Will Maleficent ever outsmart Master Xehanort?

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

 

And they were stupid enough to release it...?

 

No. They released it on purpose to further the Orginization's plans in completing Kingdom Hearts.

[NightfallXIII 68]

No. They released it on purpose to further the Orginization's plans in completing Kingdom Hearts.

 

Not to sound like I'm doubting you or being a jerk, but how does releasing a crow help complete Kingdom Hearts?

[Firaga 5,947]

Doubt it. Lol. She's not worthy of being the head honcho of villians. KH - exclusive characters will always rise above Disney ones. It's jsut how the food chain works int the plot...

 

KH Villians: Top

DIsney Villains: Bottom

 

Simple.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

 

Not to sound like I'm doubting you or being a jerk, but how does releasing a crow help complete Kingdom Hearts?

 

Wow. This is all confirmed information so pay attention more. It was never revealed that the crow Axel and Roxas revealed was Diablo, though it was largley implied. And I don't believe it's that hard ti believe. They released Diablo so he could revive Maleficent, she could continue her plans in destroying all worlds oblivious of the fact that she is once again being used and help to create hordes of Heartless for Sora to slay with the Keyblade, thus creating what is known as "Kingdom Hearts".

 

Really, it's not that hard.

[NightfallXIII 68]

Wow. This is all confirmed information so pay attention more. It was never revealed that the crow Axel and Roxas revealed was Diablo, though it was largley implied. And I don't believe it's that hard ti believe. They released Diablo so he could revive Maleficent, she could continue her plans in destroying all worlds oblivious of the fact that she is once again being used and help to create hordes of Heartless for Sora to slay with the Keyblade, thus creating what is known as "Kingdom Hearts".

 

Really, it's not that hard.

 

Well, sorry. Geez.

[KingdomFan 6]

I think it was discussed in an interview. And Diablo is Maleficent's crow...

 

He's actually a raven.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

 

 

He's actually a raven.

 

He could be a pigeon for all I care.

[lizzie1238 538]

No, Maleficent is too stupid.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

No, Maleficent is too stupid.

 

Really? That's all you say in my thread? Explain your reasons. I will admit that she is stupid and ignorant to not know he's been using her for over 12 years though.

[lizzie1238 538]

 

 

Really? That's all you say in my thread? Explain your reasons. I will admit that she is stupid and ignorant to not know he's been using her for over 12 years though.

 

Exactly.

[Zoro317 111]

You've sprung a lot of Maleficent topics, haven't you? But it's all good. I too wish to know what her next move will be and how it will interfere with Xehanort's ploy.

[Zenithia 305]

tutti frutti. So far in the series, at least from my perspective in the series compared to all forms of Xehanort, there's no way in the world. I say this because Maleficent seems to be the Bowser of the series. She wants revenge without really looking into what she can and can't do on top of the capabilities of her opponents. At least from what I've seen in the trailers of KH3D, the different forms of Xehanort have returned, to who more than likely have a solid idea of what their enemies are capable of. This part is assumption: MX more than likely remembers what happens what happened in BBS, Ansem SoD KH1 events and Xemnas KH2 events. The only way that I could really think that Maleficent would be able to outsmart MX is if she actually took the time from KHBBS to KH3 to look at what she has been up against, what her enemies are capable of, and what they have been up to during that period of time. This would be a good opportunity for her since nobody really seems to be paying any attention to her, outside of her appearing in the Disney Castle in the KH3D trailer and her appearance(s) in the game itself. Unless Maleficent actually did this and had a solid plan, I'm not really holding my breath in the slightest.

[Zola 3,038]

It would be highly Illogical, Captain.

[MAtgS 70]

Outsmart, not really even needed. Just materialize behind him & fire some point-blank Thunder. Especally right after he's had a bossfight with Sora.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

tutti frutti. So far in the series, at least from my perspective in the series compared to all forms of Xehanort, there's no way in the world. I say this because Maleficent seems to be the Bowser of the series. She wants revenge without really

looking into what she can and can't do on top of

the capabilities of her opponents. At least from

what I've seen in the trailers of KH3D, the

different forms of Xehanort have returned, to

who more than likely have a solid idea of what

their enemies are capable of. This part is

assumption: MX more than likely remembers

what happens what happened in BBS, Ansem

SoD KH1 events and Xemnas KH2 events. The

only way that I could really think that Maleficent

would be able to outsmart MX is if she actually

took the time from KHBBS to KH3 to look at

what she has been up against, what her

enemies are capable of, and what they have

been up to during that period of time. This would

be a good opportunity for her since nobody

really seems to be paying any attention to her,

outside of her appearing in the Disney Castle in

the KH3D trailer and her appearance(s) in the

game itself. Unless Maleficent actually did this

and had a solid plan, I'm not really holding my

breath in the slightest.

 

Have you forgotten about the Datascape/Digital Worlds? She would be invincible with it.

[Zola 3,038]

Outsmart, not really even needed. Just materialize behind him & fire some point-blank Thunder. Especally right after he's had a bossfight with Sora.

 

Yeah, and then he'll disappear as Maleficent attacks, rematerialize behind HER, turn her into a Maleficicle, and dump her off a nearby cliff or something. I think she should maybe get some kind of revenge, but in a more indirect way, because a direct attack may not go like she wants it to, Post-Sora battle or not.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

 

Yeah, and then he'll disappear as Maleficent attacks, rematerialize behind HER, turn her into a Maleficicle, and dump her off a nearby cliff or something. I think she should maybe get some kind of revenge, but in a more indirect way, because a direct attack may not go like she wants it to, Post-Sora battle or not.

 

Maleficicle, lol. I don't think a direct attack would work either.

 

Maybe the *couph* Datascape *couph* would easily take care of him.

[Nikolasvanitas 358]

i kinda dont like that in kh2 they turned the disney villains into comic relief characters,i think that their roles were improved in bbs and kh recoded ,

still i would like the disney villains to be more involved to the overal storyline like in kh1 and not just act as the final boss of their world

I would love to see Maleficent ,Pete gathering some new secret villains and planning on a new way to conquer all worlds

Edited June 7, 2012 by Nikolasvanitas

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

i kinda dont like that in kh2 they turned the disney villains into comic relief characters,i think that their roles were improved in bbs and kh recoded ,

still i would like the disney villains to be more

involved to the overal storyline like in kh1 and not just act as the final boss of their world

I would love to see Maleficent ,Pete gathering some new secret villains and planning on a new way to conquer all worlds

 

Mainly BBS. I hope Nomura doesn't waste another oppurtunity in KH3.

[Nikolasvanitas 358]

Mainly BBS. I hope Nomura doesn't waste another oppurtunity in KH3.

 

yeah i agree with you

[Zenithia 305]

Have you forgotten about the Datascape/Digital Worlds? She would be invincible with it.

 

tutti frutti. I kind of did mostly because I'm among those that didn't care for Re:Coded. But I would think that it would be hard to guess what she would be capable of. Data itself can be destroyed rather easily in my opinion. DiZ had control over the virtual reality that Roxas was placed in. And Mickey was able to create another Sora in order to learn more about the messages in Jiminy's jounal. Plus, Maleficent was able to destroy a digital Keyblade. To me, it would seem like that there would be a whole lot more possibilities with less effort. And at the same time, from what I remember, besides sending a message I didn't really see how the Datascape effected the real world outside of locking Mickey, Donald, and Goofy in the that one room.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

 

 

tutti frutti. I kind of did mostly because I'm among those that didn't care for Re:Coded. But I would think that it would be hard to guess what she

would be capable of. Data itself can be

destroyed rather easily in my opinion. DiZ had

control over the virtual reality that Roxas was

placed in. And Mickey was able to create

another Sora in order to learn more about the

messages in Jiminy's jounal. Plus, Maleficent

was able to destroy a digital Keyblade. To me, it

would seem like that there would be a whole lot

more possibilities with less effort. And at the

same time, from what I remember, besides

sending a message I didn't really see how the Datascape effected the real world outside of

locking Mickey, Donald, and Goofy in the that

one room.

 

Maleficent has obviously considered all her options.

 

What I believe she can do is:

 

Bring her army of Heartless back to life and I crease it tenfold.

 

Replace all the real worlds with data or make 2 versions of one world (like Twigh Town and Trav Town).

 

Create data versions of the princesses of heart.

 

She can do a lot with the Datascape, that's why she wants it.

[deathrebirthsenshi 279]

Maleficent has obviously considered all her options.

 

What I believe she can do is:

 

Bring her army of Heartless back to life and I crease it tenfold.

 

Replace all the real worlds with data or make 2 versions of one world (like Twigh Town and Trav Town).

 

Create data versions of the princesses of heart.

 

She can do a lot with the Datascape, that's why she wants it.

 

I was also just replaying KH:recoded and totally forgot about the scary controlling Sora's Heartless...which the data Sora couldn't actually defeat. It apparently fed on the hearts/minds of all heartless destroyed in the datascape, and it wanted out to get a taste of real hearts. I think Maleficent might use this to someone's advantage...

 

And also, I think there is more to the extra cutscenes--memories deep inside the journal? Memories of times where the journal wasn't even there? Memories that seem to be connected to Sora's heart...?

Namine apparently did more than just wipe the journal clean and write a mysterious message, lol. The journal may even be connected to Sora's heart (Somebodies, nobodies, replicas... THERE'S A JOURNAL IN HERE!?), which Maleficent may also use...

 

And Also, Maleficent has power over sleep. Just dropping that in there. lol.

[venxas24 544]

It took her 10 years to find 7 princesses but MX could've done it faster and he also figured out how to cheat death and came up with a really good plan on how to get the x-blade

[Zenithia 305]

Maleficent has obviously considered all her options. What I believe she can do is:

Bring her army of Heartless back to life and I crease it tenfold.

Replace all the real worlds with data or make 2 versions of one world (like Twigh Town and Trav Town).

Create data versions of the princesses of heart.

She can do a lot with the Datascape, that's why she wants it.

 

tutti frutti. At the same time you have to really consider that the datascape is still limited, in a sense. Much like computers themselves, I would still imagine that the datascape would have a limited amount of space, especially since we don't know if it can be connected in a similar manner that the internet is connected in reality. So we can't really say if they have that ability to travel from one computer to another or if they are limited to just Mickey's computer. Plus, we don't know how well the datascape will effect the real world in the KH universe. If I remember right, there was a high probability that Maleficent and Pete could have lost their lives, if not be stuck there for good in the datascape. To me, I find that even though there is a high probability to do what you want in there, I kind of find it pointless if it doesn't really help in the real world. Also, the datascape could have also have been limited to Jiminy's journal since that was among the main focuses of the Re:Coded.