bink553 0 Posted August 7, 2012 Hi everyone. i been looking at all the 3d cut scenes ect. and i was wondering,,,,, since riku passed his mark of mastery and gained the power of sleep aka to dive into someone else's heart and sleep did sora gain that new ability as well? i mean it makes perfect sense to use that technique for sora to revive ventus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted August 7, 2012 Well since Sora failed I would think only RIku has the ability. However, I haven't played the game so I'm not a reliable source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imagination in Progress 30 Posted August 7, 2012 I believe only Riku had gained the ability to dive into another's sleep and wake them. However, I imagine Sora will also be gaining this ability, when the time comes for him to rescue Ven (KH3). 1 Kishira reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anime10121 28 Posted August 7, 2012 Well since Sora failed I would think only RIku has the ability. However, I haven't played the game so I'm not a reliable source Why does everyone keep saying Sora failed, Yensid only said that he named Riku the one TRUE keyblade master and that both of them deserved the title. Sora did still unlock all 7 of the keyholes (which Yensid said at the beginning was his requirement), so technically, Sora should have the power also. 4 Kello, The Kingdom Hearts Otaku, hatok and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted August 7, 2012 Why does everyone keep saying Sora failed, Yensid only said that he named Riku the one TRUE keyblade master and that both of them deserved the title. Sora did still unlock all 7 of the keyholes (which Yensid said at the beginning was his requirement), so technically, Sora should have the power also. Yeah but Sora fell into the darkness which is why he didn't pass. Why would Yen sid not say Sora was a master? Anyways Sora goes off to SPOILER retake his test in the secret ending of DDD, or atleast it's what is most likely happening considering he's in the dreamworld again (IE the dreameaters) or maybe he just wnats to fluff'em up a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NumberXIII.Roxas 64 Posted August 7, 2012 I believe only Riku has the power since he spent the entire game in Sora's dreams, whereas Sora was just snoozing the entire time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axtwyt 500 Posted August 7, 2012 Both have the ability, as demonstrated by the ending, when Sora dives back to the Dream world. But only Riku passed because Sora needed help getting out of the Realm of Sleep. 4 Henne, DG20, Roxas Illini and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted August 7, 2012 Hi everyone. i been looking at all the 3d cut scenes ect. and i was wondering,,,,, since riku passed his mark of mastery and gained the power of sleep aka to dive into someone else's heart and sleep did sora gain that new ability as well? i mean it makes perfect sense to use that technique for sora to revive ventus. No thats the reason Sora failed. He didn't gain the power... he slept through the entire exam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted August 7, 2012 Riku has the power, but since Sora also unlocked the 7 sleeping worlds, Sora can go back to the sleeping worlds(as shown in the ending) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) Technically, Riku only has the power over Sora's heart, since he unlocked them in Sora's dreams as a Dream Eater. Also, I believe that when Riku unlocked Sora's heart and brought him back from sleep, he also unlocked Ven's heart and woke him up. If you look closely at the end of the game, they show a sleeping Ven smiling. It would make sense since their hearts are connected. Edited August 7, 2012 by Azure Flame Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keystrike 145 Posted August 7, 2012 If Riku was in Sora's dream the whole time, wasn't Sora the only one actually unlocking the keyholes of sleep? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted August 7, 2012 Actually, the only Keyhole of sleep they really unlocked was the one in DI. Because after that moment, YX and the new organization took control and directed them deeper into sleep until they reached their homeworld, TWTNW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted August 7, 2012 I don't think so. Master Yen Sid said that it wasn't the same ailment as ventus's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted August 7, 2012 I don't think so. Master Yen Sid said that it wasn't the same ailment as ventus's When did he say that? Also, it's only a theory I have due to the scenes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted August 7, 2012 When did he say that? Also, it's only a theory I have due to the scenes. When everybody was back at the tower and mickey looked at sora and said to himself "don't tell me your heart is sleeping too" To which Yen Sid replied "no mickey, this ailment is not the same" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted August 7, 2012 When everybody was back at the tower and mickey looked at sora and said to himself "don't tell me your heart is sleeping too" To which Yen Sid replied "no mickey, this ailment is not the same" But they didn't say he was talking about Ven. Also, Ven is only sleeping because his heart is in Sora, so it wouldn't be the same unless Riku woke Ven's heart in Sora and then it went back to Ven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyslicer 1 Posted August 7, 2012 Of course Sora didn't pass due to him not being careful and protecting himself from his own darkness, unlike Riku of course. Ven gave him his keyblade armour for protection but... that didn't really work out. Ven is starting to reawaken and Sora does have the power of sleep (diving or drop) shown by when he went back to the realm of sleep. I guess it would be too early for Sora to be a Keyblade Master anyway, since that can wait for KH3. Sora of course is careless and his new rage and hatred (gained from Roxas) probably made it much worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted August 7, 2012 But they didn't say he was talking about Ven. Also, Ven is only sleeping because his heart is in Sora, so it wouldn't be the same unless Riku woke Ven's heart in Sora and then it went back to Ven. Really though who else could they possibly be talking about? Ven was sleeping in that exact same place ten years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bink553 0 Posted August 7, 2012 Of course Sora didn't pass due to him not being careful and protecting himself from his own darkness, unlike Riku of course. Ven gave him his keyblade armour for protection but... that didn't really work out. Ven is starting to reawaken and Sora does have the power of sleep (diving or drop) shown by when he went back to the realm of sleep. I guess it would be too early for Sora to be a Keyblade Master anyway, since that can wait for KH3. Sora of course is careless and his new rage and hatred (gained from Roxas) probably made it much worse. Sora will become a keyblade master perhaps in 3 and it's up to him to wake up ventus not riku because Ventus personally "ENTRUSTED" his heart to sora. Everybody Believed in sora and he finally faced sorrow and sadness in this game..so he will certainly mature and earn the title of keyblade master. BTW i think sora is in the real traverse town he not in his test clothes. Both have the ability, as demonstrated by the ending, when Sora dives back to the Dream world. But only Riku passed because Sora needed help getting out of the Realm of Sleep. True btw people Sora has ability's riku does not which is what Ansem The Wise was referring to. Such as bringing a empty puppet back and giving her a heart xion? He says sora has the ability to bring anything he thinks to life or back into existence or somewhere along those lines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted August 8, 2012 Sora will become a keyblade master perhaps in 3 and it's up to him to wake up ventus not riku because Ventus personally "ENTRUSTED" his heart to sora. Everybody Believed in sora and he finally faced sorrow and sadness in this game..so he will certainly mature and earn the title of keyblade master. BTW i think sora is in the real traverse town he not in his test clothes. Those weren't his test clothes, they were the clothes he got from the Organization so they could track him. His test clothes were going to be his KH1 clothes until Xehanort took over. Also, Yen Sid used his powers to send them back in time while they were in the Realm of Sleep, which is why they started in DI and played as their younger selves. But since Sora went back to the RoS on his own, he didn't change back into his younger self. The Dream Eaters only exist in the RoS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bink553 0 Posted August 8, 2012 Those weren't his test clothes, they were the clothes he got from the Organization so they could track him. His test clothes were going to be his KH1 clothes until Xehanort took over. Also, Yen Sid used his powers to send them back in time while they were in the Realm of Sleep, which is why they started in DI and played as their younger selves. But since Sora went back to the RoS on his own, he didn't change back into his younger self. The Dream Eaters only exist in the RoS. seems logical but what do you think about the powers ansem the wise was telling riku about? I think sora has a new type of power coming or already has it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraxKairi7 7 Posted August 9, 2012 Lol, give Sora some slack. He is the main character after all. Riku is a little older and more mature; he made it out of the darkness and became a better person. Sora still has some learning to do. They wouldn't just make Sora the Keyblade Master right away like that. Sora's real test will be reawakening the hearts and defeating Xehanort, retrieving the X-blade and then I think they will deem him as a Keyblade Master. Sora has pretty much been going through the little darkness phases in the past few games; KH1 was a bit innocent, Riku falls into darkness, etc. Now it's Sora's turn to learn how to conquer the darkness. Even though he knows he can do it in those tight situations, he still fell victim to the Realm of Sleep. He always needs other's help. He's gonna learn how to stand on his own two feet. =) Don't get me wrong, Sora is strong - he has to be, but he needs a little more independence like Riku before he can be deemed a Keyblade master. Sora is strong through the connections he has with others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Final Arcana 11 Posted August 9, 2012 Riku has the power, but since Sora also unlocked the 7 sleeping worlds, Sora can go back to the sleeping worlds(as shown in the ending) What are you talking about ''as shown in the ending''? Sora's wearing his KH2 outfit when he ''needs to take care of something'' and goes to Traverse Town. Which means he's in the real world and the Dream Eaters gained access to the Realm of Light. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 9, 2012 ^ People can't accept that though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 9, 2012 What are you talking about ''as shown in the ending''? Sora's wearing his KH2 outfit when he ''needs to take care of something'' and goes to Traverse Town. Which means he's in the real world and the Dream Eaters gained access to the Realm of Light. Wrong ..May 10 Famitsu interview..READ IT . LOL! Its in the dream realm as confirmed by Nomura himself . He wanted to show that Sora had also obtained the power to open the doors to sleep ^ People can't accept that though. Nope you are just wrong.. Read above ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
