KHBbS Lea and Isa? What were they doing?

[AxelRoxasXionKH 105]

KH BBS shows a cutscene with Isa asking Lea "are you ready?"

Lea responds "yeah" as he looks up to the castle,.

 

what where they ready for? obviously they where on the wrong time at the wrong place because they became nobodies too.

And did Xehanort know they where coming, cause especially Isa became an important person in the organization.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Well in the credits it shows them getting kicked out of the castle after trying to sneak in . They probably ended up trying again in the future and were caught and forced into the experiments after the apprentices already became nobodies .Since they already knew they would need the cloaks they put them on them beforehand .Which is why Lea awakens revived with the cloak on .

[Remains of Old 117]

Well in the credits it shows them getting kicked out of the castle after trying to sneak in . They probably ended up trying again in the future and were caught and forced into the experiments after the apprentices already became nobodies .Since they already knew they would need the cloaks they put them on them beforehand .Which is why Lea awakens revived with the cloak on .

 

If this is a theory, i love this theory. If this was confirmed, i love KH even more.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

If this is a theory, i love this theory. If this was confirmed, i love KH even more.

 

It's a theory based on facts

[Queen Tery 4,591]

All I read was the title and I already know the answer. Butt sex.

[Pyrrha Nikos 1,162]

lol, I always assume that they were going to try out as one of those protecters of the city like Dilan and Aeleaus, but they probably did something stupid that got them kicked out. That used to be my theory

[Col.Random 3,683]

Well in the credits it shows them getting kicked out of the castle after trying to sneak in . They probably ended up trying again in the future and were caught and forced into the experiments after the apprentices already became nobodies .Since they already knew they would need the cloaks they put them on them beforehand .Which is why Lea awakens revived with the cloak on .

 

I like your theory, but it seems to contradict with the theory of their scars. Y'know? How everyone says Isa probably betrayed him which led to the cross on his face and the tear marks under Lea's eyes.

Maybe it was that Lea tried to stop Isa from joining Xehanort's plans, but they got into a fight and as a last attempt to stop him Lea tried to infiltrate the castle, but failed and ended up being turned into a nobody. What do you think?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I like your theory, but it seems to contradict with the theory of their scars. Y'know? How everyone says Isa probably betrayed him which led to the cross on his face and the tear marks under Lea's eyes.

Maybe it was that Lea tried to stop Isa from joining Xehanort's plans, but they got into a fight and as a last attempt to stop him Lea tried to infiltrate the castle, but failed and ended up being turned into a nobody. What do you think?

 

 

Nomura said that nobodies had small differences which could explain the teardrops on Axel. Lea also pointed out he knew he was human when he saw his marks gone Saix's X is a recusant sigil which probably was given to him by AX. They prolly all have a sigil somewhere bc it was said it can be in obscure places too. This doesnt contradict anything since we originally were never given the reason for Saix's X till now in DDD.. They both were in cahoots to take over the Organization bc they didnt believe that they were really gonna get their hearts back . I dont think Isa joined willingly .Xemnas even confirmed he lied to everyone but Xigbar who was always in the know . ..Considering that up until their friendship was broken they were planning to rebel there is no indication Isa was also in the know

 

Edited August 20, 2012 by Flaming Lea

[AxelRoxasXionKH 105]

 

Nomura said that nobodies had small differences which could explain the teardrops on Axel. Lea also pointed out he knew he was human when he saw his marks gone Saix's X is a recusant sigil which probably was given to him by AX. They prolly all have a sigil somewhere bc it was said it can be in obscure places too. This doesnt contradict anything since we originally were never given the reason for Saix's X till now in DDD.. They both were in cahoots to take over the Organization bc they didnt believe that they were really gonna get their hearts back . I dont think Isa joined willingly .Xemnas even confirmed he lied to everyone but Xigbar who was always in the know . ..Considering that up until their friendship was broken they were planning to rebel there is no indication Isa was also in the know

 

 

But even though Isa didn't know.. he was a darkness, and that without completing Kingdom Hearts.. now ofcourse I wonder did Xigbar where that eye covering (lost the word) to cover his other collored eye? this is what I suspected after he said "I'm already half Xehanort". But on the other hand... he also got a lot of bruises fighting Terra and Xehanort (sorry I can't recall who caused the scars, Xehanort or Terra). However Isa was a Darkness does that make him a Xehanort and like I asked,, did that make him aware?

[Zenithia 305]

tutti frutti. Breaking and entering.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

But even though Isa didn't know.. he was a darkness, and that without completing Kingdom Hearts.. now ofcourse I wonder did Xigbar where that eye covering (lost the word) to cover his other collored eye? this is what I suspected after he said "I'm already half Xehanort". But on the other hand... he also got a lot of bruises fighting Terra and Xehanort (sorry I can't recall who caused the scars, Xehanort or Terra). However Isa was a Darkness does that make him a Xehanort and like I asked,, did that make him aware?

 

 

Xigbar/Braig lost his eye in his fight with Terra which is why he also has that scar. Terra did it .Xemnas said his plan was to make all the organization his vessels and lied to all of them about it . None of them knew , except Xigbar who was in on it since BBS.. Saix and Axel were planning on overthrowing the organization bc they thought Xemnas was hiding something ( we now know what ) and didnt believe they would actually get their hearts back . This plan of theirs was going on till their friendship broke and Axel went rogue . Saix wasnt in the know about Xemnas' REAL intentions . He never even knew that they were supposed to all be vessels.But he didnt trust Xemnas . He is a Nort and I dont know how aware he is since Nomura stated that a vessel is slowly consumed and taken over by MXs heart and is controlled.

 

Edited August 20, 2012 by Flaming Lea

[AxelRoxasXionKH 105]

 

Xigbar/Braig lost his eye in his fight with Terra which is why he also has that scar. Terra did it .Xemnas said his plan was to make all the organization his vessels and lied to all of them about it . None of them knew , except Xigbar who was in on it since BBS.. Saix and Axel were planning on overthrowing the organization bc they thought Xemnas was hiding something ( we now know what ) and didnt believe they would actually get their hearts back . This plan of theirs was going on till their friendship broke and Axel went rogue . Saix wasnt in the know about Xemnas' REAL intentions . He never even knew that they were supposed to all be vessels.But he didnt trust Xemnas . He is a Nort and I dont know how aware he is since Nomura stated that a vessel is slowly consumed and taken over by MXs heart and is controlled.

 

 

Wow,.. okay thanks,.. yeah that explains how Saix was controlled.,. however I wonder who the others are, some said Vanitus,.. and I think that is considerable.

Edited August 20, 2012 by AxelRoxasXionKH

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I like your theory, but it seems to contradict with the theory of their scars. Y'know? How everyone says Isa probably betrayed him which led to the cross on his face and the tear marks under Lea's eyes.

Maybe it was that Lea tried to stop Isa from joining Xehanort's plans, but they got into a fight and as a last attempt to stop him Lea tried to infiltrate the castle, but failed and ended up being turned into a nobody. What do you think?

 

Umm I've never heard of this theory before also none of them were aware of Xemnas's plans with the exception of Xigbar and Xemnas.

[Col.Random 3,683]

 

Xigbar/Braig lost his eye in his fight with Terra which is why he also has that scar. Terra did it .Xemnas said his plan was to make all the organization his vessels and lied to all of them about it . None of them knew , except Xigbar who was in on it since BBS.. Saix and Axel were planning on overthrowing the organization bc they thought Xemnas was hiding something ( we now know what ) and didnt believe they would actually get their hearts back . This plan of theirs was going on till their friendship broke and Axel went rogue . Saix wasnt in the know about Xemnas' REAL intentions . He never even knew that they were supposed to all be vessels.But he didnt trust Xemnas . He is a Nort and I dont know how aware he is since Nomura stated that a vessel is slowly consumed and taken over by MXs heart and is controlled.

 

 

are you a kingdom hearts scholar? =p

[Pyrrha Nikos 1,162]

Flaming Lea knows what she's saying

[Ultima Spark 753]

Well in the credits it shows them getting kicked out of the castle after trying to sneak in . They probably ended up trying again in the future and were caught and forced into the experiments after the apprentices already became nobodies .Since they already knew they would need the cloaks they put them on them beforehand .Which is why Lea awakens revived with the cloak on .

 

Do note that Lea shows familiarity with the apprentices in the revival scene (calling out to them with their true names - and this before he consciously realises they're human again!), so I think their relationship goes beyond the "captured and used as human guinea pigs" thing mentioned in KH1. What the specifics were, I don't know, and I'm starting to get rather curious.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Do note that Lea shows familiarity with the apprentices in the revival scene (calling out to them with their true names - and this before he consciously realises they're human again!), so I think their relationship goes beyond the "captured and used as human guinea pigs" thing mentioned in KH1. What the specifics were, I don't know, and I'm starting to get rather curious.

 

To be honest I'm not sure what you are trying to say . They spent the past decade plus with each other and they all know their names are just their human name plus an X added.They worked together all that time . It wouldnt be odd for them to know each others real names..So yeah he should be familiar . They dont lose their memories from being a nobody .They remember . Lea straight up pointed at his missing tear drops and exclaimed he was human again bc they were gone.So he didnt even know for sure what happened to him till he saw his reflection .Lea and Isa joined after the apprentices which means they werent made into nobodies until after the apprentices were.. They also had their own separate goals that didnt include anyone else but themselves..When we saw them in BBS they didnt show any inclination of knowing them especially since they got kicked out by Dilan and aleaus..

Edited August 21, 2012 by Flaming Lea

[Queen Tery 4,591]

I like your theory, but it seems to contradict with the theory of their scars. Y'know? How everyone says Isa probably betrayed him which led to the cross on his face and the tear marks under Lea's eyes.

Maybe it was that Lea tried to stop Isa from joining Xehanort's plans, but they got into a fight and as a last attempt to stop him Lea tried to infiltrate the castle, but failed and ended up being turned into a nobody. What do you think?

 

 

Nomura said that nobodies had small differences which could explain the teardrops on Axel. Lea also pointed out he knew he was human when he saw his marks gone Saix's X is a recusant sigil which probably was given to him by AX. They prolly all have a sigil somewhere bc it was said it can be in obscure places too. This doesnt contradict anything since we originally were never given the reason for Saix's X till now in DDD.. They both were in cahoots to take over the Organization bc they didnt believe that they were really gonna get their hearts back . I dont think Isa joined willingly .Xemnas even confirmed he lied to everyone but Xigbar who was always in the know . ..Considering that up until their friendship was broken they were planning to rebel there is no indication Isa was also in the know

 

 

There's no use arguing with her about Lea/Axel information. She knows what she's talking about. lol

Edited August 21, 2012 by Ertyx

[Caity 3,946]

It'll probably be revealed in a future game, what they were trying to do in the castle and how they became nobodies (and Saix got that X(Sigil) on his face). I agree with flaming lea on how they became nobodies, seems like a very sound theory.

 

I like your theory, but it seems to contradict with the theory of their scars. Y'know? How everyone says Isa probably betrayed him which led to the cross on his face and the tear marks under Lea's eyes.

Maybe it was that Lea tried to stop Isa from joining Xehanort's plans, but they got into a fight and as a last attempt to stop him Lea tried to infiltrate the castle, but failed and ended up being turned into a nobody. What do you think?

 

But it's noted in one of the games (i fail to remember right now) that while in the organization, Saix and Axel still had plans together and it wasn't until the revelation near the end of 3D that he saw they were on opposite sides (as he'd still been trying to find him before). Isa may have gone ahead and willingly embraced the organization (or got in a battle while in the castle leading to the mark on his face) and Lea may have been mourning over the lost of his friend (the tear drops) before becoming one himself. Or maybe the tear drops are because he wanted to be remembered in the memories of everyone else when he dies, and he never got the chance to get to know everyone when he became a nobody.

[KingdomKarts_:P 14]

Its kinda obvious that they were forced to become nobodies,since org XII was villainious and almost all their somebodies were not. I think xehanort tried to xehanortify everyone, but failed and decided to make them nobodies. Pretty much that was the thing that affected them and made them villains. After all demyx and xaldin were not traitors but tried to kill sora despite their plans for no reason, due to their messed up personality ( all of them,they were 10% xehanorts i believe that.. why?). Well, some details: remember how marluxia threatened vexen with his wpn? Thats what xehanort did to braig in bbs. Also xaldin tried to manipulate the beast, just like xehanort did to terra. Coincidence?

[The blue wayfinder 0]

I think they were trying to be part of the castel guards or something like that...

[Nafees Rahman 35]

Well in the credits it shows them getting kicked out of the castle after trying to sneak in . They probably ended up trying again in the future and were caught and forced into the experiments after the apprentices already became nobodies .Since they already knew they would need the cloaks they put them on them beforehand .Which is why Lea awakens revived with the cloak on .

 

That was pretty dark in itself as a idea but it DID happen...

[Mystics Apprentice 2,397]

I'm guessing they were getting ready to break into Ansem's castle, haha!

[Weiss 8,279]

They were probably going into the castle thing and I'm guessing that's how they died.

[HelpMeRan-Sama 141]

They probably a wanted to steal something, got caught and got kicked out haha xDSecond attempt they got caught in the experiment and whoops they became nobodies. And saix probably got the X scar durimg the experiment which so conviniently becomes a sigil