AntonioKHT 449 Posted July 12, 2012 Terra's body is somewhere out there, still possessed by Xehanort, since it was Terranort that became a hearless and nobody. I don't think his heart got away, that doesn't make any sense, since it wasn't damaged or like, kicked out... The situation has nothing to do with Kairi's or Ventus... Kairi didn't have darkness so she couldn't become a heartless, so her heart went to Sora. Ventus heart was highly damaged and went to meet Sora's, who had already "fixed" it once... (Doesn't make much sense that The Keyblade to Release/Unlock People's heart's didn't set Ventus's heart free, at least up until now... The only thing I can guess is that Ventus is more connected to Sora, but there's no real explanation) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiavGever 5 Posted July 12, 2012 Terra's body is somewhere out there, still possessed by Xehanort, since it was Terranort that became a hearless and nobody. I don't think his heart got away, that doesn't make any sense, since it wasn't damaged or like, kicked out... The situation has nothing to do with Kairi's or Ventus... Kairi didn't have darkness so she couldn't become a heartless, so her heart went to Sora. Ventus heart was highly damaged and went to meet Sora's, who had already "fixed" it once... (Doesn't make much sense that The Keyblade to Release/Unlock People's heart's didn't set Ventus's heart free, at least up until now... The only thing I can guess is that Ventus is more connected to Sora, but there's no real explanation) The problem is that te revived Xehanort was Master Xehanort(At least that what everyone in this forum saying)So terra body canno't be longer possesd by xehanort , but terranort was the one who created ansem SOD and Xemnas , but he somehow got back as MX and not as Terranort , so there is must be something that happend . The only thing that make sense is that Xehanort still using terra body but something happend to terra's heart that why the revived xehanort is actually MX and not Terranort(Even if what i suggested is wrong , there must be something that happend) Unless MX is not the revived xehanort like everybody in here say and then let just wait to the official DDD english verison. By the way when I was reffering to Kairi , I meant in hollow bastion when sora's heart became a heartless , and Kairi heart went back to her own.(So i figured there may be something like that that terra heart got out - Cause if MX heart was the one that turned into a nobody and a heartless , where is terra heart?? or maybe their both heart been fused? or maybe terra also have a nobody and heartless? or maybe terra heart stayed in Xemnas-his body , but then the heart got destroyed ..?) I want KH3 to out so badly , but FF production just don't wanna be over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 12, 2012 The problem is that te revived Xehanort was Master Xehanort(At least that what everyone in this forum saying) So terra body canno't be longer possesd by xehanort , but terranort was the one who created ansem SOD and Xemnas , but he somehow got back as MX and not as Terranort , so there is must be something that happend . The only thing that make sense is that Xehanort still using terra body but something happend to terra's heart that why the revived xehanort is actually MX and not Terranort(Even if what i suggested is wrong , there must be something that happend) Unless MX is not the revived xehanort like everybody in here say and then let just wait to the official DDD english verison. The reason that people are saying the old man was the one revived is because of the original fan made subtitles that came out. I have seen other translations that show Young Xehanort telling Riku that Master Xehanort was the oldest version of the Norts, but not necessarily the most present version. There have yet to be any indications that Terra was realeased from at any time. So according to Nomura's rules of revival Terranort will be the one to return, and unless Nomura goes back on this I will go by these rules. By the way when I was reffering to Kairi , I meant in hollow bastion when sora's heart became a heartless , and Kairi heart went back to her own.(So i figured there may be something like that that terra heart got out - Cause if MX heart was the one that turned into a nobody and a heartless , where is terra heart?? or maybe their both heart been fused? or maybe terra also have a nobody and heartless? or maybe terra heart stayed in Xemnas-his body , but then the heart got destroyed ..?) I want KH3 to out so badly , but FF production just don't wanna be over. Once again when Terranort willingly split himself he did so being part Xehanort part Terra. So Xemnas and Ansem are the shared heartless and nobody of Master Xehanort and Terra and therefore is an entirely different scenario from Sora's situation. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiavGever 5 Posted July 12, 2012 The reason that people are saying the old man was the one revived is because of the original fan made subtitles that came out. I have seen other translations that show Young Xehanort telling Riku that Master Xehanort was the oldest version of the Norts, but not necessarily the most present version. There have yet to be any indications that Terra was realeased from at any time. So according to Nomura's rules of revival Terranort will be the one to return, and unless Nomura goes back on this I will go by these rules. Once again when Terranort willingly split himself he did so being part Xehanort part Terra. So Xemnas and Ansem are the shared heartless and nobody of Master Xehanort and Terra and therefore is an entirely different scenario from Sora's situation. Well he did got his memories back (Summoning the Keyblade)But there's gotta be something special he did cause if terranort did back , where is he? I was thinking he can't be in new organization though , BECAUSE: In the end of DDD MX returnd to his own time along with the other xehanorts , but if he was the revived xehanort his time should be now in the present, but he was back in time to his own time so he can't be the revived one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Well he did got his memories back (Summoning the Keyblade) But there's gotta be something special he did cause if terranort did back , where is he? I was thinking he can't be in new organization though , BECAUSE: In the end of DDD MX returnd to his own time along with the other xehanorts , but if he was the revived xehanort his time should be now in the present, but he was back in time to his own time so he can't be the revived one. I don't know what your point with his memories has to do with anything, but Nomura always hinted that apprentice Xehanort was faking his memory loss. Terranort is most likely in the realm of light because thats where all revived beings go. Young Xehanort only gathered them all the remants in the dream world to complete the thirteen darknesses. If I know Xehanort as well as I think I do, the thirteen darknesses will become part of the X-Blade, and then he will use Terranort to weild it. Edited July 12, 2012 by devereauxr 2 kristi-swat and HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kristi-swat 61 Posted July 12, 2012 I don't know what your point with his memories has to do with anything, but Nomura always hinted that apprentice Xehanort was faking his memory loss. Terranort is most likely in the realm of light because thats where all revived beings go. Young Xehanort only gathered them all the remants in the dream world to complete the thirteen darknesses. If I know Xehanort as well as I think I do, the thirteen darknesses will become part of the X-Blade, and then he will use Terranort to weild it. Of course he faked the memory loss...otherwise Xemnas wouldn't have any memory too..neither would Ansed SoD...in KH2FM at the new cutscenes when Xemnas enters at the secret door at the computer lab,he greets Aqua's armor by saying something "hello old friend"..If he had lost his memory he wouldn't remember that the armor is of Aqua Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiavGever 5 Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) I don't know what your point with his memories has to do with anything, but Nomura always hinted that apprentice Xehanort was faking his memory loss. Terranort is most likely in the realm of light because thats where all revived beings go. Young Xehanort only gathered them all the remants in the dream world to complete the thirteen darknesses. If I know Xehanort as well as I think I do, the thirteen darknesses will become part of the X-Blade, and then he will use Terranort to weild it. Cause if he regaind his memories/ faked memories loss , it means there gotta be something special that he didLets say he never regain his memories/really lost them , and then he turned into a heartless/nobody(fell to darkness somehow like isa and lea) like everybody thought before DDD , then the revived xehanort must've terranort cause he know nothing , but when we saw him regaining his memories/understand he fake the memory loss(summoning the keyblade) then we can think on reasons why MX back and Terranort didn't back cause maybe he did something special that terranort without memories cant do cause he doesn't have an idea what he does. Anyway i don't think terranort his back , cause why they can't find him ? I mean MX should know that his present self had revived and he don't care about it? He tried to make sora the 13 member in the new organization instead of finding himself(terranort) I mean if he revived then they gotta find him(Where could he dissapear?) SO IF HE REVIVED they gotta found him(but they didn;t) EDIT:Now when i think about that - There might be a reason why they didn't found him When a nobody return to life as a sombody(Revived) He ends up in his hometown/own world - Like Axel and all the other apperntice(who revived) was radient garden so they woke up as a sombodies in radient garden(LOL ienzo and lea after lea killed him for no reason) Now terranort is basically two persons Master Xehanort Terra MX=Destiny island Terra=Land of departure(Or i don;t know where) So maybe because the fact he has two homoeworld , he ended up in some special world , lost in there? because he has two homeworld , he can't wake up in destiny island cause it isn't terra homeworld and can't be wake up in land of departue cause it isnt MX homeworld So maybe he lost , that why they cant find him? Edited July 12, 2012 by LiavGever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted July 12, 2012 The problem is that te revived Xehanort was Master Xehanort(At least that what everyone in this forum saying) So terra body canno't be longer possesd by xehanort , but terranort was the one who created ansem SOD and Xemnas , but he somehow got back as MX and not as Terranort , so there is must be something that happend . The only thing that make sense is that Xehanort still using terra body but something happend to terra's heart that why the revived xehanort is actually MX and not Terranort(Even if what i suggested is wrong , there must be something that happend) Unless MX is not the revived xehanort like everybody in here say and then let just wait to the official DDD english verison. By the way when I was reffering to Kairi , I meant in hollow bastion when sora's heart became a heartless , and Kairi heart went back to her own.(So i figured there may be something like that that terra heart got out - Cause if MX heart was the one that turned into a nobody and a heartless , where is terra heart?? or maybe their both heart been fused? or maybe terra also have a nobody and heartless? or maybe terra heart stayed in Xemnas-his body , but then the heart got destroyed ..?) I want KH3 to out so badly , but FF production just don't wanna be over. I want KH3 out as well, there's a lot I don't understand... There are Spoilers following... But the thing is, Master Xehanort, the old one, wasn't revived, he just appeared in the Dream World as the wisest of them all, but the present one, and the one that came back was Terranort (probably, because there's a vid he says Terra became his vessel, and can't be one of the Lights...) You are thinking and guessing too much, he would come back anywhere, that doesn't really matter. They didn't find him because it's been that long... The events after KH2 and Coded and 3D happened one after another, Sora and Riku didn't look for their friends (or masters) yet... Also, somebodies don't come back to their homeworld (I don't where did you get that from...) they go to the place they fell to darkness... And Terranort never lost his memory, it was an act, so Ansem would take him to his castle. Finally, Terra isn't reacting (at least they didn't show anymore) because Xehanort locked his heart with his Keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiavGever 5 Posted July 13, 2012 I want KH3 out as well, there's a lot I don't understand... There are Spoilers following... But the thing is, Master Xehanort, the old one, wasn't revived, he just appeared in the Dream World as the wisest of them all, but the present one, and the one that came back was Terranort (probably, because there's a vid he says Terra became his vessel, and can't be one of the Lights...) You are thinking and guessing too much, he would come back anywhere, that doesn't really matter. They didn't find him because it's been that long... The events after KH2 and Coded and 3D happened one after another, Sora and Riku didn't look for their friends (or masters) yet... Also, somebodies don't come back to their homeworld (I don't where did you get that from...) they go to the place they fell to darkness... And Terranort never lost his memory, it was an act, so Ansem would take him to his castle. Finally, Terra isn't reacting (at least they didn't show anymore) because Xehanort locked his heart with his Keyblade. Where did you saw that "Terra isn't reacting (at least they didn't show anymore) because Xehanort locked his heart with his Keyblade."?by saying how he isn't found i don't mean to sora and riku cause they probabaluy won't know him I mean for MX ,Is that possible that he didn't found one of his clones(pratically the Real himself) And he looked sora to be the 13 vessels instead his present himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 13, 2012 Where did you saw that "Terra isn't reacting (at least they didn't show anymore) because Xehanort locked his heart with his Keyblade."? by saying how he isn't found i don't mean to sora and riku cause they probabaluy won't know him I mean for MX ,Is that possible that he didn't found one of his clones(pratically the Real himself) And he looked sora to be the 13 vessels instead his present himself. Just because Terranort was not with the other thirteen does not mean he did return he probably is still in the realm of light. Like I said if anything the 13 darknesses will become part of the X-Blade leaving Terranort to weild it. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Cause if he regaind his memories/ faked memories loss , it means there gotta be something special that he did Lets say he never regain his memories/really lost them , and then he turned into a heartless/nobody(fell to darkness somehow like isa and lea) like everybody thought before DDD , then the revived xehanort must've terranort cause he know nothing , but when we saw him regaining his memories/understand he fake the memory loss(summoning the keyblade) then we can think on reasons why MX back and Terranort didn't back cause maybe he did something special that terranort without memories cant do cause he doesn't have an idea what he does. Anyway i don't think terranort his back , cause why they can't find him ? I mean MX should know that his present self had revived and he don't care about it? He tried to make sora the 13 member in the new organization instead of finding himself(terranort) I mean if he revived then they gotta find him(Where could he dissapear?) SO IF HE REVIVED they gotta found him(but they didn;t) EDIT:Now when i think about that - There might be a reason why they didn't found him When a nobody return to life as a sombody(Revived) He ends up in his hometown/own world - Like Axel and all the other apperntice(who revived) was radient garden so they woke up as a sombodies in radient garden(LOL ienzo and lea after lea killed him for no reason) Now terranort is basically two persons Master Xehanort Terra MX=Destiny island Terra=Land of departure(Or i don;t know where) So maybe because the fact he has two homoeworld , he ended up in some special world , lost in there? because he has two homeworld , he can't wake up in destiny island cause it isn't terra homeworld and can't be wake up in land of departue cause it isnt MX homeworld So maybe he lost , that why they cant find him? Actually, Terranort is 3 people if you include Eraqus. I want KH3 out as well, there's a lot I don't understand... There are Spoilers following... But the thing is, Master Xehanort, the old one, wasn't revived, he just appeared in the Dream World as the wisest of them all, but the present one, and the one that came back was Terranort (probably, because there's a vid he says Terra became his vessel, and can't be one of the Lights...) You are thinking and guessing too much, he would come back anywhere, that doesn't really matter. They didn't find him because it's been that long... The events after KH2 and Coded and 3D happened one after another, Sora and Riku didn't look for their friends (or masters) yet... Also, somebodies don't come back to their homeworld (I don't where did you get that from...) they go to the place they fell to darkness... And Terranort never lost his memory, it was an act, so Ansem would take him to his castle. Finally, Terra isn't reacting (at least they didn't show anymore) because Xehanort locked his heart with his Keyblade. When MX talks about Terra "becoming his vessel", he's only referring to the end of BBS, not necessarily present-day. If anything, I believe that after ASOD and Xemnas were defeated, MX and Terra each returned to their original selves, similar to how Riku was restored after Sora defeated ASOD in KH1. If that's so, then we have one more parallel between Riku and Terra. Edited July 13, 2012 by Alan Smithee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SquareSora 133 Posted July 13, 2012 i would write something very long about this topic so im just not gonna do it but everything up until now is true of what u guys have said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted July 14, 2012 Actually, Terranort is 3 people if you include Eraqus. When MX talks about Terra "becoming his vessel", he's only referring to the end of BBS, not necessarily present-day. If anything, I believe that after ASOD and Xemnas were defeated, MX and Terra each returned to their original selves, similar to how Riku was restored after Sora defeated ASOD in KH1. If that's so, then we have one more parallel between Riku and Terra. I don't think so... Mickey counts 6 Keyblade Wielders, 6 Lights, and concludes one is missing. then Xehanort states that one of them (Terra) became his vessel, so 2 lights are missing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvy 60 Posted July 14, 2012 I thought this thread was going to be about discussing Terra's sexiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted July 14, 2012 I don't think so... Mickey counts 6 Keyblade Wielders, 6 Lights, and concludes one is missing. then Xehanort states that one of them (Terra) became his vessel, so 2 lights are missing. Why would Xehanort want that, anyway? If Terra is a Light, then doesn't Xehanort need for him to be "un-missing" so that the X-Blade can be completed? I don't think Xehanort would be that counterproductive. Then again, the Japanese-to-English translations we've seen so far have been.... sketchy, to say the least. When DDD is finally English-dubbed in a few weeks, we'll know for sure how that "Lights & Darknesses" conversation goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted July 14, 2012 True Story, I guess the only thing we have to do is wait Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esumsoraroxas 48 Posted July 15, 2012 Maybe Sora and Riku can travel back in time or to the Realm of Darkness to save Terra, but that's just my guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiavGever 5 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Actually, Terranort is 3 people if you include Eraqus. When MX talks about Terra "becoming his vessel", he's only referring to the end of BBS, not necessarily present-day. If anything, I believe that after ASOD and Xemnas were defeated, MX and Terra each returned to their original selves, similar to how Riku was restored after Sora defeated ASOD in KH1. If that's so, then we have one more parallel between Riku and Terra. Well eraqus is inside terra , its like they're hearts had merged.Anyway i think you right , how did i never thought of that http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png. Edited July 15, 2012 by LiavGever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 16, 2012 Actually, Terranort is 3 people if you include Eraqus. When MX talks about Terra "becoming his vessel", he's only referring to the end of BBS, not necessarily present-day. If anything, I believe that after ASOD and Xemnas were defeated, MX and Terra each returned to their original selves, similar to how Riku was restored after Sora defeated ASOD in KH1. If that's so, then we have one more parallel between Riku and Terra. But that's not how it works, when a heartless and and a nobody are defeated the original person returns. Terranort is the original person, of Xemnas and Ansem so by Nomura's own rules he is the one who will return. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted July 17, 2012 But that's not how it works, when a heartless and and a nobody are defeated the original person returns. Terranort is the original person, of Xemnas and Ansem so by Nomura's own rules he is the one who will return. Of course, Nomura is the Emperor of the Retcon Dynasty, so.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 17, 2012 Of course, Nomura is the Emperor of the Retcon Dynasty, so.... Yes yes he is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites