Do you think hemp and marijuana should be legalized?

[WakelessDream 2,280]

My friend overdosed and she forgot everyone and the school didn't let her come back. I would do anything to talk to her again. Even if she won't remember me......

 

I know how that feels except unlike your friend she didn't lose her memory but I think she'd be just fine losing her memory of me it seems like that's what it's coming to.

Drug sob stories for the lose D':

[hatok 6,413]

tutti frutti. I would say no, namely because I've seen the bad side to it. Plus, I think that bad things could take place should it be legalized.

 

The thing is, the bad side is probably being brought out by it being illegal.

For some reason, human beings have a certain need to rebel. By creating things that are 'wrong', we create a source for a person to satiate that need.

That's my theory behind legalization, anyways.

[EdeaKramer 32]

i think they should, marijuana doesn't has that addictive as other drugs have

besides it also is a really good medicine, there are doctors who actually prescribe it as a medicine for people who have chronic pain, making it somewhat legal for them to use actually (at least that is the case here, though very rare)

besides legalizing drugs would be way better in a controlled matter, in the Netherlands you could go to coffeshops for years to get your soft drugs and this year they started to bring in a pass so that only dutch people could get some more, the result now is that there is dealt way more drugs on the streets there what also has the effect of getting sold hard drugs, drug dealers are just of that kind to offer you heavier stuff in the hope you get addicted and they can get more money from you

i think a lot of people actually start drugs in rebellion, it is against the law so they start with it and then the downwards negative spiral, there would be nothing cool about taking drugs when it is legal to a lot of people, and you must remember that most addictions start small, so probably the effect will be that there will be used less drugs.

[Weedanort 8,786]

Hm, I really don't know what to say about this.

 

I don't know anyone that has tried marijuana, but I've seen several documentaries to know that marijuana's illegal if we overdo it, and that it's legal for medical uses.

 

So I think that we're good as we are.

[rikufan25 170]

I say that it should be legalized as long as it is ONLY if it is prescribed by a doctor. Marijuana has side effects that are harmful if they become abused. And I've got no idea what hemp is.

Edited July 18, 2012 by rikufan25

[TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689]

I don't really see anything bad about it nor would I want to involve myself with or in it.

 

In Canada, only medical marijuana is legal so I'm pretty happy with that.

[Godot 513]

just for the record, you still can't legally be prescribed medical marijuana in the US. a doctor can recommend it, but then you have to apply for an ID card showing you are allowed to grow and possess it.

 

even though i don't use either, i definitely think both medicinal and recreational marijuana should be legalized. medical marijuana is one of the safest forms of medication and it can treat a wide variety of conditions. using it recreationally has very few bad side effects (unless you get addicted to it, but that's a moot point) compared to other drugs and the state can tax the hell out of it, so it's a win-win situation.

[_The Door To Light_ 1,507]

I feel that if it were to be legal it should be only recommended by a doctor.

I have seen both the negative a positive sides of the drug and on the positive side, it can help treat varieties of pain especially those in cancer patients.

[Queen Tery 4,591]

just for the record, you still can't legally be prescribed medical marijuana in the US. a doctor can recommend it, but then you have to apply for an ID card showing you are allowed to grow and possess it.

 

even though i don't use either, i definitely think both medicinal and recreational marijuana should be legalized. medical marijuana is one of the safest forms of medication and it can treat a wide variety of conditions. using it recreationally has very few bad side effects (unless you get addicted to it, but that's a moot point) compared to other drugs and the state can tax the hell out of it, so it's a win-win situation.

 

Get high and save your economy today!

[Amon 4,279]

No, it has the effects of alcohol with the bodily damage to yourself and others as smoking.

 

http://www.cracked.c...ent-helping_p2/

 

Read the article, it basically shoots down every pro-marijuana argument that has been mentioned in this thread and will be mentioned in this thread. The best part is that most of what is said is basic common sense. Why people can't grasp the concept that inhaling smoke of any kind be it from wood, jetfuel, tobacco, marijuana, or my ass is harmful is beyond me.

 

Also, this thread will turn into a flame war by the fourth page. The only thing that gets this forum more riled up than marijuana discussions are abortion discussions.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Amon

[DragonMaster 1,166]

*Note, sorry if this post seems like it is disjointed or messy. Its currently eleven forty, and I am responding to this before I go to bed.

No. I am completely against the legalization of recreational marijuana, and I really don't seen much point in legalizing it medically. Basically,

No, it has the effects of alcohol with the bodily damage to yourself and others as smoking.

 

http://www.cracked.c...ent-helping_p2/

 

Read the article, it basically shoots down every pro-marijuana argument that has been mentioned in this thread and will be mentioned in this thread. The best part is that most of what is said is basic common sense. Why people can't grasp the concept that inhaling smoke of any kind be it from wood, jetfuel, tobacco, marijuana, or my ass is harmful is beyond me.

 

Also, this thread will turn into a flame war by the fourth page. The only thing that gets this forum more riled up than marijuana discussions are abortion discussions.

 

this. Couldn't have said it better.

 

I should probably just stop here before I start ranting, and probably making a illegible post in my tired state. However, I will go against that thought, and continue. Oh, and I will only be focusing on why I don't think it should be legalized for recreational use.

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Since I am tired, I really just want to focus on the one argument that really freaking annoys me. That is, marijuana is safer than cigarettes and alcohol. My response? What kind of lame excuse is this? Seriously, at least the arguments that it is useful for cancer patients etc. doesn't betray the real issue, or the entire fight. This excuse shows exactly why people really want it legalized, just as the article Amon provided said, people want to get high without breaking the law. Its alright, don't hide it. Really, it is a better fricking excuse that saying "Oh, it isn't even as bad as a cigarette". Good for it, it isn't cancer in a stick! "Oh, it isn't even as bad as alcohol!" Awesome, except I am pretty sure I could just as easily die doing something (like driving) high as I could drunk. What about all those other bad things alcohol does? To be honest, I don't know and/or remember, you are probably right in that marijuana isn't as bad. You know what though, who cares if it isn't as bad as cigs and booze? Again, refer to the link Amon provided. TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL CAN KILL YOU. If I controlled the world, tobacco would be ever bit as illegal as weed is now, and alcohol would not be in any drink.

 

Back to the first point. It is painfully obvious that many just want it legalized so they can smoke it, get high, and they won't get arrested. Why get high, though? Don't you have anything better to do with your life than smoke so much that your mind starts tripping out? Play a game, read a book, exercise, sleep, watch TV, talk to a friend, use the internet. There is so much you could do. I don't care if you are a homeless person with nothing in your life but you and whatever possessions you may have (and really, if you are, you have things you should be worrying about other than buying weed). What does getting high do for you, that can't be gained doing something else. Get a hobby, find something you enjoy (that doesn't include sitting on your butt, breathing in the smoke of a dead plant).

 

Anyways, I'm too tired to continue. I am sure I've probably overlooked something that I'll regret later (I always seem to regret posting things like these), and probably have made a new enemy. Flame shield activate and all that jazz. And because I am sure I'll get a response like "just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean you should be telling people how to live their lives", don't waste your breath (...or... typing strength?). I basically think like this, letting someone ruin their life is unjust, and letting someone ruin their life along with the lives of others is pure cruelty. The fact is, you may just be smoking to have a good time, but you have no idea what that may lead to, one day. My best example I can make is this:

An alcoholic has the potential to ruin their own life, and it is unjust to just sit idly by and watch them waste away. A drunk driver runs the potential to ruin their own life with their stupidity, and also the lives of the innocent; to sit idly by and watch all waste away is cruelty.

 

Yup, really going to finish the post here now. I'm looking forward to seeing my argument picked apart, hate posts, agreements, people preaching how I shouldn't force my opinion on to others, twisting my "moral" (that ruin life part at the end of the last paragraph) in order to prove me as a hippocrit, and anything in between. Or, also possible, no response whatsoever, or even a mod locking this thread right after my post (because this thread really has only one direction it can ultimately take, just like its predecessors), Also, I'll see if I can actually leave a real argument some other time.

[Kaneki Ken 1,516]

I believe marijuana should b legal because it can be used for medical purposes, and possibly could fix the economy as well.

I heard that it can make be a good type of herb to put in food as well to give it an extra spice.

However, I think marijuana should not be used for smoking to get high. Smoking the weed can hurt ur lungs, brain, and heart as well.

 

Legal for medicines

Illegal if u smoke it.

That's the way I see it.

[hatok 6,413]

The argument that the argument that it's not as dangerous as other legal substances being beside the point is silly.

The point is, a person can drink or smoke, and society says it's okay, so why can't a person choose to do something comparatively better?

Sure, it's still dangerous, has health risks. All that good stuff. But a person people want to do it. And will do it. And if people wanting to do stuff like drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes has kept them legal, why can't a person do this?

Also, Amon, shame on your for summoning Cracked to fight your battles.

[Phillip Flowerchild 4]

I think hemp should be legalised to be used as a replacement of trees to make paper, cardboard, etc. that was an idea that was going around in the 40s hemp is faster to grow and it grows more per plant. But weed should stay illegal, because if it were legalised it would cost more.

[TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689]

Basically, I'm passive either way. If it's legalized, it's legalized. If it says illegal, it stays illegal. I'm not for or against it.

[hatok 6,413]

Basically, I'm passive either way. If it's legalized, it's legalized. If it says illegal, it stays illegal. I'm not for or against it.

 

Spoken like a true Canadian.

[Rob 5,571]

Some people will harm their bodies to get marijuana.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3FFoYLGo7c

 

[DragonMaster 1,166]

The argument that the argument that it's not as dangerous as other legal substances being beside the point is silly.

The point is, a person can drink or smoke, and society says it's okay, so why can't a person choose to do something comparatively better?

Sure, it's still dangerous, has health risks. All that good stuff. But a person people want to do it. And will do it. And if people wanting to do stuff like drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes has kept them legal, why can't a person do this?

Also, Amon, shame on your for summoning Cracked to fight your battles.

 

The way I see it, society shouldn't see it as okay (indeed, it seems society is actually slowly turning against tobacco), as the effects of alcohol and tobacco are not solely present on just the one person partaking in the activities. Truly, drinking in your house alone, and not leaving, is the only way to have you the only one at risk. Smoking, public or private, is harmful to everyone. Even if you smoke alone, in your house, the effects of second hand smoke will linger all over your body, home, and the smoke will add to air pollution (while one smoker contributes very, very little, there are thousands upon thousands of smokers).

 

The idea that we should let people take the risk, if they are willing to face it, is a difficult one to counter. There are countless situations this could appear in, and nearly every activity has an element of danger in some form or another. For every example there is for not letting people take the risk, there is an example where letting the person decide for themselves would be the right choice. Indeed, the only way to truly make sense of this is to take on a case by case basis. In the case of weed, I see no reason that someone should use it for recreational use, exactly how I see no reason for someone for someone to utilize tobacco or alcohol for recreational use. All these substances do is harm the body in a multitude of ways, all just to get the sensation of pleasure. There are plenty of other ways to find pleasure that don't involve damaging your body. Even then, causing yourself damage doing something like (just an example I pulled out of nowhere) skiing is much more respectable than hurting yourself when drunk/high, drinking away your liver, smoking out your lungs, so on and so forth.

 

What benefits does recreational marijuana use even give to a person? Little to none. The fact that it is less harmful than something like tobacco is completely irrelevant. The point remains is that it is still harmful. What does getting high do for you? Sure, you get to have "fun". What else? I can have fun doing any number of things, that are all ready legal. If you are that desperate to get high, then you are probably going to get marijuana (and other drugs) whether they are legal or not. The bitter irony is, if you are fighting to get marijuana legalized so that you yourself can use it in a recreational manner; then chances are that you yourself have already felt the effects illegally. If that is the case, what is stopping you from doing so again?

 

Maybe marijuana isn't as addictive as tobacco is. So what? The fact remains that it can become addictive. I have seen this first hand. Riding the bus to high school exposes you to many people. Out of four pot smokers that I can recall, two were addicted, one had to quit for his job (and he hated it), and one wasn't addicted (at least from what I saw). Of the two addicted, one is now in jail. The other was on parole (and was, in fact, the sister of the one in jail). Though, in retrospect, I suppose that detail doesn't really have anything to do with my argument.

 

Anyway, since I have already wrote a small essay, I'll try to wrap this up. I wouldn't be opposed to legalizing it for medical use (just add it to the every growing list of abused prescription medicines...), but I still see no reason to legalize it for recreational use. It has literally no benefit outside of those medicinal purposes, and any money gained from taxing the sales would more than likely be moot in the face of our trillion dollar deficit (not getting into this, economics is not one of my strong points). If they want to tax something, just raise taxes on already legal self-abuse substances such as alcohol and tobacco, which are both addictive (and have hordes of people addicted to them); since people are hopelessly addicted to these things, they'll continue to buy, despite any complaints. If you want it legalized just so you can get high legally, find something better to do with your time (which is NOT hard).

 

 

Oh, and this was in no way directed at you, hatok. I am not even sure if you were responding to me in particular. I was just merely using your comment as a spring board. Also, I see no reason that Cracked can't be a reliable source (at least in context of this thread). Despite its reputation as a site built for laughs, I find that is not a reason for the site to not be considered legitimate, especially in a casual debate such as this (which, given some of the comments, and the site that we are currently one, it is). Judging based on reputation alone is no good, look at Wikipedia. Sure, anyone can write something there, but there are many editors, and at any one time the information you are reading on there is most likely correct. The reason it isn't allowed in a formal essay, is that the articles are constantly changing (reason straight from my English teacher). However, that is not a debate I feel like getting into (one at a time is enough), and is irrelevant to this argument as a whole*.

 

*Which, now that I think about it, makes my commenting on it somewhat pointless...

[Geralt 4,874]

Well This may sound confusing and really critical but here I go. If it is legalized It can be smoked anywhere allowed like a cigarette. There are people who don't like marijuana and there are kids who shouldn't be around it. Basically that is saying everyone's gonna get high from all that second hand smoke due to a high amount of stoners especially in New York, LA, and such heavily populated places. I do say It should be legalized for Medical use due to it being a medicine but should be strictly used as told, prescribed legally, grown legally, etc.