Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) The difficulty of the games are going by Standard modes, which I always play on. Starting at Kingdom Hearts, the game was actually pretty difficult due to very limited controls and pretty over powering boss battles, but the game could easily be turned on it's head with a few hours of grinding. It didn't take long. (Just right) Then Kingdom Hearts II, where no matter how you played it, the game was a cake walk. This is excluding Sephiroth, who you have to grind for a bit to be able to stand up against. The last boss could also pose a threat if your not of adequate level, but it was very easy to get to level 99 in this game. (Very fun, but a bit too easy) Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, the game was a bit more difficult than Kingdom Hearts, but I am not sure if it was due to controls or legit difficulty spikes. The last I played it with my level 56 Roxas, the last boss went down mre easily than I remember. So maybe I just sucked back then. (Hard? Maybe it was just me. or because it was just monotonous) Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Now, this game was a bit too hard if you ask me. Regular fights can easily get too hard if you don't keep your level in check, and a few bosses, mainly the last few, are just way to rediculous to me. They relied on a crazy amount of dodging and guarding, with very little windows of attack, and killer attacks that could kill you in 2 hits. It takes too long to grind in this game, and when you have 3 characters to do it for, it becomes too repetitive and frustrating. Also, the requirments to get the secret ending are ludicrous and nearly impossible to do if you have a life. Overall though, I guess the pain this game dishes out is worth the payoff in story and emotion it gives. It is in my top 3 favorite KH games. (Too hard) Now, for Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. The game starts off a bit tough, but nothing like BBS. And it is one of the few games besides KHII that actually keeps getting easier, and with little effort. I think this is due to the Dream Eaters giving very good commands pretty early on and leveling up being fine turned to not take forever (ala BBS, KH, 358/2 Days). I have seen people complain about the bosses taking forever in this game, but never had I spent more than 5 to 10 minutes on a boss. Not once did I ever even Drop in the middle on a boss fight. Once, during one irritating fight as Riku, a boss that teleports everywhere pushed me to beating him just as my counter was striking 2 seconds, but that wasn't due to his life bar or difficulty, just his unfair teleporting. Even the last few bosses were pushovers to me; all of them. Though I was only like level 38 or 40 with 3 Curagas, Dark Firaga, Meteor, and Baloonga (all 4 recommened). So to me, the game wasn't hard, but it wasn't a cake walk like KHII was. Basically, if you watch for DE commands and do every fight you come across, your fine. No grinding needed. I never grinded or pay much attention to making many Dream Eaters, though I did use R&R Seal and Meow Jesty. So the game is perfect to me. (Just right) Now you may be asking why I did this. The short answer is; I was bored. And I find comments about bosses taking too long in almost every review, which is laughable considing the ease I beat it with. Birth by Sleep had bosses that took nearly 40 minutes, and even KHII did in it's later stages. KH3D actually has some of the shortest bosses in the series to me, and a good level of difficulty that pushes too easy, yet keeps you on your toes at times too without getting like BBS or 358/2 Days. And for ones wondering why I gave no mention of Coded or Chain of Memories, it's because I havn't had the chance to play Chain of Memories, and don't want to play Coded. Edited August 4, 2012 by Silent Fantasy 1 Nafees Rahman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLightning14 4 Posted August 4, 2012 I agree for the most part with this actually. Except for KH; that game was plain ridiculous at times. Haha, and with BBS, I'll admit, it's one of the games I've spent with the least which is ironic considering how much I liked the game. I still remember being stuck on Terra's final boss for a good hour and will admit it was more of a test of dodging and healing than actual skill. Those bosses were way too overpowered. As for KH3D, I was worried that it was going to be really hard based on some things I've read and videos I'd seen. Granted, I'm not done yet (I'm about to begin Symphony of Sorcery with both Sora and Riku at Level 40 each on Standard) but it's very balanced I feel. I do feel like the game gets easier too as I've found that just grinding a couple levels makes a HUGE difference when you go to the next world. So far, no trouble with bosses though but I'll see if that changes once I get to the final world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinHeartlessAngel 555 Posted August 4, 2012 I agree with the hardest game being BBS but, i never took that long on a boss fight. ever. in any game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) ^ If your at level 40 already, you will be fine. As for commands to have, always keep 2 or 3 Curagas close together and 1 on your shortcut. Wit hthe rest being obvious powerful attacks. The 3 I mentioned worked very well and dealt alot fo damage, which is why I recommened them. Though meteor was weaker than Dark Firaga for some reason. I would say more, but I don't want to ruin anything. Your stronger than I was at that point, so it should be easy for you. lol "I agree for the most part with this actually. Except for KH; that game was plain ridiculous at times. Haha, and with BBS, I'll admit, it's one of the games I've spent with the least which is ironic considering how much I liked the game. I still remember being stuck on Terra's final boss for a good hour and will admit it was more of a test of dodging and healing than actual skill. Those bosses were way too overpowered. As for KH3D, I was worried that it was going to be really hard based on some things I've read and videos I'd seen. Granted, I'm not done yet (I'm about to begin Symphony of Sorcery with both Sora and Riku at Level 40 each on Standard) but it's very balanced I feel. I do feel like the game gets easier too as I've found that just grinding a couple levels makes a HUGE difference when you go to the next world. So far, no trouble with bosses though but I'll see if that changes once I get to the final world." If your at level 40 already, you will be fine. As for commands to have, always keep 2 or 3 Curagas close together and 1 on your shortcut. Wit hthe rest being obvious powerful attacks. The 3 I mentioned worked very well and dealt alot fo damage, which is why I recommened them. Though meteor was weaker than Dark Firaga for some reason. I would say more, but I don't want to ruin anything. Your stronger than I was at that point, so it should be easy for you. lol" "I agree with the hardest game being BBS but, i never took that long on a boss fight. ever. in any game" It was an estimation, but only in BBS did it take me countless tries and over 30 minutes to beat the bosses. KH2 takes about 40 minutes, but that's due to it being dragged out rather than hard or any of the fights taking olng in themselves. Edited August 4, 2012 by Cricket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXVentusfanXx 33 Posted August 4, 2012 hardest game - 358/2 days (god knows what proud mode was like since standard felt like proud mode) Easiest game - KH2 (button mash and you win basically) The rest of the games arent all that tough except the difficulty spike in DDD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 4, 2012 The difficulty spike was hardly present in DDD to me, but almost too much in BBS. I'll give you 358/2 Days though. That game was almost as bad as BBS, just missing the payoff BBS gave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KissyFace 134 Posted August 4, 2012 Personally, I thought Days/Re;Coded was the hardest (on their respective highest difficulties) while BBS was the easiest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Dolan 963 Posted August 4, 2012 don't want to play Coded. But you played 358/2 Days, the worst game in the franchise. I think I can call you a facking idiot now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted August 4, 2012 I still think the 1st KH was the hardest, 2nd hardest would be a tie between DDD and Days. But since DDD's difficulty is more fresh in my mind, I'll say 2nd hardest KH game is DDD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted August 4, 2012 I thought it was pretty hard on proud mode considering that you can take damage during flowmotion. Just for continuity purposes, What difficulty are we basing all tis on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xalaru 445 Posted August 4, 2012 I played Standard: KH was easy until the end (aka Riku fights) where it became almost impossible. I played Standard: KH2 was easy (Xigbar and Xaldin were hell though). End of. I played Proud: BbS was just right. I still don't understand why people found Terranort hard, I beat him twice in the space of like half an hour (had to redo it 'cause I forgot a report). Bear in mind I've only played through Terra and Ven's story so far though. I played Standard: Days is pretty difficult unless you spend time grinding or are very good with the controls... I've still not got past that Leechgrave. I played Proud: DDD is easy. Probably forgotten a game (other than Re/CoM which I haven't played). But yeah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,690 Posted August 4, 2012 The difficulty of the games are going by Standard modes, which I always play on. Starting at Kingdom Hearts, the game was actually pretty difficult due to very limited controls and pretty over powering boss battles, but the game could easily be turned on it's head with a few hours of grinding. It didn't take long. (Just right) Then Kingdom Hearts II, where no matter how you played it, the game was a cake walk. This is excluding Sephiroth, who you have to grind for a bit to be able to stand up against. The last boss could also pose a threat if your not of adequate level, but it was very easy to get to level 99 in this game. (Very fun, but a bit too easy) Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, the game was a bit more difficult than Kingdom Hearts, but I am not sure if it was due to controls or legit difficulty spikes. The last I played it with my level 56 Roxas, the last boss went down mre easily than I remember. So maybe I just sucked back then. (Hard? Maybe it was just me. or because it was just monotonous) Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Now, this game was a bit too hard if you ask me. Regular fights can easily get too hard if you don't keep your level in check, and a few bosses, mainly the last few, are just way to rediculous to me. They relied on a crazy amount of dodging and guarding, with very little windows of attack, and killer attacks that could kill you in 2 hits. It takes too long to grind in this game, and when you have 3 characters to do it for, it becomes too repetitive and frustrating. Also, the requirments to get the secret ending are ludicrous and nearly impossible to do if you have a life. Overall though, I guess the pain this game dishes out is worth the payoff in story and emotion it gives. It is in my top 3 favorite KH games. (Too hard) Now, for Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. The game starts off a bit tough, but nothing like BBS. And it is one of the few games besides KHII that actually keeps getting easier, and with little effort. I think this is due to the Dream Eaters giving very good commands pretty early on and leveling up being fine turned to not take forever (ala BBS, KH, 358/2 Days). I have seen people complain about the bosses taking forever in this game, but never had I spent more than 5 to 10 minutes on a boss. Not once did I ever even Drop in the middle on a boss fight. Once, during one irritating fight as Riku, a boss that teleports everywhere pushed me to beating him just as my counter was striking 2 seconds, but that wasn't due to his life bar or difficulty, just his unfair teleporting. Even the last few bosses were pushovers to me; all of them. Though I was only like level 38 or 40 with 3 Curagas, Dark Firaga, Meteor, and Baloonga (all 4 recommened). So to me, the game wasn't hard, but it wasn't a cake walk like KHII was. Basically, if you watch for DE commands and do every fight you come across, your fine. No grinding needed. I never grinded or pay much attention to making many Dream Eaters, though I did use R&R Seal and Meow Jesty. So the game is perfect to me. (Just right) Now you may be asking why I did this. The short answer is; I was bored. And I find comments about bosses taking too long in almost every review, which is laughable considing the ease I beat it with. Birth by Sleep had bosses that took nearly 40 minutes, and even KHII did in it's later stages. KH3D actually has some of the shortest bosses in the series to me, and a good level of difficulty that pushes too easy, yet keeps you on your toes at times too without getting like BBS or 358/2 Days. And for ones wondering why I gave no mention of Coded or Chain of Memories, it's because I havn't had the chance to play Chain of Memories, and don't want to play Coded. And what about Chain of Memories? if I remember, correctly, that game was very hard especially when fighting Riku Replica (4th battle) and Larxene (2nd battle). It required a lot a skill, grinding, and a good deck. I would say that KH1 and CoM are the hardest KH games in the entire series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted August 4, 2012 No offense, but Ive never spent 40 minutes on a boss in KH2 on proud mode (Except final boss if you include all forms). Honestly Ive never played standard mode in BBS or DDD, but I feel once you get the hang of things in BBS critical mode is not hard (except for Terra). Also I find that DDD on proud mode is somewhat challenging, but also a tad bit harder than BBS critical mode. Now Re:COM on standard mode is extremely challenging regardless of what cards you have. Days was also easy on proud once I got better with the controls. Although I do realizes you were refering to standard mode I dont actually play on that mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainbowdash64 194 Posted August 4, 2012 But you played 358/2 Days, the worst game in the franchise. I think I can call you a facking idiot now. I think Days what a bit better than Re:coded. JUST barely. (Simply cause it had a great story. Game-play was so boring after 15 minutes) (onto my thoughts on the thread) KH1 standerd: Was quite easy if you grind a bit, all until Riku, which caused you to grind a ton for at LEAST 5/6 levels. KH2 standerd: If you can mash 'X', you can beat the game without grinding what-so-ever. (Aside from Dymex, who was quite hard) KH RE:chain: This game was insane. you had to grind an unbelieveable amount to even stand a chance, and when the 4th dark Riku fight came, I had to spend 3 days fighting him. KH days standerd: This game was quite hard actually, NOTHING like CoM, but still very hard. most of the bosses where tough, and required level grinding. (Except Riku. who I have never lost against) KH re:coded: Now here is an easy game. I hardly EVER died (even on critical) and the final fight was the easiest in the game. (sadly) KH DDD standerd: I actually felt this game was a bit hard. not insane, but hard. Most of the final fights where only a bit tough. (aside from Riku's 3rd fight. that one was very hard for me) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted August 4, 2012 KH1 standard is still the most challenging to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarknessOrLight 32 Posted August 4, 2012 KH1 I think the first time I did it, it was on standard, but once I got older better at video games, I played on proud. I have played all KH games on proud and found Days the most difficult and I also thought at times DDD can be difficult and at other times it can be easy, but I just finished Traverse Town second visit and I have a lvl 29 Riku and lvl 27 Sora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NO_HEART_XIII 312 Posted August 4, 2012 It's really just a matter of opinion & skill really. Like I found BBS to be very easy. Terranort was a fun challenge but other than that, easy. I think most people find DDD so hard because they are intimidated by all the really major bosses at the end. If you don't think you can do it, you're probably going to lose. Idk if KH1 or KH3D is harder. Probably KH1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) But you played 358/2 Days, the worst game in the franchise. I think I can call you a facking idiot now. Well, 358/2 Days showed me that a KH game can dissapoint me, and when Coded came out all I heard were bad things and the story is lacking. I know what happened in it (the important bits anyway), so there was no point in suffering through it. And if your serious about the idiot remark, I just question your maturity and intelligence. As for some comments about CoM, I said why I didn't mention it at the end of my post, though it is one I want to play eventually. It's why I hope they make an HD Collection with it included. From what very little I played of the GBA version, it was pretty hard. For KH2, I never spent 40 minutes on a boss fight in it either, I just said that with all the scenes and how many fights there are withen the final confrontation in KH2, it takes around 40 minutes to beat. On KH1, I do feel it can be one of the hardest, but grinding a bit takes care of it easily and doesn't take forever to do. Atleast it didn't withen the confines of my memory. I havn't actually played the original or KH2 since I was about 16, so it's been a few years. I sadly do not own a PS2 or KH2 anymore. It's really just a matter of opinion & skill really. Like I found BBS to be very easy. Terranort was a fun challenge but other than that, easy. I think most people find DDD so hard because they are intimidated by all the really major bosses at the end. If you don't think you can do it, you're probably going to lose. Idk if KH1 or KH3D is harder. Probably KH1. I may have found KHDDD and KH 358/2 Days easier recently due to my skill being better, so if I ever have the chance to play the other games again, my opinions could change. It is all subjective though, I am not claiming my opinion on their difficulties is fact. Edited August 4, 2012 by Silent Fantasy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Funny2never 3 Posted August 4, 2012 My first time I played birth by sleep I finished it at level 25 or so on standard and it was kinda easy once you got magnega, the only thing you had to worry about was bosses, however in DDD I find that some dream eaters like necho cat can combo you and knock you down to critical HP if you get caught by its attack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xig28 25 Posted August 4, 2012 i believe you shouldnt use the standard mode to test the difficulty of the game. you need to play critical mode to actually understand how difficult the game can be. same goes for the rest of the kh games. trying to compare each game difficulty on standard really isnt accurate enough. 1 Caio Montoro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Fantasy 43 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) Actually, all the games are different depending on what difficulty level chosen, so comparing them using Proud or Beginner/Casual would obviously change how I would have judged them. So it's not the game I am understanding, but it is the difficulty. The one I used to play every game I mentioned. KHBBS may be easier on Proud mode than 3D, but using Standard, BBS was harder than 3D. (To me) You can't understand a game's difficulty by turning up the Hard mode either. You have to look at the full package. But this is a moot point anyway. It's why I pointed out I was basing my opinions on Standard mode. Edited August 4, 2012 by Silent Fantasy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayne the Relentless 14 Posted August 20, 2012 I know this is a tad old but I happened to stumble upon in which checking to see if a certain topic existed. I've heard many people say this game was really easy but I really don't think the challenge comes from the difficulty. I think the challenge comes from how you build your deck. I feel like with 2 or 3 or more of any kind of cure makes it so you aren't actually learning how to survive, just making it so you're never in peril. And from what I hear about the spells like Balloon/ra/ga and Dark Firaga, you can provide a defense for yourself while doing overwhelming damage that may even stop a boss in it's tracks. I think the command deck was designed so that people that just wanted to get through the game could get through the game and people who wanted to challenge themselves could challenge themselves. I personally found this game to be rather difficult but I purposely made it that way. I decided to keep myself underleveled, in this case, level 1, I decided to have only 1 curative spell in my deck, for my case cura. I decided to stick with the original keyblades and I decided to only use physical skills which are a lot less stronger than the spells I mentioned. This makes it so I need to learn and time everything to survive against a boss and due to my absurdly low damage it becomes a test of endurance and patience as well. Granted this is on Critical Mode I feel like it could apply to the easier modes as well. My point simply is this game is only as hard as the player allows it to be and I feel like this might be something a lot of people don't notice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weiss 8,279 Posted August 20, 2012 But you played 358/2 Days, the worst game in the franchise. I think I can call you a facking idiot now. Really for me it was coded. Or were you reffering to difficulty? Anyway: Kh1/fm- Yeah not too hard but just right on proud/expert mode. Kh com- Hmm.... well it is 2d so take that into account. It also uses cards. I would say it is pretty even (but then again it is one of my favs so yeah.). Kh re com- meh on proud mode pretty even on sora's story and easy on riku's Kh2/fm- are you kidding? everything is easy EXCEPT for the cave of remembrance bosses (im looking at you data demyx [always turning me into anti form when I need wisdom lol]). Kh days- proud mode is hard especially if you try mission mode by yourself. BBS- More balanced. I guess first time through can be tough though. coded: never played it Re: coded- uh.. hmmm... only difficult if you do a low level (or level one) critical run. I mean the final boss is quite easy in strategy DDD: now the difficulties are picked perfectly here so: Begginer: never played on this mode Standard: pretty well.. standard (yeah yeah I know)so yeah. Proud: here we go once I played proud Mode I felt accomplished. I didnt do I full level one run :unsure: but I had to level up to like 6 just for the YMX fight. So IMO great difficulty Critical: *note working on still. in Country of muscketeers right now* Ok so I'm not doing a level one run at all here. This is hard (not days mission mode solo hard but still harrrddd) I currently see the difficulty here is finishing bosses before dropping therefore I have 2x drop me nots and the rest cure(a)(aga). It is more of a learning a bosses strategy. Kind of like old school rpgs. Anyway yeah Overall: Most ppl however have different hardest games. Where I say it is days others will say Kh1 and then others BBS and so on. So this is just what I have gathered. I can honestly say that critical level one in DDD scares me. I don't think it is hard. I think it is IMPOSSIBLE considering the drops. Oh well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Dolan 963 Posted August 20, 2012 Really for me it was coded. Or were you reffering to difficulty? Anyway: Kh1/fm- Yeah not too hard but just right on proud/expert mode. Kh com- Hmm.... well it is 2d so take that into account. It also uses cards. I would say it is pretty even (but then again it is one of my favs so yeah.). Kh re com- meh on proud mode pretty even on sora's story and easy on riku's Kh2/fm- are you kidding? everything is easy EXCEPT for the cave of remembrance bosses (im looking at you data demyx [always turning me into anti form when I need wisdom lol]). Kh days- proud mode is hard especially if you try mission mode by yourself. BBS- More balanced. I guess first time through can be tough though. coded: never played it Re: coded- uh.. hmmm... only difficult if you do a low level (or level one) critical run. I mean the final boss is quite easy in strategy DDD: now the difficulties are picked perfectly here so: Begginer: never played on this mode Standard: pretty well.. standard (yeah yeah I know)so yeah. Proud: here we go once I played proud Mode I felt accomplished. I didnt do I full level one run :unsure: but I had to level up to like 6 just for the YMX fight. So IMO great difficulty Critical: *note working on still. in Country of muscketeers right now* Ok so I'm not doing a level one run at all here. This is hard (not days mission mode solo hard but still harrrddd) I currently see the difficulty here is finishing bosses before dropping therefore I have 2x drop me nots and the rest cure(a)(aga). It is more of a learning a bosses strategy. Kind of like old school rpgs. Anyway yeah Overall: Most ppl however have different hardest games. Where I say it is days others will say Kh1 and then others BBS and so on. So this is just what I have gathered. I can honestly say that critical level one in DDD scares me. I don't think it is hard. I think it is IMPOSSIBLE considering the drops. Oh well. I was referring to everything but the difficulty. Good job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weiss 8,279 Posted August 20, 2012 I was referring to everything but the difficulty. Good job. Well I guess I see what you mean. Everyone who has ever played days always has at least one complaint, and it is always the same. Repetitive missions. I guess I'm okay with the story since Xion is my second fav kingdom hearts character. But many ppl don't like the story and that is natural. I'm sure there are ppl who hated Kh1's story. Anyway, I can definetly see where your coming from though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites