KH3D (Spoiler)Something crazy

[Valerio GigaGnabbò Gigante 4]

So in this video:

 

http://kh13.com/videos/3d/jap-cut/73-i-always-get-stuck-with-the-icky-jobs/

 

 

we see the rebirth of old Organization XIII. Dear Nomura, you could get at least two non-sense things in one cutscene! First one; why if they were dead at different times, they are reborn at the same one? Come on, Zexion/Ienzo was dead at least one year before Axel/Lea. I don't get it why this

The second one; Axel made Riku's Replica kill Zexion and after all this cruel way to die...Axel and Zexion speaking as good friend? Have you forgot, Nomura, Chain of Memories?

 

In other video:

 

http://kh13.com/videos/3d/jap-cut/107-transferring-the-worlds-data/

 

Oh yeah cool, Lea is back..BUT WHY HE USES DARKNESS PORTAL? Nomura, did you forget that you must be a darkness creature tu use those? But that's not possibile, Lea get a keyblade the same day!

 

Ah, i hate also the fact that now Codec is important for the plot, i hate that.

[atheist123 583]

Lol . . .anyone can use a darkness portal: its just not advisable to. Riku lost his ability to summon them when he was exposed to the light released from the KH decoder not because he wasn't "dark" anymore while Lea is still someone of darkness (he hasn't repented for the bad stuff he did as Axel) who hasn't been exposed to anything as strange as a KH decoder.

 

Their revival is probably linked to Young Xehanort in some way (or their heartless weren't defeated yet?). Some of the org. members weren't in KH3D so maybe Marluxia, Larxene etc were revived earlier . . .just the ones that we did see in KH3D that weren't revived until later due to not having heartless defeated yet.

 

I don't know what is canon in CoM . . .does Axel confront Zexion about it before Repliku kills him? idk. Maybe Zexion has forgiven Axel . . . at any rate the character of Axel shown in CoM is very different to his other representations so this particular thing probably isn't considered canon. But yeah, good point! Just go with it; its easier that way

[KingdomKatherine 272]

*swoons*

Ahhh... Axel... or Lea...

[Kinode 3,056]

So in this video:

 

http://kh13.com/vide...-the-icky-jobs/

 

 

we see the rebirth of old Organization XIII. Dear Nomura, you could get at least two non-sense things in one cutscene! First one; why if they were dead at different times, they are reborn at the same one? Come on, Zexion/Ienzo was dead at least one year before Axel/Lea. I don't get it why this

They were all killed the same day, by Xehanort. If you mean Zexion's death as a Nobody, that's a different story. Remember, Their HEARTLESS might have been killed around the same time. And a Nobody won't go back to human as soon as a heartless and a nobody are born, there'sa time gap before they fully materialize.

The second one; Axel made Riku's Replica kill Zexion and after all this cruel way to die...Axel and Zexion speaking as good friend? Have you forgot, Nomura, Chain of Memories?

Because thanks to Axel they were revived?

 

In other video:

 

http://kh13.com/vide...he-worlds-data/

 

Oh yeah cool, Lea is back..BUT WHY HE USES DARKNESS PORTAL? Nomura, did you forget that you must be a darkness creature tu use those? But that's not possibile, Lea get a keyblade the same day!

Because he still has the powers of a Nobody. He knew it was risky, but he had to use the portal one last time, in order to get to Disney Castle and talk to King Mickey about getting a Keyblade, in order to save Roxas. After talking to Yen Sid, he was sent to a place where the fairies and wizard(Three faeries and Merlin) manipulated time. So in reality, he spent much longer training then we think.

Ah, i hate also the fact that now Codec is important for the plot, i hate that.

Stop complaining and accept that all the games are important u_u

 

Lol . . .anyone can use a darkness portal: its just not advisable to. Riku lost his ability to summon them when he was exposed to the light released from the KH decoder not because he wasn't "dark" anymore while Lea is still someone of darkness (he hasn't repented for the bad stuff he did as Axel) who hasn't been exposed to anything as strange as a KH decoder.

 

Their revival is probably linked to Young Xehanort in some way (or their heartless weren't defeated yet?). Some of the org. members weren't in KH3D so maybe Marluxia, Larxene etc were revived earlier . . .just the ones that we did see in KH3D that weren't revived until later due to not having heartless defeated yet.

 

I don't know what is canon in CoM . . .does Axel confront Zexion about it before Repliku kills him? idk. Maybe Zexion has forgiven Axel . . . at any rate the character of Axel shown in CoM is very different to his other representations so this particular thing probably isn't considered canon. But yeah, good point! Just go with it; its easier that way

 

About this, you're wrong. Everything in Re: CoM is considered canon, what isn't canon is the Manga and perhaps a couple of parts in the GBA version. Therefore, Axel convinced Riku Repica that he had to kill Zexion so that he didn't spread what he knew.

[Waller-pearson 60]

About this, you're wrong. Everything in Re: CoM is considered canon, what isn't canon is the Manga and perhaps a couple of parts in the GBA version. Therefore, Axel convinced Riku Repica that he had to kill Zexion so that he didn't spread what he knew.

 

canon means part of the plot, right???

[Kinode 3,056]

canon means part of the plot, right???

 

Short for "canonical": It means official, confirmed.

Therefore, an official part of the plot.

[Valerio GigaGnabbò Gigante 4]

I meant this:

 

 

Axel made Riku's replica kill Zexion (and Zexion wasn't neither a betrayer of Organization XIII but a founding Member).

 

Well, let's go one point by one.

1- Rebirth of Organization: the fact that their Heartless could have been killed during the same time might be a good point. But it stilly is a twisting thing.

2- Axel did nothing to make them revive, if there is someone to be thankful for Organization XIII this is Sora for sure (or Riku) who "kill" them.

3- Zexion must be angry against Axel, it's not possibile for him to not to be.

4- All that is in the game is canon, so even Zexion's death. To covering Nomura's plothole (THERE ARE A LOTS) he cannot decide who is canon or not, if it's already in the game. It's not fair for the player.

[Akihiko 1,628]

Anyone that uses the darkness can use the portal.

 

Ienzo should be glad Axel killed his nobody. He's a somebody because of him.

 

The revival only happens when both Heartless and Nobody are defeated. So that means they woke up first beause their heartless were defeated first.

 

Lea trained in a space where time flows differently with Merlin and the three fairies, so he had aneough time to acquire one, and he couldn't summon it until that part of the ending. He said it himself.

Edited May 27, 2012 by Golden Ultima

[Valerio GigaGnabbò Gigante 4]

If that is right, why Organization XIII simply kill each other?

[Waller-pearson 60]

Short for "canonical": It means official, confirmed.

Therefore, an official part of the plot.

 

you, sir, are quite helpful

[Kinode 3,056]

If that is right, why Organization XIII simply kill each other?

 

Because Xemnas lied to them, and told them the only way to become humans again would be completing Kingdom Hearts.

That was all part of his plan to use Kingdom Hearts as an intermediary to transform all the Nobodies into Xehanort Vessels.

Edited May 27, 2012 by Kinode

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Anyone that uses the darkness can use the portal.

 

Ienzo should be glad Axel killed his nobody. He's a somebody because of him.

 

The revival only happens when both Heartless and Nobody are defeated. So that means they woke up first beause their heartless were defeated first.

 

Lea trained in a space where time flows differently with Merlin and the three fairies, so he had aneough time to acquire one, and he couldn't summon it until that part of the ending. He said it himself.

 

This ... and i would like to point out something else . For a large amount of time , as Xemnas was building his fake kingdom hearts , all the hearts of slain heartless were captured and sent to the fake KH... So they werent free to unite with the Nobodies after they were defeated till the fake KH was destroyed , freeing all those hearts AT THE SAME TIME . Which is how they ended up reviving at the same time despite their nobodies dying at different times.

[replika13 455]

If that is right, why Organization XIII simply kill each other?

 

Because Xemnas needed them to cultivate secretly new hearts and then split MXs heart into them, making 13 vessels of darkness

[Valerio GigaGnabbò Gigante 4]

Yes, Xemnas lied to them but when Ienzo woke up in Radiant Garden he didn't know that!

Edited May 27, 2012 by Valerio GigaGnabbò Gigante

[Bosh104 51]

So in this video:

 

http://kh13.com/vide...-the-icky-jobs/

 

 

we see the rebirth of old Organization XIII. Dear Nomura, you could get at least two non-sense things in one cutscene! First one; why if they were dead at different times, they are reborn at the same one? Come on, Zexion/Ienzo was dead at least one year before Axel/Lea. I don't get it why this

The second one; Axel made Riku's Replica kill Zexion and after all this cruel way to die...Axel and Zexion speaking as good friend? Have you forgot, Nomura, Chain of Memories?

 

In other video:

 

http://kh13.com/vide...he-worlds-data/

 

Oh yeah cool, Lea is back..BUT WHY HE USES DARKNESS PORTAL? Nomura, did you forget that you must be a darkness creature tu use those? But that's not possibile, Lea get a keyblade the same day!

 

Ah, i hate also the fact that now Codec is important for the plot, i hate that.

 

I think CoM is very important to the plot, but... Coded? How is Coded important...

[G-SANtos 105]

Ah, i hate also the fact that now Codec is important for the plot, i hate that.

 

EVERY game is important to the plot, even coded. There are some games that are less crucial than others, but none of them is irrelevant the exception of V-CAST (non-canon) and Mobile (no plot or development to the story). Don't forget that the main reason for KH3D is connecting all the previous games and setting the plot for KHIII.

 

 

I think CoM is very important to the plot, but... Coded? How is Coded important...

 

I don't know the details, but Maleficent mentioned the data worlds and wanted them for some reason. Maybe revenge. I'll find out once I have the chance to play it.