KH3D KH 3D -- Seventh World Missing?! / Possible Improvement (SPOILERS)

[SoraDaxjer28 263]

The only place I noticed for improvement throughout the ENTIRE game of Kingdom Hearts Dream, Drop, Distance was that the Disney movie, Tinker Bell, could've fit in along the same lines as the worlds currently in the story. After all, most of the game's worlds' storylines take place in the past. It wouldn't have surprised me if Pixie Hollow could've been added as a Sleeping World since Sora would've had the same reaction with Tinker Bell not remembering him (like Tron, Jiminy Cricket, Mickey, Donald, and Goofy). What DID surprise me was the number of worlds that were actually freed by Sora and Riku.

For that matter, if you calculate the number of worlds actually explored, there are only six worlds locked in sleep -- Destiny Islands was NEVER ASLEEP!! The World That Never Was wasn't even in the "Realm of Sleep" (my name for the realm that Sora and Riku are exploring), so neither one should count.

In fact, the keyhole that Sora and Riku unlocked after getting sucked underwater wasn't even a SLEEPING KEYHOLE!! Master Yen Sid sent Sora and Riku back in time to find the keyhole that leads into the "Realm of Sleep". Because Xehanort's Heartless [Ansem] was there at that point in history (the night the islands were lost to the Darkness), Young Master Xehanort was able to enter with his help. Therefore, Destiny Islands is only from the past. There were only SIX Sleeping Worlds freed: Traverse Town, La Cite Des Cloches, The Grid, Prankster's Paradise, Country of the Musketeers, and Symphony of Sorcery. When they arrived at The World That Never Was, Sora and Riku both claimed that they had freed SEVEN worlds from eternal slumber, which leaves The World That Never Was out, too. What was the seventh one?! Was it never revealed at all?!

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

Destiny Island did count. Yen Sid said he was sending them back to destiny islands at the time right before the storm that plunged it into sleep. It doesn't make much sense to me either but I wouldn't worry about it. Otherwise how could sora and riku have their KH1 clothes on.Hmmm? It was a dream.

[keystrike 145]

Destiny Island did count. Yen Sid said he was sending them back to destiny islands at the time right before the storm that plunged it into sleep. It doesn't make much sense to me either but I wouldn't worry about it. Otherwise how could sora and riku have their KH1 clothes on.Hmmm? It was a dream.

 

The clothes weren't an effect of the sleeping worlds, but rather Xehanort and Yen Sid to an extent. Destiny Islands fell into darkness, but never sleep. Sleep was the state the worlds entered after the worlds were restored, but Destiny Islands obviously was restored at the end of kh1. The argument could be made that the world slept in darkness and there is some degree of evidence for it (see end of Riku's story in Monstro).

 

Concerning Pixie Hollow being a sleeping world, it is actually a part of Neverland which never even fell to the darkness, so it would have been impossible for it to be sleeping and thus a world in KH3D.

[SoraDaxjer28 263]

The clothes weren't an effect of the sleeping worlds, but rather Xehanort and Yen Sid to an extent. Destiny Islands fell into darkness, but never sleep. Sleep was the state the worlds entered after the worlds were restored, but Destiny Islands obviously was restored at the end of kh1. The argument could be made that the world slept in darkness and there is some degree of evidence for it (see end of Riku's story in Monstro).

 

Concerning Pixie Hollow being a sleeping world, it is actually a part of Neverland which never even fell to the darkness, so it would have been impossible for it to be sleeping and thus a world in KH3D.

 

If only worlds that were lost to the Darkness appeared in KH3D, then why is Traverse Town & Symphony of Sorcery in there? Traverse Town NEVER was lost in the first place -- Sora sealed its keyhole. The Symphony of Sorcery is magically connected to the Mysterious Tower, so does that mean Yen Sid's Study was lost to the Darkness? Also, Pixie Hollow was never shown in Never Land. It could've been a sleeping state of Never Land like the Symphony of Sorcery. The world of Fantasia is in a sleeping state of the Mysterious Tower. Could you explain all of this to me?

[XIIISwords 1,059]

Concerning Pixie Hollow being a sleeping world, it is actually a part of Neverland which never even fell to the darkness, so it would have been impossible for it to be sleeping and thus a world in KH3D.

 

You could argue the same thing for The Grid. It was part of Radiant Gardens, which was taken over by Heartless, but never fell into darkness.

[Demetri Burke 11]

they unlocked transverse town twice...

[Axtwyt 500]

If only worlds that were lost to the Darkness appeared in KH3D, then why is Traverse Town & Symphony of Sorcery in there? Traverse Town NEVER was lost in the first place -- Sora sealed its keyhole. The Symphony of Sorcery is magically connected to the Mysterious Tower, so does that mean Yen Sid's Study was lost to the Darkness? Also, Pixie Hollow was never shown in Never Land. It could've been a sleeping state of Never Land like the Symphony of Sorcery. The world of Fantasia is in a sleeping state of the Mysterious Tower. Could you explain all of this to me?

 

Traverse Town fell into sleep due to the fact that people were returning to their own worlds. There was no use for it, so it began to drift into sleep. The Symphony of Sorcery is in the past and may not even be the same tower we see Yen Sid in. After all, Donald and Goofy didn't recognize the tower the second time they went there. Yen Sid could have more than one tower.

 

You could argue the same thing for The Grid. It was part of Radiant Gardens, which was taken over by Heartless, but never fell into darkness.

 

Not quite. YMX states that The Grid was the original system that Ansem copied and turned into Space Paranoids. The Grid could have fallen into darkness while Space Paranoids wasn't.

 

On a seperate note, they sealed Traverse Town twice, thus seven Keyholes were sealed.

Edited August 10, 2012 by Johnny Madman

[replika13 455]

well Destiny Islands had one and Traverse Town also had two

[Funny2never 3]

I wonder why they didn't add a final fantasy 10 themed word, it would have fit in with the concept of dreams

[Skai 3,961]

The only place I noticed for improvement throughout the ENTIRE game of Kingdom Hearts Dream, Drop, Distance was that the Disney movie, Tinker Bell, could've fit in along the same lines as the worlds currently in the story. After all, most of the game's worlds' storylines take place in the past. It wouldn't have surprised me if Pixie Hollow could've been added as a Sleeping World since Sora would've had the same reaction with Tinker Bell not remembering him (like Tron, Jiminy Cricket, Mickey, Donald, and Goofy). What DID surprise me was the number of worlds that were actually freed by Sora and Riku.

For that matter, if you calculate the number of worlds actually explored, there are only six worlds locked in sleep -- Destiny Islands was NEVER ASLEEP!! The World That Never Was wasn't even in the "Realm of Sleep" (my name for the realm that Sora and Riku are exploring), so neither one should count.

In fact, the keyhole that Sora and Riku unlocked after getting sucked underwater wasn't even a SLEEPING KEYHOLE!! Master Yen Sid sent Sora and Riku back in time to find the keyhole that leads into the "Realm of Sleep". Because Xehanort's Heartless [Ansem] was there at that point in history (the night the islands were lost to the Darkness), Young Master Xehanort was able to enter with his help. Therefore, Destiny Islands is only from the past. There were only SIX Sleeping Worlds freed: Traverse Town, La Cite Des Cloches, The Grid, Prankster's Paradise, Country of the Musketeers, and Symphony of Sorcery. When they arrived at The World That Never Was, Sora and Riku both claimed that they had freed SEVEN worlds from eternal slumber, which leaves The World That Never Was out, too. What was the seventh one?! Was it never revealed at all?!

 

The task was to seal the Seven Keyholes of Sleep to gain the power to awaken those sleeping in darkness/sadness. There was never any specificity on how many worlds there were. It was plain and simple actually, there were Seven Keyholes of Sleep and 2 happened to be in the same world, Traverse Town. That's all there is to it.

Edited August 10, 2012 by Sky Heart

[keystrike 145]

If only worlds that were lost to the Darkness appeared in KH3D, then why is Traverse Town & Symphony of Sorcery in there? Traverse Town NEVER was lost in the first place -- Sora sealed its keyhole. The Symphony of Sorcery is magically connected to the Mysterious Tower, so does that mean Yen Sid's Study was lost to the Darkness? Also, Pixie Hollow was never shown in Never Land. It could've been a sleeping state of Never Land like the Symphony of Sorcery. The world of Fantasia is in a sleeping state of the Mysterious Tower. Could you explain all of this to me?

 

Both Traverse Town and the Mysterious Tower are worlds that exist in the realm between which go by different rules than those of light. The idea is that Yen Sid separated his tower from the Symphony of Sorcery, but when it became a spleeping world it dreamed up what was missing including Mickey and the Mysterious Tower. As far as Traverse Town goes, it is a world made up of other world's remnants so when the worlds were restored it disappeared. Its fairly hard to find where that fact about Traverse Town is confirmed so the argument could also be made from the fact that it appears only to those in need of shelter and that nobody needed shelter after the worlds were restored. Pixie Hollow is a part of Neverland just like The Mysterious Tower is a part of Symphony of Sorcery. The only way that it could be a sleeping world would have been if it spontaneously broke off only to be swallowed by the darkness, but that just doesn't make probabilistic sense.

 

You could argue the same thing for The Grid. It was part of Radiant Gardens, which was taken over by Heartless, but never fell into darkness.

 

The Grid was the original program that Space Paranoids in Radiant Garden was based off of. So while The Grid fell asleep, Space Paranoids wasn't affected at all.

[Rob 5,571]

It was DI.

[Kirux 1,224]

they unlocked transverse town twice...

 

That is what got me right there at first. I find it a bit of a cop out, and still don't understand why they had to unlock it twice. I really would have liked another world, not sure which one, to be honest.

If we're causing a stink about sleeping worlds that aren't sleeping...I want Monstro explained to me. If I went there in KHI, why is it considered a sleeping world? Is just the Sora side of it sleeping, but monstro escaped to the space between like the mysterious tower and traverse town? Any thoughts?

[atheist123 583]

That is what got me right there at first. I find it a bit of a cop out, and still don't understand why they had to unlock it twice. I really would have liked another world, not sure which one, to be honest.

If we're causing a stink about sleeping worlds that aren't sleeping...I want Monstro explained to me. If I went there in KHI, why is it considered a sleeping world? Is just the Sora side of it sleeping, but monstro escaped to the space between like the mysterious tower and traverse town? Any thoughts?

 

Riku was in Sora's dreams. So the world he explored was based off Sora's memories of Monstro from KHI. Sora was exploring the Carnival etc, that had been swallowed by darkness (Pinocchio said in KHI that his world had been destroyed) but when it was restored it went to sleep instead.

 

Edited August 11, 2012 by atheist123

[Kirux 1,224]

That still doesn't truly explain how Monstro was in KHI to begin with. By all accounts he should be sleeping with the rest of the world. They prolly explained this IN KHI but it's been so long I forgot.

[SnowpointQuincy 11]

Monstro Breaths in Space. He must be a planeswalker because he escaped Prankster's with Pinooc, Cricket, and Jopetto. Remember Monstro in KH1 was just chillin out in the middle of no where.

[Kirux 1,224]

Yeah, so he's a space whale and travels through the 5 dimension...make sense. But if thats when the world went to sleep, when did geppetto find the time to go looking for pinoke. THIS is why I hate monstro. He causes plot gaps.

[SoraDaxjer28 263]

Both Traverse Town and the Mysterious Tower are worlds that exist in the realm between which go by different rules than those of light. The idea is that Yen Sid separated his tower from the Symphony of Sorcery, but when it became a spleeping world it dreamed up what was missing including Mickey and the Mysterious Tower. As far as Traverse Town goes, it is a world made up of other world's remnants so when the worlds were restored it disappeared. Its fairly hard to find where that fact about Traverse Town is confirmed so the argument could also be made from the fact that it appears only to those in need of shelter and that nobody needed shelter after the worlds were restored. Pixie Hollow is a part of Neverland just like The Mysterious Tower is a part of Symphony of Sorcery. The only way that it could be a sleeping world would have been if it spontaneously broke off only to be swallowed by the darkness, but that just doesn't make probabilistic sense.

 

That still doesn't explain why Sora and Roxas don't go to the actual island of Never Land. Ventus, Terra, and Aqua went there in KH BBS, but that was LONG before the worlds were being swallowed by Darkness. Pixie Hollow is located on only one location of the island, which Roxas might've come close to, but doesn't actually see (although Skull Rock is visible). The world could be incomplete with the main island being absent while everything else around it is still there.

 

Another possibility is that the "lost island", which lies to the distant North BEYOND Never Land, could be missing. This could mean that parts of the story of the Disney movie, Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure, could have appeared if that segment was missing. Sora and Riku could have gone to that particular island and still seen a world that is locked in Sleep. Since Pixie Hollow would've been on the main island, the missing segment would have dreamed up the missing sections of the world, like the Symphony of Sorcery dreaming up the Mysterious Tower. Although Master Yen Sid claimed that the worlds that were restored were back in their original states, not every single one restored to its appearance when it was supposed to be back in the Realm of Light. This also is shown with the Symphony of Sorcery which is missing from the Mysterious Tower. Also, why didn't the main island of Never Land appear in the time period after Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days? Claiming a lack of space for the game doesn't explain any other reasons. In fact, if the worlds were all supposed to be restored to their original states, then why didn't Roxas even get close to the island of Never Land? The island itself does appear on the world's logo for Roxas's story, but never is seen in the game. Can someone explain this?