Road_To_Dawn 8 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) as the 13th vessel? After his attempt to use Sora was blocked (in epic fashion), he now only has 12. Also, did anyone else find it just a little disappointing that the ending of this game didn't show Ventus being woken up? (since, you know, Sora has the ability to unlock people's sleeping hearts) This undoubtedly has to be one of the key points in KHIII. Last thing: if Terranort is one of the dark entities, then how is Terra one of the light entities? Can they both exist at the same time? (perhaps Lea replaces Terra as one of the 7). Edited August 5, 2012 by Road_To_Dawn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) as the 13th vessel? After his attempt to use Sora was blocked (in epic fashion), he now only has 12. Also, did anyone else find it just a little disappointing that the ending of this game didn't show Ventus being woken up? (since, you know, Sora has the ability to unlock people's sleeping hearts) This undoubtedly has to be one of the key points in KHIII. Last thing: if Terranort is one of the dark entities, then how is Terra one of the light entities? Can they both exist at the same time? (perhaps Lea replaces Terra as one of the 7). Dark Entity: BBS-Terranort time-traveled from the past. Light Entity: Present-day Terra revived after the defeat of Ansem SOD and Xemnas. That's how they could both exist at the same time. Edited August 5, 2012 by Alan Smithee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decimo 243 Posted August 5, 2012 I personally want Xehanort to try with Sora again, he doesn't really look like the type who gives up easily, after all. I'm OK with Ventus being still asleep as of now, him waking up would be an important moment for the series, I prefer they wait until KH3 and make it memorable. Terra/nort isn't confirmed as one of the seekers of darkness, but even if he was, nobody said he can't be both. I doubt there's going to be a face-off of all seekers of darkness VS all guardians of light, so perhaps they'll defeat him, which will make him regain his memories and switch sides. 1 DG20 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 5, 2012 Terra can still be a light if he is saved before the final battle obviously.MX said the lights are naturally chosen which is why he has no problem using lights to turn into darknesses such as Terra and Sora. So if a light is needed a replacement will be chosen. 5 Handsome_the_Wise, Robbie the Wise, luka and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) I personally want Xehanort to try with Sora again, he doesn't really look like the type who gives up easily, after all. I'm OK with Ventus being still asleep as of now, him waking up would be an important moment for the series, I prefer they wait until KH3 and make it memorable. Terra/nort isn't confirmed as one of the seekers of darkness, but even if he was, nobody said he can't be both. I doubt there's going to be a face-off of all seekers of darkness VS all guardians of light, so perhaps they'll defeat him, which will make him regain his memories and switch sides. Terra having amnesia could explain how he could be subdued so easily by Xehanort. Edited August 5, 2012 by Alan Smithee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road_To_Dawn 8 Posted August 5, 2012 All good replies. I am unsure if I think there is going to be a clash or not. If there isn't, then WTF is Xehanort supposed to do to get the X-Blade? If there is, then we're missing some key people, because I'm pretty sure Terra needs to be unlocked from Terranort (or he needs to defeat him, or whatever) before a true final clash happens. Tangent: Will Terra and Sora become Masters in KHIII, or is Nomura going to stick with the more interesting plot twist of them not being true masters? (just thinking out loud. At this point, I think we can all agree that just about anything is possible with Xehanort in this series) 1 luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Well as you know there are several people needing saved like TAV so im sure that will happen throughout KH3. Also dont forget MX has back up plan after back up plan to fill his slots while there are currently 8 keyblade wielders of light options. There is room to play around with the options Also we dont know what Nomura will do with Roxas and Xion. The way Nomuras logic works he could bring them back ..or not ..lolz Edited August 5, 2012 by Flaming Lea 3 Demyx., Robbie the Wise and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road_To_Dawn 8 Posted August 5, 2012 Well as you know there are several people needing saved like TAV so im sure that will happen throughout KH3. Also dont forget MX has back up plan after back up plan to fill his slots while there are currently 8 keyblade wielders of light options. There is room to play around with the options Also we dont know what Nomura will do with Roxas and Xion. The way Nomuras logic works he could bring them back ..or not ..lolz I think they've been explained pretty thoroughly now. They're a part of Sora's heart, and they contribute to his ability to unlock hearts. I do wonder, however, how Ventus is going to be released. Will Riku have to dive again, or will Sora be able to unlock his own heart? (and since Sora already released Kairi's heart from within himself, then why in the world is Ventus' heart still in there?) This game answered so many questions, but created SO MANY MORE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decimo 243 Posted August 5, 2012 I honestly never gave it any thought, but now I do wonder if Terra is going to become a Keyblade Master by the end of KH3... Also we dont know what Nomura will do with Roxas and Xion. The way Nomuras logic works he could bring them back ..or not ..lolz Looking at the DDD opening video, I like to think that Roxas will definitely be back. (and since Sora already released Kairi's heart from within himself, then why in the world is Ventus' heart still in there?) Maybe Ventus heart wasn't ready to be awoken yet, that's why it went with Roxas instead, to keep staying hidden and protected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 5, 2012 I think they've been explained pretty thoroughly now. They're a part of Sora's heart, and they contribute to his ability to unlock hearts. I do wonder, however, how Ventus is going to be released. Will Riku have to dive again, or will Sora be able to unlock his own heart? (and since Sora already released Kairi's heart from within himself, then why in the world is Ventus' heart still in there?) This game answered so many questions, but created SO MANY MORE Roxas and Xion's fate hasnt been confirmed yet tho . Thats my point . Ansems' data could bring them back and this was alluded to in DDD. However, the way Nomura changes things game by game its really impossible to predict which way he will go. I honestly never gave it any thought, but now I do wonder if Terra is going to become a Keyblade Master by the end of KH3... Looking at the DDD opening video, I like to think that Roxas will definitely be back. Maybe Ventus heart wasn't ready to be awoken yet, that's why it went with Roxas instead, to keep staying hidden and protected. Maybe I wont count it out for sure .. That and Sora himself tells Roxas he deserved to exist as his own person. 3 Demyx., Robbie the Wise and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted August 5, 2012 Roxas and Xion's fate hasnt been confirmed yet tho . Thats my point . Ansems' data could bring them back and this was alluded to in DDD. However, the way Nomura changes things game by game its really impossible to predict which way he will go. Maybe I wont count it out for sure .. That and Sora himself tells Roxas he deserved to exist as his own person. So the fate of the universe rests within the contents of a beer bottle.... 2 luka and Caity reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted August 5, 2012 So the fate of the universe rests within the contents of a beer bottle.... Nomura logic . 3 Robbie the Wise, luka and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road_To_Dawn 8 Posted August 5, 2012 Someone needs to make a map/storyline of the Kingdom Hearts universe. I mean, I understand everything that is going on (other than some questions about time traveling), but it would be so much easier to explain to everyone with one graphic. 1 waytothexdawnx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Nomura logic . http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs Someone needs to make a map/storyline of the Kingdom Hearts universe. I mean, I understand everything that is going on (other than some questions about time traveling), but it would be so much easier to explain to everyone with one graphic. Someone did. They drew up a diagram explaining Xehanort's excellent-adventure/bogus-journey. They left out the part where he got melvined, though. Edited August 5, 2012 by Alan Smithee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road_To_Dawn 8 Posted August 5, 2012 http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs Someone did. They drew up a diagram explaining Xehanort's excellent-adventure/bogus-journey. They left out the part where he got melvined, though. Link me, please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted August 5, 2012 Link me, please 2 luka and waytothexdawnx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NO_HEART_XIII 312 Posted August 6, 2012 Lea will be taking Terra's place as a Guardian of Light. I think the 13 Seekers of Darkness are: 1.Master Xehanort 2. Young Xehanort 3. Ansem SoD 4. Xemnas 5. Braig 6. Isa 7. Xigbar (from a diffrent time) 8. Saïx (from a diffrent time) 9. Terra-Xehanort (from a diffrent time) 10. Ansem the Wise (he had that coat of for a reason in BBS, he's possessed) 11. Erauqs (in BBS MF had to be there for a reason, maybe to possess Erauqs) 12. Riku-Ansem (Riku from a diffrent time, when he wasnt so resistant to Darkness) 13. Vanitas (MF was in BBS time for something, maybe to retrieve Vanitas) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outbackjim21 83 Posted August 6, 2012 My votes on vanitas, for all we know, master xehanort's true plan for his 13th vessel was to extract vanitas from sora. Though if vanitas does get a revival scene, it better be in Kh3 or in a secret ending in a new game leading to 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decimo 243 Posted August 6, 2012 You know what would be hilarious? If Vanitas did in fact spend the last ten years inside Sora's heart, too, and when he gets released he decides to stick by Sora's side because he got attached to him or something. 1 DG20 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaii-Leiko 8 Posted August 6, 2012 Okay, I hope it's okay to ask these here, but after finishing the game just now there's a few things that have gotten me confused and I hope someone can help me... 1)? So throughout the entire game, Neither Sora nor Riku went to any actual worlds right? Sora fell asleep AGAIN at the beginning of 3D because of the Norts, and Riku went inside him and became a dream eater to protect him? 2) The rules for time travel really confused me, if you have to cast away your self how did Young Xehanort do it? He had his body. And what version of Master Xehanort was that? Was it the Master Xehanort from TAV's timeline? But that wouldn't have made sense because Young Xehanort claims to be the farthest in the past, so does that mean that Master Xehanort was the one from the present? If so what happened to Terra's body that he had been possessing? Was it released? And if he was the one from that timeline why did he disappear when "the time was up" he shouldn't have traveled through time. 3) 13 Darknesses vs 13 lights. Alright, the meaning behind that is obvious. But if the Xehanorts couldn't all exist there at the same time due to the time travel stuff, then how are they all going to be able to be there for the clash? Is Young Xehanort going to come back? Are the ones we know so far for certain are part of Xehanort's team: Master Xehanort Young Xehanort Ansem SOD Xemnas Braig Isa I had more questions but I forgot them, and I hope I don't sound like a complete noob I just want to make sure I get the plot, and thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decimo 243 Posted August 6, 2012 2) The rules for time travel really confused me, if you have to cast away your self how did Young Xehanort do it? He had his body. And what version of Master Xehanort was that? Was it the Master Xehanort from TAV's timeline? But that wouldn't have made sense because Young Xehanort claims to be the farthest in the past, so does that mean that Master Xehanort was the one from the present? If so what happened to Terra's body that he had been possessing? Was it released? And if he was the one from that timeline why did he disappear when "the time was up" he shouldn't have traveled through time. No, you don't have to cast away your body. To time travel you have to visit a time where your self already exists is some shape or another. The "cast his body" away thing was a reference to Ansem, being a Heartless and all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted August 6, 2012 Lol I made this credit please No, you don't have to cast away your body. To time travel you have to visit a time where your self already exists is some shape or another. The "cast his body" away thing was a reference to Ansem, being a Heartless and all. Actually you do need to cast away your body away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DG20 67 Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) I personally want Xehanort to try with Sora again, he doesn't really look like the type who gives up easily, after all. I'm OK with Ventus being still asleep as of now, him waking up would be an important moment for the series, I prefer they wait until KH3 and make it memorable. Terra/nort isn't confirmed as one of the seekers of darkness, but even if he was, nobody said he can't be both. I doubt there's going to be a face-off of all seekers of darkness VS all guardians of light, so perhaps they'll defeat him, which will make him regain his memories and switch sides. I agree, Xehanort has a plan for everything. I don't believe that this plan could have failed so easily and have him not have any backup plans. You know what would be hilarious? If Vanitas did in fact spend the last ten years inside Sora's heart, too, and when he gets released he decides to stick by Sora's side because he got attached to him or something. Yeah I'm expecting Ven and Sora to be extremely close. Sora has been linked since he was born after all (and saved his life a couple times). As for the time travel thing, I believe Sora has actually fulfilled the requirements once but it remains to be seen if he used this opportunity without remembering it. Edited August 6, 2012 by DG20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outbackjim21 83 Posted August 8, 2012 No, you don't have to cast away your body. To time travel you have to visit a time where your self already exists is some shape or another. The "cast his body" away thing was a reference to Ansem, being a Heartless and all. In order for young master xehanort to gain the power of time travel, Ansem SOD had to travel back in time and make contact with his former self, by doing so YMX would inherit his future selfs ability to time travel, but from what ymx says, I think the rules of time travel apply differently to one who does not cast their body away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephanie Reinking 0 Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) My votes on vanitas, for all we know, master xehanort's true plan for his 13th vessel was to extract vanitas from sora. Though if vanitas does get a revival scene, it better be in Kh3 or in a secret ending in a new game leading to 3 My friend pointed this out... In Kingdom Hearts 2 when anti sora came out...why did no one mention, take notice or seem to care? Is it a form of Vanitas trying to take over, or is that showing that even Sora has darkness in his heart and could in fact be a veasel for Xehanort? Edited June 4, 2013 by Stephanie Reinking Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites