone said before elsewhere it could be Aqua cause there's no telling what being in the realm of darkness for 10 years could have done to her, as as MX used the power of darkness, he would be able to walk freely through there (I assume, since Roxas and all could do it), and find her. Given the sigil sign, she herself has an X across her breast, which according to a conversation between Braig and Sora, means that the organisation is able to track them. Ven and Terra also have this symbol as well, but Terra the only one with an unbroken one since his emblems on his belt implying to me that he must be in the dark 13.

 

 

Couldn't figure out how to make the picture smaller. My bad.

 

EDIT: Furthermore, I think if Lea isn't going to be a 7th light (or even if he is) he will play a vital role, such as maybe rescuing Aqua since he said "dark rescue" is his middle name.

 

they already know where Aqua is..in Re:coded secret ending Mickey says that they are very close to locating where Ven's heart is and Yen Sid says that now there's only Terra left...but isn't Ven's heart inside Sora?...shouldn't they be finding his body?..or doesn't anyone know that Ven's heart is inside Sora?

[Azure Flame 670]

The following 7 are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ven, Aqua, Lea, and Kairi. These are the 7 guardians. If you remember the whole conversation with Xehanort and Mickey, Mickey believed they had 6 but Xehanort corrected him stating only 4 since he has possession of Terra's body and would have Sora's as well. As we know Sora got out making 5. So that's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven. Lea showed he could use the keyblade making 6. And with Kairi added to the ranks that's 7. I hope that solves any confusion anyone is having obviously anything can happen from here on out as Nomura is known to play with our heads, but as of now those are the 7 guardians

 

This.

 

Also, stop calling him Axel, he is a Somebody now, so his name is Lea again. As he said in one of the final cutscenes, his name isn't Axel anymore.

[Caity 3,946]

they already know where Aqua is..in Re:coded secret ending Mickey says that they are very close to locating where Ven's heart is and Yen Sid says that now there's only Terra left...but isn't Ven's heart inside Sora?...shouldn't they be finding his body?..or doesn't anyone know that Ven's heart is inside Sora?

 

They may know that Aqua is in the Realm of Darkness but have failed to rescue her yet and she can't get out on her own (where I think Lea steps in with his "dark rescue". Riku now knows having been inside Sora's heart, though he recognized he wasn't Roxas i'm unsure if he knows that he's Ven (I remember him meeting Terra and Aqua in BBS but can't recall if he met Ven)

Aqua needs to be found in order to find Ven, as she's the only one who knows where the room is, Xemnas sent Axel (or some other organization member) to look for the room in CO to find Ven's body, but failed to find it (I'll see if I can find the dialogue of that online, can't remember exactly).

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

They may know that Aqua is in the Realm of Darkness but have failed to rescue her yet and she can't get out on her own (where I think Lea steps in with his "dark rescue". Riku now knows having been inside Sora's heart, though he recognized he wasn't Roxas i'm unsure if he knows that he's Ven (I remember him meeting Terra and Aqua in BBS but can't recall if he met Ven)

Aqua needs to be found in order to find Ven, as she's the only one who knows where the room is, Xemnas sent Axel (or some other organization member) to look for the room in CO to find Ven's body, but failed to find it (I'll see if I can find the dialogue of that online, can't remember exactly).

 

I actually think Ven's heart has already been returned. With his heart being shattered by Xehanort's plan, that may have freed Ven's heart once Sora's was restored by Riku. But this is only a theory of mine

[Caity 3,946]

Aqua is still good as seen in the ending to BBS, which takes place around the time 3D starts so she is still considered one of the 7, especially since she actually is a Master and Mickey holds her in high regards. Lea is no doubt one of the 7, Nomura loves him too much as a character As for the Vigil, that may have only applied in the World of Sleep, but I'm not 100% sure. Makes sense because Riku also had the Dream Eater symbol on his back in the World of Sleep. Who knows though. I believe you could be right though about the Vigil since YMX found Aqua, Ven, and Terra in BBS (he's the secret boss for those of you who don't know).

 

True enough but I've always had a feeling that Terra will die in the game. Kinda like a Darth Vader death, kill Xehanort at the cost of his own life.

 

I think they can still track the sigil's in the real world, cause Braig said something along the lines that it's the reason there's an X placed in the original organizations names, so they could track them. They were unable to predict Lea's interruption near the end cause he no longer has an X in his name (I assume). Given that they are unable to find Ven though (Xemnas had searches pulled out in CO to find the room in which he sleeps, and failed to find it) and that the emblem breaks the Sigil (destroying the tracking ability), means they haven't found Aqua yet (since her emblem does the same). Then again, it could just work in the sleeping worlds, I have to wait to find out I guess.

[kristi-swat 61]

They may know that Aqua is in the Realm of Darkness but have failed to rescue her yet and she can't get out on her own (where I think Lea steps in with his "dark rescue". Riku now knows having been inside Sora's heart, though he recognized he wasn't Roxas i'm unsure if he knows that he's Ven (I remember him meeting Terra and Aqua in BBS but can't recall if he met Ven)

Aqua needs to be found in order to find Ven, as she's the only one who knows where the room is, Xemnas sent Axel (or some other organization member) to look for the room in CO to find Ven's body, but failed to find it (I'll see if I can find the dialogue of that online, can't remember exactly).

 

no Ven never met Sora or Riku in person...in DI he confronted Vanitas...only Aqua and Terra met them and still Sora and Riku don't remember them...even though at 3D he mentions something about it I think of what I've seen in the cutscenes but can't remember if it was when he met Ansem the Wise

[Caity 3,946]

I actually think Ven's heart has already been returned. With his heart being shattered by Xehanort's plan, that may have freed Ven's heart once Sora's was restored by Riku. But this is only a theory of mine

 

My theory's that Lea will rescue Aqua, she will find Ven's body with Sora and co' and once Sora is near it, his heart will return to him. The organization would probably be right behind them following and there may be a battle in the room (though at this point it's really just theories o.o the most random unexpected events could happen with Nomura)

[Samuel Hernandez 24]

I think they can still track the sigil's in the real world, cause Braig said something along the lines that it's the reason there's an X placed in the original organizations names, so they could track them. They were unable to predict Lea's interruption near the end cause he no longer has an X in his name (I assume). Given that they are unable to find Ven though (Xemnas had searches pulled out in CO to find the room in which he sleeps, and failed to find it) and that the emblem breaks the Sigil (destroying the tracking ability), means they haven't found Aqua yet (since her emblem does the same). Then again, it could just work in the sleeping worlds, I have to wait to find out I guess.

 

I think they know Aqua is there but would rather keep her there, after all what bad guy wants another Keyblade Master ruining their plans. Ven may not be able to be tracked due to the fact that the room is a Keyblade Master secret that Xehanort himself knew not the way in or that it even existed. So there's no way Ven could be found. And remember Xemnas was talking to Aqua's armor, he must know of her whereabouts. Lea did not lose the X until his death as Axel so he was still being tracked for the longest time. Again, just all theories here