*SPOILERS* A new breed of Unversed in Kingdom Hearts III created by MX

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Unversed are those who are not well versed in their own existince. They are the oppostie of humans and created by Vanitas. They are the manefistation of Vanitas' negative emotions. The Unversed had very little explanation in Birth By Sleep. Based on what we know, wouldn't it be possible for someone with pure darkness in their heart and negative emotions like Xehanort to create Unversed?

 

This is what I don't get. Why is Vanitas the only one capable of creating Unversed?

 

My hypothesis is in Kingdom Hearts III, a new breed of Unversed on the same level as Heartless and Nobodies will be created under Xehanort's control. Based on Yen Sid's statement in Dream Drop Distance, Xehanort's revival strengthens the darkness in the worlds. Darkness is part of the Unversed creation. Xehanort feeds off of darkness and practicly IS darkness. And it's not like he has positivle emotions rather then negative so I don't see why not.

 

Vanitas was able to control the Unversed. I forgot how but it had to do with manipulation. Unless they change something about the Unversed in Kingdom Hearts III, Master Xehanort should be able to create a new more stronger breed of them.

Edited June 10, 2012 by Razorwind Keyblade

[Xail 113]

Mx's heart isn't pure darkness and the unversed were a side-effect when vanitas was created. i think they would be useless to MX because when the unversed are killed vanitas experienced huge amounts of pain

Edited June 10, 2012 by Roxas-FTW

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

Vanitas is the only one who can create unversed because he is the negative of Ventus not just because of negative emotions. So no MX could not create Unversed. Also the Unversed are not creatures of pure darkness like the heartless, they are creatures of negativity. In other words The theory is toast.

Edited June 10, 2012 by Elijah Gravenhorst

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Vanitas is the only one who can create unversed because he is the negative of Ventus not just because of negative emotions. So no MX could not create Unversed. Also the Unversed are not creatures of pure darkness like the heartless, they are creatures of negativity. In other words The theory is toast.

 

I never said the were creatures of pure darkness so in other words your attempt at proving me wrong is "toast". The negative thoughts of someone should create a Unversed. Like I said, they need more explaining in Kingdom Hearts III.

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

Darkness is part of the Unversed creation. Xehanort feeds off of darkness and practicly IS darkness. And it's not like he has positivle emotions rather then negative so I don't see why not.

 

 

I don't think you get the whole negative emotions thing. The're NEGATIVE emotions not bad emotions like anger or hate. Unversed are made from ANY emotions that Vanitas has, this includes positive emotions like happiness even though Vanitas doesnt see alot of that. And it's exclusive to vanitas because of his relation to Ventus and the negativity that it created so unless MX decides to split himself in two like Ventus then NO he could not create unversed.

[Wolfgang 735]

The negative thoughts of someone should create a Unversed.

 

Pretty sure the all the worlds would be overrunning with Unversed then.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

 

 

Pretty sure the all the worlds would be overrunning with Unversed then.

 

I said it before and I'll say it again, that's the impression that many people would get after playing Birth By Sleep. What I said may be a little off but the Unversed were explained in one cutscene at the end of BBS by Vanitas. They weren't given much thought.

 

Whether the new breed of Unversed is created by MX or not, they are still going to return. Vanitas has already showed up in DDD. If he's the Anti-Black Coat/Red-Eyed Unknown, I'd like to believe that the new breed would be much, much stronger on the same level as the Heartless and Nobodies.

[EdeaKramer 32]

why would a new breed of unversed need to happen?

there are still heartless and nobodies, pls

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

why would a new breed of unversed need to happen?

there are still heartless and nobodies, pls

 

Well 1, Vanitas is returning and 2, I can't see Nomura keeping the same Unversed and putting them in KH3 so yeah...

[venxas24 544]

I haven't played DDD but how is Vanitas comin back

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

I haven't played DDD but how is Vanitas comin back

 

http://www.khwiki.net/Vanitas

[CardCaptorDeadpool 386]

Jesus Christ you tit I thought we were talking about Kingdom Hearts III enemy speculation based off information based on BBS not DDD because the Unversed do not appear in that. Btw I didn't think this was gonna be a DDD discussion, sorry to junior mod here (but you and your negative nihilism would know a thing or two about that) but isn't that what the DDD thread is for.

 

"But Derp you talk about all previous games in the Future of Kingdom Hearts thread" I don't give two shits what you speculate about as long as you spoiler tag it. DDD only came out 2 months ago just cause you either don't want to get a 3DS or couldn't wait a few shagging months for it doesn't mean I couldn't. Thank fuçk it looks like your spoilers are out of context so it's not the end of the world.

 

Btw on topic your speculation is leaky as fuçk, surely you understand the concept of Vanitas' existence, cause you seem clever but boy are you negative (Christ imagine if you could make Unversed). Vanitas is a unique individual and the Unversed are an unexpected side effect of his existence, it probably is unique to him that the Unversed only come from him cause surely if there were others like him there would've been way more of these creatures elsewhere, but their existence ended with his. I doubt Xeahnort would even want their power anyway cause their creation catalyst is quite cumbersome as opposed to the relative ease of creating Heartless or Nobodies.

 

 

Btw would it kill you to stop being so negative nancy? It's not funny and you're bringing me down can't you be a deadpan snarker like Rob, Christ even Roxas69 is less annoying. I come here for a laff and to chat to Kingdom Hearts fans not for your sour sulking so would you lighten up? Oh and watch the fuçking spoilers

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

I haven't played DDD but how is Vanitas comin back

 

http://www.khwiki.net/Vanitas

 

And keep in mind that Young Xehanort a.k.a. the Mysterious Figure from Birth By Sleep can travel back in time and bring all of Xehanort's counterparts to the present time of Kingdom Hearts.

 

Jesus Christ you tit I thought we were talking about Kingdom Hearts III enemy speculation based off information based on BBS not DDD because the Unversed do not appear in that. Btw I didn't think this was gonna be a DDD discussion, sorry to junior mod here (but you and your negative nihilism would know a thing or two about that) but isn't

that what the DDD thread is for.

 

"But Derp you talk about all previous games in the Future of Kingdom Hearts thread" I don't give two shits what you speculate about as long as you spoiler tag it. DDD only came out 2 months ago just cause you either

don't want to get a 3DS or couldn't wait a few shagging months for it doesn't mean I couldn't. Thank fuçk it looks like your spoilers are out of context so it's not the end of the world.

 

Btw on topic your speculation is leaky as fuçk, surely you understand the concept of Vanitas' existence, cause you seem clever but boy are you negative (Christ imagine if you could make Unversed). Vanitas is a unique

individual and the Unversed are an unexpected side effect of his existence, it probably is unique to him that the Unversed only come from him cause surely if there were others like him there would've been way more of these creatures elsewhere, but their existence ended with his. I doubt Xeahnort

would even want their power anyway cause their creation catalyst is quite cumbersome as opposed to the relative ease of creating Heartless or Nobodies.

 

Btw would it kill you to stop being so negative nancy? It's not funny and you're bringing me down can't you be a deadpan snarker like Rob, Christ even Roxas69 is less annoying. I come here for a laff and to chat to

Kingdom Hearts fans not for your sour sulking so would you lighten up? Oh and watch the fuçking spoilers

 

I didn't come on here to make you laugh and I'm not negative. Whoa, whoa, whoa there, I'm as cool as they come right?

[CardCaptorDeadpool 386]

http://www.khwiki.net/Vanitas

 

And keep in mind that Young Xehanort a.k.a. the Mysterious Figure from Birth By Sleep can travel back in time and bring all of Xehanort's counterparts to the present time of Kingdom Hearts.

 

 

 

I didn't come on here to make you laugh and I'm not negative. Whoa, whoa, whoa there, I'm as cool as they come right?

 

Not as cool as a cucumber...

[Kaneki Ken 1,516]

the only time if unversed should appear in KH3 is if Vanitas is in Organization 12 (one member short). He be able to create a load of unversed. But if he is not in the organization, but in Sora's hearts, then he cant create them unless he takes control of Sora's body, or Vanitas' heart (pure darkness heart) comes out of Sora.

Many may not agree with what im saying, but I thought of the theory above because Ventus lacks darkness in his heart due to having his darkness being extracted from his heart by the MX beach (curse word). when Vanitas was defeated, I think Vanitas' darkness went inside Ven's heart, and is possibly recovering like what Ven's heart was doing for 11 years.

Basically Sora is running a hotel service in his heart. (Roxas, Xion, Ven, and possibly vanitas)

 

Like i said, only time can tell.

 

EDIT: o crap just finished reading Vanitas' article. I feel sorry for him. Vanitas couldnt exist without Ven. Darkness can't exist without light as light cant exist without darkness. So there's a possiblility that Vanitas is in Sora's heart with Ven. Of course explaining Sora's encounter with Vanitas.

Edited June 10, 2012 by Xamtweth-reconnected

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

the only time if unversed should appear in KH3 is if Vanitas is in Organization 12 (one member short). He be able to create a load of unversed. But if he is not in the organization, but in Sora's hearts, then he cant create them unless he

takes control of Sora's body, or Vanitas' heart (pure darkness heart) comes out of Sora.

Many may not agree with what im saying, but I thought of the theory above because Ventus lacks darkness in his heart due to having his darkness being extracted from his heart by the

MX beach (curse word). when Vanitas was defeated, I think Vanitas' darkness went inside Ven's heart, and is possibly recovering like what Ven's heart was doing for 11 years.

Basically Sora is running a hotel service in his heart. (Roxas, Xion, Ven, and possibly vanitas)

 

Like i said, only time can tell.

 

EDIT: o crap just finished reading Vanitas' article. I feel sorry for him. Vanitas couldnt exist without Ven. Darkness can't exist without light as

light cant exist without darkness. So there's a possiblility that Vanitas is in Sora's heart with Ven. Of course explaining Sora's encounter with Vanitas.

 

I take it you haven't completley spoiled yourself. Anyway, Mysterious Figure from BBS a.k.a. Young Xehanort used his time travel to bring back all forms of Xehanort. If this is the case then surely the same has been done for Vanitas.

 

I don't understand what happened in DDD where he made one appearence with MF and did nothing.

[Kaneki Ken 1,516]

Vens heart is reacting to Sora i believe. It said something like that in KHwiki article.

It should support my theory that Ven's heart has vanitas' darkness.

However that's just one piece of evidence. I can't really be sure if my theory is correct. Like I said. KH3 will have all the answers.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Vens heart is reacting to Sora i believe. It said something like that in KHwiki article.

It should support my theory that Ven's heart has vanitas' darkness.

However that's just one piece of evidence. I can't really be sure if my theory is correct. Like I said. KH3 will have all the answers.

 

So you just completley ignored what I said.

[Wuver 920]

Dude. The KHWiki anybody can edit ._.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Dude. The KHWiki anybody can edit ._.

 

So off firetrucking topic... next time I report.

[Wuver 920]

So off firetrucking topic... next time I report.

 

Wow. Whatever.

 

Being on topic, I don't think there will be a new breed of unversed.

[Tom 437]

Unversed are those who are not well versed in their own existince. They are the oppostie of humans and created by Vanitas. They are the manefistation of Vanitas' negative emotions.

 

Oh wow, KH Wiki served you well huh?

 

The Unversed had very little explanation in Birth By Sleep.

 

Not like Vanitas explained it inn Ven's story eh?

 

Based on what we know, wouldn't it be possible for someone with pure darkness in their heart and negative emotions like Xehanort to create Unversed?

 

Right, because we saw Xehanort getting stabbed in the chest, so now we have a good Xehanort running around, and a evil Xehanort creating the plot clusterfiretruck known as Kingdom Hearts.

 

Tell me Razoraboo, did you just buy Birth by Sleep a couple of days ago, barely finished the game, and therefore you're complete Einstein on the game?

 

This is what I don't get. Why is Vanitas the only one capable of creating Unversed?

 

Because he's the only one we've seen so far that's a split of another human being and being the dark side of them, having a heart of pure darkness and having small creatures being created out of his negative emotions? What do you think?

 

My hypothesis is in Kingdom Hearts III, a new breed of Unversed on the same level as Heartless and Nobodies will be created under Xehanort's control.

 

Why? That makes little sense. The Unversed are basically on the same level as them. Why create a new breed? I don't get it Razoraboo, why?

 

Based on Yen Sid's statement in Dream Drop Distance, Xehanort's revival strengthens the darkness in the worlds.

 

Could you please show me the exact video where this was said? I'd like to see

 

Darkness is part of the Unversed creation. Xehanort feeds off of darkness and practicly IS darkness.

 

Not really...I think you're being too literal about this.

 

And oh yeah, Xehanort is practicly darkness? I never would of thought he was ever born with light, just like everyone else (of course without the idea of having your dark side from you, which clearly you failed to even understand that part) http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

 

And it's not like he has positivle emotions rather then negative so I don't see why not.

 

I think I've seen MX smile a couple of times, and has expressed positive emotions. I don't see RAWR RAWR RAWR coming out of his body like it's nothing.

 

Vanitas was able to control the Unversed. I forgot how but it had to do with manipulation. Unless they change something about the Unversed in Kingdom Hearts III, Master Xehanort should be able to create a new more stronger breed of them.

 

He was able to control them because they came out of his own body? I think that would of been logical enough to not explain.

 

You know, I don't see CCD ever come on here, but I do sense a satsifcation from seeing him call you a negative nancy lulz.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

I'd rather not start another argument with you. I already said I was a bit misinformed but you just quoted every single post and acted like I'm making this all up.

[Tom 437]

I'd rather not start another argument with you. I already said I was a bit misinformed but you just quoted every single post and acted like I'm making this all up.

 

Argument? To you it's argument. To me, it's a nice conversation

 

That's a bit of a sad story since you already made everyone else in this thread look like a petty thief.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

 

>Post thread full of non-facts

>Get mad when people use facts to disprove your assumptions

 

There's a site for people like you.

Edited June 10, 2012 by Space Cowboy