Ven 4 Posted January 19, 2010 ~Careful, may contain spoilers, and if you read, read ALL of it~ We all know now Ven's identity.. He's somewhat of Sora's heart. Okay, but even so, why does Xigbar see XION as Ven? Wouldn't have it been more logical if he had seen SORA or ROXAS as Ven? I don't want to hear you telling me "that's because she's made up of Sora's most emotional memory and since she is actually Sora more or less she appeared to Xigbar as Ven"..... I know that, but that doesn't make sense to me. Then he would've seen Sora and Roxas as Ven as well. Therefore.. I got a thesis: It is never said if Xemnas found the Chamber of Waking -the one Ven sleeps in- or not. So let's assume he found it, took Ven's body (which has no heart as his heart is in Sora) and filled it up with Sora's memories. On the one hand this would include Sora's memories, giving him Xion's appearance, on the other hand it could also give reason to his/her Ven appearance towards Xigbar. So maybe Ven has already merged with Sora back and the Chamber of Waking is empty now. Of course I do not have any proof. I can just assume things, not proof them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aXinator 0 Posted January 19, 2010 he sees Xion as Ven because the memories nobodies function off of are memories of their sombody. Ven and Braig new each other from birth by sleep. im pretty sure thats why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mithurshun 2 Posted January 19, 2010 From i've heard people see Xion as they remember her. Since she was created from Sora's memories he must have seen her as ven. Because he doesn't met Sora before KH2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heike 53 Posted January 19, 2010 Yep i agree! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ven 4 Posted January 19, 2010 I get your points, but it just seems to be too simple to me. Or let me say it this way: I'll be very disappointed if THIS is all there is about his cameo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heike 53 Posted January 19, 2010 Like it or not this is his Cameo i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cococrash11 3 Posted January 19, 2010 He see Xion as Ventus because her existance is made of Sora's Memories. And memories are the key point of the heart. Since Ventus's heart merge with Sora when he was little. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limen123 28 Posted January 19, 2010 ~Careful, may contain spoilers, and if you read, read ALL of it~ We all know now Ven's identity.. He's somewhat of Sora's heart. Okay, but even so, why does Xigbar see XION as Ven? Wouldn't have it been more logical if he had seen SORA or ROXAS as Ven? I don't want to hear you telling me "that's because she's made up of Sora's most emotional memory and since she is actually Sora more or less she appeared to Xigbar as Ven"..... I know that, but that doesn't make sense to me. Then he would've seen Sora and Roxas as Ven as well. Therefore.. I got a thesis: It is never said if Xemnas found the Chamber of Waking -the one Ven sleeps in- or not. So let's assume he found it, took Ven's body (which has no heart as his heart is in Sora) and filled it up with Sora's memories. On the one hand this would include Sora's memories, giving him Xion's appearance, on the other hand it could also give reason to his/her Ven appearance towards Xigbar. So maybe Ven has already merged with Sora back and the Chamber of Waking is empty now. Of course I do not have any proof. I can just assume things, not proof them. You're wrong on a few points. People who look at Xion see lots of things. Saix saw her as a puppet, Axel and Roxas saw her real self, Xigbar sees her as Ven because, well, you know... And he also sees her as Ven because he met Ven somewhere in his life already. They already told us he hasn't found it. They were looking for it throughout Days, and KHII. Including Sora's memories(all of it, in this case) wouldn't change Ven. It would just make him Sora with a different body, wondering why he looks different. Xion changed looks because they only took Sora's most precious memories which, in this case, was Kairi. That explains why she looks like her in a way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enzio 0 Posted January 20, 2010 maybe because xion and ventus looked xigbar as the same way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cricket 1,180 Posted January 20, 2010 I do not think he ever found the Chamber of Waking. It may be impossible to find it, because Ven's heart is within Sora's now; however, I do not understand why Sora could not find the chamber of Waking in CoM, since he contains Ventus' heart within his. Sora is the one who can connect his heart with anyone. Xion takes on Ventus' appearance because she is a part of Sora who is connected to Ven and Roxas. I think Roxas took on the appearance as Ven because when Sora released his heart in KH1, other hearts were released as well. Roxas could actually be more like Ven in some way or another, and I also agree with why they were not like "Oh my gosh, Roxas looks just Ven!" and they look at Xion as "You look like him." I understand why they say this to her because of the Sora/Roxas/Ven connection, but it also makes me go back to KHII, when Xigbar first confronts Sora and he says "He used to give me the same look." (or something like that) and Sora is distracted for a moment and then goes back into battle stance. That may have a relation to either Ven or Roxas. Roxas holds a different personality than Ventus in some cases and Sora matches Ventus' personality or vice-versa. So that may be why they look at Roxas differently. Xion can take on any form and appear to someone as someone else. She is connected to everyone's memory who is related to Sora, therefore causing numerous appearances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soraxtiffany 2 Posted January 20, 2010 Spoilers maybe ~ * you know how it is said that xion was Sora's spillled memories ? And how it took the place of Kairi cause of his strong feelings for her . Maybe because of his strong connection with ven it took his place ALSO . . . It could be possible that sora has Met Met ven (SPOILER:besides letting him live in his heart and the when he was a little boy ) He could possible have met him somehow somewhere else. . . again ( kh3 ?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naught2 0 Posted January 21, 2010 SPOILERS/Theories Ven may have been a part of Sora at one point in the past, and had been taken from Sora's heart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxoae8XC6o (1:10) so when he goes back into sora's heart, he is there with Kairi till Sora releases his heart. By that time, maybe Ven's heart became infused with Sora's for being there for so long. this could explain Roxas' appearance to resemble Ven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites