Where Terra really is (spoilers I guess)

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I haven't posted a KH thread in quite a while, but after watching a DDD walkthrough and seeing something interesting, I decided to post. This is just a little theory on where Terra is at this point in the story.

 

Because all of the time travelling mindfiretruckery Dream Drop Distance has to offer, Xemnas and Ansem are still alive, and essentially Terra split into two. We all know that Xemnas is Terra's body, but I believe that Terra's heart is NOT Ansem, but essentially the Guardian that is attached to him. I believe it's been stated (will look up later to confirm) that Terra's and Xehanort's hearts sort of "merged", which is why the Guardian is still attached to Ansem after Xehanort splits into Heartless and Nobody.

 

 

This is the image from the scene that made me come up with this theory. The Guardian seems to show human emotion almost, reaching out to Riku before fading away. If this theory is correct, I guess we won't be seeing Terra for a while, considering the fact that Ansem seems to always return in some way after he is defeated. What do you guys think?

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  On 7/31/2012 at 5:24 PM, 'Space Cowboy' said:

I haven't posted a KH thread in quite a while, but after watching a DDD walkthrough and seeing something interesting, I decided to post. This is just a little theory on where Terra is at this point in the story.

 

Because all of the time travelling mindfiretruckery Dream Drop Distance has to offer, Xemnas and Ansem are still alive, and essentially Terra split into two. We all know that Xemnas is Terra's body, but I believe that Terra's heart is NOT Ansem, but essentially the Guardian that is attached to him. I believe it's been stated (will look up later to confirm) that Terra's and Xehanort's hearts sort of "merged", which is why the Guardian is still attached to Ansem after Xehanort splits into Heartless and Nobody.

 

 

This is the image from the scene that made me come up with this theory. The Guardian seems to show human emotion almost, reaching out to Riku before fading away. If this theory is correct, I guess we won't be seeing Terra for a while, considering the fact that Ansem seems to always return in some way after he is defeated. What do you guys think?

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6BL6QvKljo

 

....because when Aqua fights Terranort in BBS, at some point she enters his Heart/mind/whatever, where she sees Terra and the Guardian as seperate entities, and even teams up with Terra to attack the Guardian.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Alan Smithee

[JTD95 1,108]

Terra's heart wasn't consumed by the darkness, how can it be the Guardian? When fighting Terra-Xehanort and the Guardian, Terra is inside Terra-Xehanort trying to regain control over his body. Something which led to Xehanort saying, "This will teach you, get out of my heart!"

 

  On 7/31/2012 at 5:24 PM, 'Space Cowboy' said:

Because all of the time travelling mindfiretruckery Dream Drop Distance has to offer, Xemnas and Ansem are still alive, and essentially

 

They're not really still alive. They've been brought from the past into the future and eventually they have to return to their own time and follow their fate.

 

  On 7/31/2012 at 5:24 PM, 'Space Cowboy' said:

This is the image from the scene that made me come up with this theory. The Guardian seems to show human emotion almost, reaching out to Riku before fading away.

Seems more like his pissed and tries to crush Riku but isn't strong enough to do so.

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nomura got to the point in this series where he can do what he wants nothing is out of the question time travel anyone?

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Yeah, I've always thought that Ansem's Heartless was Terra

[Kirie 3,489]

Yep

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  On 7/31/2012 at 5:56 PM, 'JTD95' said:

Terra's heart wasn't consumed by the darkness, how can it be the Guardian?

 

Heart wasn't consumed by darkness? Wasn't that Xehanort's plan all along?

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Well we all know Nomura the guy loves nothing more than leaving massive plot holes and then answering them in the future titles and leaving even more plot holes.

If we look this logically then the answer lies in the inter section of what is Guardian/where is Terra.

However we do not know the number of answers until nomura confirms it in Kingdom Hearts 3 or leaves both questions open to fanfiction just to troll us even harder.

If we accept your hypothesis on Terra and Guardian being the same person then we can count how many plot holes it answers VS creates, the number that proves to be greater will be chosen as the temporary truth until KH3.

However that number could still be miscalculated because only Nomura know's the actual number of plot holes proven by Dream Drop Distance.

In the end this is classic case of bonum nos malum and we will have to wait for 3-1640 years to find the answer.

 

 

(PS:That was me in Nomura mode i made no sense but you loved every second of it :angry:)

Edited July 31, 2012 by Kiesare

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  On 7/31/2012 at 6:32 PM, 'hatok' said:

Heart wasn't consumed by darkness? Wasn't that Xehanort's plan all along?

 

Eraqus's Heart prevents Xehanort's from consuming Terra's.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Alan Smithee

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  On 7/31/2012 at 6:32 PM, 'hatok' said:

Heart wasn't consumed by darkness? Wasn't that Xehanort's plan all along?

 

Sort of. Wasn't his plan to just make him accept the darkness, not be consumed by it and become a Heartless? Also, I see no signs in BbS of Terra becoming a Heartless.

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  On 7/31/2012 at 10:25 PM, 'JTD95' said:

Sort of. Wasn't his plan to just make him accept the darkness, not be consumed by it and become a Heartless? Also, I see no signs in BbS of Terra becoming a Heartless.

 

Keep in mind Guardian doesn't appear until AFTER Terranort stabs himself

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  On 8/1/2012 at 2:06 AM, 'hatok' said:

Keep in mind Guardian doesn't appear until AFTER Terranort stabs himself

 

The Guardian appears alongside with him during the second battle with Aqua. He doesn't stab himself until after the second battle.

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  On 8/1/2012 at 7:10 AM, 'JTD95' said:

The Guardian appears alongside with him during the second battle with Aqua. He doesn't stab himself until after the second battle.

 

Hm, yes. I rewatched the battle

But that made me notice two things

One of them; Terranort says "Terra's heart has been extinguished! Smothered by the darkness within him!" So there's that

But there's also that weird psychological attack you can do if you reach Terra, which is a trinity limit with Terra, Aqua and Guardian.

Also he DOES release Guardian from within himself, while emanating darkness.

It's nebulous, I know.

But for all we know, what really happened was Terra created a heartless when Terranort lost his ten years later, but Guardian is still with Terranort because

 

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