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[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

He's still a Nobody like Xigbar. They're from the past. Lea thought it was Isa, but it was still Saïx. Why else would we get a journal page about Saïx rather than Isa after we finish the game?

 

And the X is probably a Recusant Sigil.

 

This is not confimed Nomura hints that Siax and Xigbar might have been pulled from radiant garden before the other apprentices woke up. It's not suprising that they dropped their old names seeing as they are sucessful Nort Vessels

 

Xigbar and Saix appeared as members of Organisation XIII. Did they return as humans like Lea and the others?

Nomura: The conditions of becoming a human have been met, so you’d think they had returned, wouldn’t you? For them to have been with Xehanort and the others, perhaps they were collected after they had become humans and before Lea and the others woke up. You could say the same for the members of Organisation XIII that didn’t appear in this title, however… I’d rather everyone use their imaginations.

Edited August 6, 2012 by devereauxr

[JTD95 1,107]

This is not confimed Nomura hints that Siax and Xigbar might have been pulled from radiant garden before the other apprentices woke up. It's not suprising that they dropped their old names seeing as they are sucessful Nort Vessels

 

Xigbar and Saix appeared as members of Organisation XIII. Did they return as humans like Lea and the others?

Nomura: The conditions of becoming a human have been met, so you’d think they had returned, wouldn’t you? For them to have been with Xehanort and the others, perhaps they were collected after they had become humans and before Lea and the others woke up. You could say the same for the members of Organisation XIII that didn’t appear in this title, however… I’d rather everyone use their imaginations.

 

What I got out of that is that what Nomura means with the conditions of becoming a human have been met could mean that the Nobodies grew hearts which means they're technically humans now.

 

He could be hinting at that they were collect before the others woke up, or he could be giving away a possible explanation to make us think that is correct while he still hides the true explanation.

 

EDIT: And how exactly is Isa and Braig ditching those names for Saïx and Xigbar relevant for them being Xehanort Vessels?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

What I got out of that is that what Nomura means with the conditions of becoming a human have been met could mean that the Nobodies grew hearts which means they're technically humans now.

 

He could be hinting at that they were collect before the others woke up, or he could be giving away a possible explanation to make us think that is correct while he still hides the true explanation.

 

EDIT: And how exactly is Isa and Braig ditching those names for Saïx and Xigbar relevant for them being Xehanort Vessels?

 

They decided to keep the X bc they are a Nort. Recusant Sigil.... Nomura was hinting at the fact that some where from the past and some were not. We just dont know who .So its not confirmed

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

What I got out of that is that what Nomura means with the conditions of becoming a human have been met could mean that the Nobodies grew hearts which means they're technically humans now.

 

He could be hinting at that they were collect before the others woke up, or he could be giving away a possible explanation to make us think that is correct while he still hides the true explanation.

 

EDIT: And how exactly is Isa and Braig ditching those names for Saïx and Xigbar relevant for them being Xehanort Vessels?

 

The conditions that he is talking about is the heartless and the nobody being destroyed reviving the original person. Why else would he mention Lea and the others who revived in the same fashion.

 

They decided to keep the X bc they are a Nort. Recusant Sigil.... Nomura was hinting at the fact that some where from the past and some were not. We just dont know who .So its not confirmed

 

This Edited August 6, 2012 by devereauxr

[JTD95 1,107]

They decided to keep the X bc they are a Nort. Recusant Sigil.... Nomura was hinting at the fact that some where from the past and some were not. We just dont know who .So its not confirmed

 

Ansem doesn't bother with adding an X to his name so why should Isa and Braig.

His new name wouldn't neccassary be Xemnas, he could have some other variations.

 

The conditions that he is talking about is the heartless and the nobody being destroyed reviving the original person. Why else would he mention Lea and the others who revived in the same fashion.

 

He said the conditions were meant. Those conditions of becoming human could either be their Heartless and Nobody rejoining, or the Nobodies growing hearts thus making them humans. Either one of us could be correct.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Ansem doesn't bother with adding an X to his name so why should Isa and Braig.

His new name wouldn't neccassary be Xemnas, he could have some other variations.

 

 

He said the conditions were meant. Those conditions of becoming human could either be their Heartless and Nobody rejoining, or the Nobodies growing hearts thus making them humans. Either one of us could be correct.

 

Ansem wouldnt have to .Hes literally a Nort . He wasnt a vessel turned into a nort with a heartpiece like the others. He WAS Nort. The organization were all names with an X bc they were all supposed to be vessels. It makes sense why they would keep the X. Ansem wasnt part of the org. He didnt need 'marked'.. Xemnas as the creator would keep his X as well since he started it

Edited August 6, 2012 by Flaming Lea

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Ansem doesn't bother with adding an X to his name so why should Isa and Braig.

His new name wouldn't neccassary be Xemnas, he could have some other variations.

 

 

He said the conditions were meant. Those conditions of becoming human could either be their Heartless and Nobody rejoining, or the Nobodies growing hearts thus making them humans. Either one of us could be correct.

 

By that logic Axel should be human because he grew his heart back through his interactions with Roxas but we know for a fact that they were revived because their nobodies and heartless were defeated. Ansem is already a full nort why would he change his name its not the same as Siax and Xigbar who have now rejected their old selves and embraced the Nort heart. Edited August 6, 2012 by devereauxr

[JTD95 1,107]

By that logic Axel should be human because he grew his heart back through his interactions with Roxas btu we know for a fact that they were revived because their nobodies and heartless were defeated.

Axel did grow a heart, he did then technically become a human. But when he died his original body rejoined with his original heart.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Axel did grow a heart, he did then technically become a human. But when he died his original body rejoined with his original heart.

 

We dont know how much of a heart he grew . Budding one and it growing isnt exactly a full grown heart. It needs nuturing to grow which takes time. Which makes axel growing one but not neccessarily to the point of being human.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Axel did grow a heart, he did then technically become a human. But when he died his original body rejoined with his original heart.

 

Thus fullfilling the conditions I already stated above plus, everything has the ability to grow a heart it doesn't necessarily mean that they were human. Xion is a prime example this.