tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 It's about Sora with all Dream Eaters cutscene.. is he going back to realm of sleep? if that so..why he's in real time form (older version)? or is he going to the real time Traverse town? and why there's Dream Eaters there? sorry for my bad english Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted August 10, 2012 I also find that odd. In the Dream world he wore different red clothes. It's also the only place Dreameaters exist. But he has his KH2 clothes on, so the only thing I can think of is he's in the dream Traverse Town retaking his MoM test (he failed it). But I just don't know why his clothes aren't red...idk, we'll find out in KH3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted August 10, 2012 It's about Sora with all Dream Eaters cutscene.. is he going back to realm of sleep? if that so..why he's in real time form (older version)? or is he going to the real time Traverse town? and why there's Dream Eaters there? sorry for my bad english See this is hard to know too because, at this point Riku has awoken the worlds from sleep. So how is he back in Traverse Town in the world of Sleep with a dream eaters? To explaine the clothes, maybe they were wrong and it wasnt Yen Sids magic that made the clothes but Xehanort who did it? I dont know kind of confusing when these little details come up Maybe there were no magic clothes there cause Sora sent himself there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloud the Keyblade Master 44 Posted August 10, 2012 It might be because in the game, the had to become younger to when they 1st got the keyblade. Since Yen Sid said: "You must forget everything you know about the keyblade". So now that Sora failed, he is able to wear his normal clothes? IDK 2 Skai and HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 Nomura states hes in the dream realm saying thanks to the dream eaters . He wanted to illustrate Sora had the power to open the doors to sleep. Yen Sid only gave them different clothes and made them younger so they could learn from scratch as their younger selves. ( Later MX has other alterations to the clothes done ) Obviously thats not neccessary now . 2 Kishira and Skai reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 oh..all I know is..he need to become younger if they want to enter the realm of sleep..and the clothes is from Xehanort ..(because of the X thingy) and also I'm quite confused at TWTNW because we play with the younger sora but the cutscenes shows that Sora's in his older form Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted August 10, 2012 It woulda been nice if Riku had done the same with Komori Bat at least....they were fellow Dream Eaters and all. >w< 4 Wuver, Xail, Skai and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 Yen Sid gave them clothes but Xehanort altered them with the X and Rikus was altered showing the dream eater symbol. So in a sense its bc of both of them.. As for TWTNW the reason why its confusing is bc Sora is getting pulled deeper and deeper into sleep and Rikus trying to wake him up . Also remember TWTNW is a world in the in between that exists both in and out of the world of sleep. 1 Kishira reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) oh..all I know is..he need to become younger if they want to enter the realm of sleep..and the clothes is from Xehanort ..(because of the X thingy) and also I'm quite confused at TWTNW because we play with the younger sora but the cutscenes shows that Sora's in his older form Sora and Riku, up until the beginning of KH3D had been learning how to wield the Keyblade wrong. So in order for them to unlearn all they learned, Yen Sid needed to bring them back to the past before Destiny Islands fell into darkness. (Yes, they time traveled.) After entering the Realm of Sleep, they were bestowed upon new clothes by none other then Yen Sid himself. On top of that Riku became a Spirit Dream Eater to eliminate the nightmares in Sora's Dreams, unknowingly. Sora received an X Sigil as a mark that the Organization could follow. After the test was finished, they learned how to wield the keyblade and Riku even became a master. Now that Sora learned how to wield it correctly, he did not need to go back in time to learn again. Therefore when he entered the Realm of Sleep he was his normal, 15 year old self. The World that Never Was is in what they refer to as the Realm Between. The Realm Between is basically a realm between the Realm of Light and the Realm of Darkness and now the Realm of Sleep. Think of it as the middle ground where every realm overlaps. Sora entered the The World that Never Was as his young self, because Yen Sid's magic had not yet worn off. For it to wore off, they must return to the Mysterious Tower first. Yen Sid never stated that you have to be younger to enter the Realm of Sleep, I have no idea where you got that from. Edited August 10, 2012 by Sky Heart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bink553 0 Posted August 10, 2012 Nomura states hes in the dream realm saying thanks to the dream eaters . He wanted to illustrate Sora had the power to open the doors to sleep. Yen Sid only gave them different clothes and made them younger so they could learn from scratch as their younger selves. ( Later MX has other alterations to the clothes done ) Obviously thats not neccessary now . Where exactly did he state this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 Where exactly did he state this? May 10 Famitsu interview . Read it in the interview archives section Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted August 10, 2012 The clothes Sora and Riku recived in KH3D had nothing to do with the dream worlds. They were changed into those forms. When Riku fought Anti Black Coat, he was in a dream version of The World That Never Was. When he fought Young Xehanort and Master Xehanort appeared, he was in the real one. 1 Kishira reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 Yen Sid never stated that you have to be younger to enter the Realm of Sleep, I have no idea where you got that from. I assumed that because I thought that both Sora and Riku need to go back to the past..to enter the realm of sleep..thanks for correcting my mistakes Yen Sid gave them clothes but Xehanort altered them with the X and Rikus was altered showing the dream eater symbol. So in a sense its bc of both of them.. As for TWTNW the reason why its confusing is bc Sora is getting pulled deeper and deeper into sleep and Rikus trying to wake him up . Also remember TWTNW is a world in the in between that exists both in and out of the world of sleep. can you explain further about TWTNW, if you don't mind.. because it's been long time i didn't play kh2 .. Nomura states hes in the dream realm saying thanks to the dream eaters . He wanted to illustrate Sora had the power to open the doors to sleep. Yen Sid only gave them different clothes and made them younger so they could learn from scratch as their younger selves. ( Later MX has other alterations to the clothes done ) Obviously thats not neccessary now . thanks for the info Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 I assumed that because I thought that both Sora and Riku need to go back to the past..to enter the realm of sleep..thanks for correcting my mistakes can you explain further about TWTNW, if you don't mind.. because it's been long time i didn't play kh2 .. thanks for the info In TWTNW , its a world thats in the 'in between' . It exists in between several realms. When you see Sora and Riku there , they are in sleep in some scenes and awake in others. Sora was getting pulled deeper and deeper till he couldnt wake up . Riku followed him there bc hes in his dreams and then tried to wake him up but couldnt . So there are scenes in both sleep and not sleep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 In TWTNW , its a world thats in the 'in between' . It exists in between several realms. When you see Sora and Riku there , they are in sleep in some scenes and awake in others. Sora was getting pulled deeper and deeper till he couldnt wake up . Riku followed him there bc hes in his dreams and then tried to wake him up but couldnt . So there are scenes in both sleep and not sleep. can I say that..some of the scene is Sora's dreams? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 can I say that..some of the scene is Sora's dreams? yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 yes oh..okay thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 oh..okay thanks You are welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 Is it the Dream worlds that sora and riku enter before the ending is the same with the world (traverse town) after the ending? or the worlds before the ending is in the past / dream while the world after the ending (traverse town) is in present / real time? The clothes Sora and Riku recived in KH3D had nothing to do with the dream worlds. They were changed into those forms. When Riku fought Anti Black Coat, he was in a dream version of The World That Never Was. When he fought Young Xehanort and Master Xehanort appeared, he was in the real one. so Riku fought YMX in real time? but why is he still in younger form? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 Is it the Dream worlds that sora and riku enter before the ending is the same with the world (traverse town) after the ending? or the worlds before the ending is in the past / dream while the world after the ending (traverse town) is in present / real time? so Riku fought YMX in real time? but why is he still in younger form? When Sora arrives hes awake then falls into sleep. When Riku arrives hes asleep but then is awake later . The magic Yen Sid put on their clothes doesnt wear off till they return to the mysterious tower. Riku fought YMX awake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 When Sora arrives hes awake then falls into sleep. When Riku arrives hes asleep but then is awake later . The magic Yen Sid put on their clothes doesnt wear off till they return to the mysterious tower. Riku fought YMX awake. okay so Riku fought YMX in real time but he still in his younger form because of Yen Sid's magic? and one thing..back to the main topic..the Traverse Town that Sora visit after the ending cutscenes is the real time? or TT in realm of dream? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 10, 2012 okay so Riku fought YMX in real time but he still in his younger form because of Yen Sid's magic? and one thing..back to the main topic..the Traverse Town that Sora visit after the ending cutscenes is the real time? or TT in realm of dream? Realm of sleep. He went back to thank all his friends the dream eaters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted August 10, 2012 so Riku fought YMX in real time? but why is he still in younger form? Yen Sid's magic changed them into looking like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted August 10, 2012 Yen Sid's magic changed them into looking like that. ok thanks Realm of sleep. He went back to thank all his friends the dream eaters yup..Realm of Sleep..sorry bout that..thanks again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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