KH2 Xemnas (just in case *SPOILERS* if u havent played past KH2)

[DarkRebellionX 7]

Ok so you how in KH2 Riku states that Roxas can use the keyblade because he is Sora's nobody? Wouldn't that also mean that Xemnas should also be able to weild the keyblade due to him being Master Xehanort's nobody?

[Wolfgang 735]

Why do i feel this is gonna turn into KH3d discussion..

 

*runs*

Edited May 31, 2012 by Wolfgang

[Xenidal 36]

I never played Birth by Sleep so I could be completely off... but wasn't Xemnas Xehanort's Nobody (just plain Xehanort, not Master Xehanort... as in, two separate people)?

As far as I know Xehanort did not use a Keyblade. At least there was no indication of it in any game that I've played (which is all of them except Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance)

Edited May 31, 2012 by Xenidal

[Sibyl 32]

:I terranort lost all memorie of being able to use a keyblade, so no, xemnas is TERRANORTS nobody, not master xehanort

[DarkRebellionX 7]

Well even if he has no memory of being able to use a keyblade, wouldnt he still have the ability to use it, if say he ever ended up remembering using it before? Cuz technically Terranort and Master Xehanort are still the same person, he's just in a new body. I know he hasnt used a keyblade obviously just a hypethetical question really. But i also do remember a clip that was part of a trailer of some sort for KH3D when it showed Xehanort summoning his keyblade, so thats bascially where this is comin from http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

[Xenidal 36]

Even if he could use a Keyblade, I doubt he'd be out killing Heartless and releasing Hearts in order to complete Kingdom Hearts any more quickly. This was mentioned in Beast's Castle in 358 Days / 2... Xemnas treats the rest of the Organisation as his servants and makes them carry out orders while he does not actually help them or share the workload as well.

The only fighting that we've ever seen from him was the final battle of KH2... and (assuming he could have used a Keyblade) perhaps he chose to use the Aethereal Blades instead... especially since at that point using a Keyblade would have been unnecessary (he wasn't attempting to release any hearts...)

Edited May 31, 2012 by Xenidal

[animemylove 439]

I think having a heart is one of the requirements to get the keyblade, so that could be the reason why he can't use one but Roxas can, but I could be wrong.

[nic2134 54]

Ok so you how in KH2 Riku states that Roxas can use the keyblade because he is Sora's nobody? Wouldn't that also mean that Xemnas should also be able to weild the keyblade due to him being Master Xehanort's nobody?

 

I think if you think about it Xemnas may be a special case. This is someone whos heart has been split into many directions, think about it, he split his heart into Braig and Terra in birth by sleep. Terranort than split his heart once again after being defeated by Master Aqua. Then the heart was split once more, creating the heartless and nobody Ansem SoD and Xemnas, not to mention the other Xehanort has planted his heart within as vessels.

I think this is the reason that Xemnas cannot use the Keyblade and yet his weapons are called the Etherial Blades, I believe that these blades are mearly the ghosts of Terra and Xehanorts keyblades that cannot be completely summoned to to the multifractured heart he must have.

 

(SPOILERS KH3D)

 

Also it is learned that a Nobody may indeed create a heart of there own, which is why Roxas could wield the Keyblade. So in the future if Xemnas does create a heart of his own he may in fact be able to weild a keyblade once more!

[Xenidal 36]

If he had a keyblade he could also used it to release the hearts of man, making there goals reachable faster, and they wouldnt have had to rely on the unrelyable Roxas

 

Except he never showed any signs of ever actually doing anything himself. It's not that he was "lazy"... but more like, if he could get other people to do his work for him then he didn't bother doing it himself (the example from 358 Days / 2 was that when Beast's Castle was under attack then the Beast was ready to defend it rather than forcing his servants to do it alone, but Roxas commented that if Xemnas had been in the same position then he would not have personally defended it but would have instead made the other Organisation members do the work for him).

So Xemnas just ordered Roxas destroy the Heartless, and Roxas was cooperative most of the time. Then he replicated Roxas to get it done even faster, but Xion was a failure and not really able to speed things up. Even after he lost control of Roxas and Xion, he still had Sora who was able to do the work for him (and Mickey and RIku no-doubt contributed as well).

I think the only way that he would have personally went around releasing Hearts would have been if no other Keyblade user had continued. But as long as the Keyblade users continued to destroy the Heartless the he really had no reason to get involved (other than maybe to speed things up a little, but that didn't seem to be his priority).

Edited May 31, 2012 by Xenidal

[nic2134 54]

Except he never showed any signs of ever actually doing anything himself. It's not that he was "lazy"... but more like, if he could get other people to do his work for him then he didn't bother doing it himself (the example from 358 Days / 2 was that when Beast's Castle was under attack then the Beast was ready to defend it rather than forcing his servants to do it alone, but Roxas commented that if Xemnas had been in the same position then he would not have personally defended it but would have instead made the other Organisation members do the work for him).

So Xemnas just ordered Roxas destroy the Heartless, and Roxas was cooperative most of the time. Then he replicated Roxas to get it done even faster, but Xion was a failure and not really able to speed things up. Even after he lost control of Roxas and Xion, he still had Sora who was able to do the work for him (and Mickey and RIku no-doubt contributed as well).

I think the only way that he would have personally went around releasing Hearts would have been if no other Keyblade user had continued. But as long as the Keyblade users continued to destroy the Heartless the he really had no reason to get involved (other than maybe to speed things up a little, but that didn't seem to be his priority).

 

Just because we havnt seen what Xemnas has been up to, dont asume that it means he is doing nothing. He is goal driven and goal orientend and I am sure has intentions and goals and plans of his own. I am sure he has his hands full and that if he could use the most powerful weapon of all the keyblade to atain his goals faster I bet you anything he would do it.

[Remains of Old 117]

SPOILERS ABOUT 3D:

 

Don't the beginning of 3D shows the pov of Xehanort, and he summons his keyblade?

So yeah, before Xemnas existed, Xehanort did summoned his keyblade after losing his memories, so Xemnas would be able to summon it too. Didn't Nomura said something about Xemnas actually being able to summon it, but that he didn't knew how to do it?

[Kinode 3,056]

He pretended he couldn't, or perhaps according to Riku in DDD,

"You lost your Heart to Darkness, and thus lost the ability to wield a Keyblade."(To Ansem SoD, so that might only have applied to him)

Either way, it was also necessary in order to convince the members of DDD SPOILERS

[Novarin 2]

I think he can, but he either chose not to or couldn't remember how. Or maybe the ethreal blades are keyblades in disguise. :blink:

[NamineRose 28]

I think it was because after he lost his memories he kinda lost the keyblade for a time at least. But Roxas's keyblade has been stated to be Ven's so maybe if in some existence the Somebody can still use the keyblade then maybe the Nobody can't.