Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 7, 2012 Just to clarify the 7 "Lights" are the Princesses themselves. What you're referring are the Protectors of Light Anyway, it won't just be 7 vs 13. The Princesses hearts are the light fragments of the x-Blade so they will be involved in the final battle. We've seen that they have support abilities (like when they upgraded Sora's Fira spell to Firaga in KH1) and are able to hold back darkness for a while. And 2 of them have been D-links. As D-Links work by borrowing some of the power from the one you're linking with, it can be assumed that they have powerful magic abilities of their own And Kairi can use the Keyblade so it's possible that the Princesses may fight making it 13 vs 13, assuming that Kairi is a Protector as well as a Princess. Or 14 vs 13 if, as I suspect, Roxas is the 7th You're theory does have some credit though. I've never thought about it like that, as the originals, their successors and the link between them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted July 7, 2012 Wow you wrote a lot of stuff, but it's very interesting and cool! I don't know if someone thought about it, but like: 7 Princess + 7 Protectors = 14, but Kairi is both Princess and Protector, so 13! That would be 13 against 13 but wouldn't be fair anyway, 6 of them are kinda useless... Also, I think Lea was corrupted, but I also hope I'm wrong (somebody wrote the same thing I did a month ago) What I'm really hoping is that the 7 Protectors are either the ones that appeared in the 3D Opening (Sora, Riku, Mickey, Roxas, Aqua, Terra and Ven) or all the Keyblade Wielders we know so far (Sora's Trio, Roxas's Trio, Ven's Trio, Mickey or even Eraqus, and more people I'm not sure, but it would have to be 13) And personally, we had enough games already... They should make KH3 as soon as possible, no Kairi's Story or King Mickey's, or Aqua's... But if Versus doesn't get finished any time soon, i wouldn't matter to have a BbS Volume 2(BbS2 forms a heart LOL) I'm dying to know what happens to everyone! "Everyone is ready for the battle at the Keyblade Graveyard: Sora says: -You know something, Xehanort? It's not fair 7 against 13! It should be an equal number of people! Xehanort: -Did you believe that? It was just a trick so Darkness would win! -NO!!! That's not fair!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted July 7, 2012 I forgot to say this but... Possible Spoilers? The whole post was a huge spoiler! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allpro11414 71 Posted July 7, 2012 Wow you said alot of interesting stuff I agree with the whole 13 vs 13 thing with Kairi being both as I suspect, Roxas is the 7th I hate to say it but in my opinion I just dont see Roxas making a physical comeback, think about it Nomura stated that Roxas was a special nobody because he held Ventus' heart so if they bring Ventus back Roxas would then just be an ordinary nobody which would mean that for him to be created again Sora would have to become a heartless again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 8, 2012 Not necessarily. Namine was created when Kairi's heart left Sora's body, so Roxas could be re-created when Ven's heart leaves Sora. Besides Sora wants Roxas to be his own person, and Sora always gets his way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allpro11414 71 Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Not necessarily. Namine was created when Kairi's heart left Sora's body, so Roxas could be re-created when Ven's heart leaves Sora. Besides Sora wants Roxas to be his own person, and Sora always gets his way. Oh yea thats true I know what I said but I wouldnt really mind if he comes back as long as they can explain it cuz Roxas is one of my favorite keyblade wielders behind Riku and tied with Terra Edited July 8, 2012 by Allpro11414 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxas_Wagner 174 Posted July 8, 2012 Too much to read But it was a good theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted July 9, 2012 Oh yea thats true I know what I said but I wouldnt really mind if he comes back as long as they can explain it cuz Roxas is one of my favorite keyblade wielders behind Riku and tied with Terra Well, seeing as Nobodies grow hearts now, it shouldn't be too hard to bring him back...put some things in about how Roxas had no memories, and so the heart he grew was original and his, yet he was still connected to Sora...it could happen. It would be a little obnoxious to have Roxas and Ven though. But apparently, since Xemnas is unique enough to come back and be one of the thirteen darknesses, I don't see why Roxas can't be a light I mean Xehanort is almost cheating using his heartless and his nobody. 1 VoidXName reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 9, 2012 The first heart fragment implanted in Lea didnt work when he didnt even have a heart . I doubt it will work the second time ( and thats IF he wasnt able to block it and thats a BIG if ) . Especially since he did indeed block it with chackrams and fire...Plus it seems to appear that a certain level of darkness is needed to actually make a successful vessel which is why so many original Org members were failed vessels. This Lea would more likely be a gaurdian of light rather then kiari imo. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted July 9, 2012 and thats IF he wasnt able to block it and thats a BIG if Terra could take a few lessons from Lea...lol 1 Allpro11414 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VoidXName 346 Posted July 9, 2012 Well, seeing as Nobodies grow hearts now, it shouldn't be too hard to bring him back...put some things in about how Roxas had no memories, and so the heart he grew was original and his, yet he was still connected to Sora...it could happen. It would be a little obnoxious to have Roxas and Ven though. But apparently, since Xemnas is unique enough to come back and be one of the thirteen darknesses, I don't see why Roxas can't be a light I mean Xehanort is almost cheating using his heartless and his nobody. Exactly, I'm betting that there's a very good chance that Roxas is coming back. The ending of DDD when Sora and Roxas talk to each other really made me think that Sora might release Roxas's heart when he releases Ven's. The problem is, Roxas doesn't have a body anymore, his body became Sora. But if a Body can grow a Heart, maybe a Heart can grow a Body. So that's really the only thing I can see that would keep Roxas from coming back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) Terra could take a few lessons from Lea...lol That and Terra had too much darkness which seems to be a big thing with making a successful vessel ...Dem chackrams are badass;) This Lea would more likely be a gaurdian of light rather then kiari imo. Im unsure on Kairi not being one ..Theres a good chance of her and Lea both being one , Edited July 9, 2012 by Flaming Lea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 9, 2012 Exactly, I'm betting that there's a very good chance that Roxas is coming back. The ending of DDD when Sora and Roxas talk to each other really made me think that Sora might release Roxas's heart when he releases Ven's. The problem is, Roxas doesn't have a body anymore, his body became Sora. But if a Body can grow a Heart, maybe a Heart can grow a Body. So that's really the only thing I can see that would keep Roxas from coming back. We don't know if Roxas grew his own heart yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VoidXName 346 Posted July 9, 2012 We don't know if Roxas grew his own heart yet. Oh, sorry, I didn't make that too clear. Of course I know it hasn't been said whether or not he has a heart, I was talking about what would happen IF he had a heart. I just didn't clarify that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) My concern with Roxas being made his own person is : Isnt he basicly half of Soras power? So even if he was seperated with his own heart both Sora and him would each be half powered technically.Or does having a seperate heart change that ? Edited July 9, 2012 by Flaming Lea 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) We don't know if Roxas grew his own heart yet. Well...that's true. It could have just been Ven's, as we've theorized. I don't know about the Sora-Ventus-Roxas thing, as all their personalities are pretty similar...I rememebr Nomura sayinghe distinctly made Namine, Kairi, and Xion's personalities different despite looking alike, so who knows I find it funny that at first, they made it seem like it was okay for them to go back, and now they are building all of this sympathy for them... My concern with Roxas being made his own person is : Isnt he basicly half of Soras power? So even if he was seperated with his own heart both Sora and him would each be half powered technically.Or does having a seperate heart change that ? Yeah, I assumed they'd have to figure some way to make Roxas completely whole or something before he could come back. Roxas may have his own heart, but at the moment, he is definately Sora's Nobody and half of his power. They can't really coexist...hm...I wonder what Ansem's data has to say about this... Edited July 9, 2012 by deathrebirthsenshi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 9, 2012 Well...that's true. It could have just been Ven's, as we've theorized. I don't know about the Sora-Ventus-Roxas thing, as all their personalities are pretty similar...I rememebr Nomura sayinghe distinctly made Namine, Kairi, and Xion's personalities different despite looking alike, so who knows I find it funny that at first, they made it seem like it was okay for them to go back, and now they are building all of this sympathy for them... Yeah, I assumed they'd have to figure some way to make Roxas completely whole or something before he could come back. Roxas may have his own heart, but at the moment, he is definately Sora's Nobody and half of his power. They can't really coexist...hm...I wonder what Ansem's data has to say about this... Nomura has confirmed that Roxas has Ven's heart. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VoidXName 346 Posted July 9, 2012 My concern with Roxas being made his own person is : Isnt he basicly half of Soras power? So even if he was seperated with his own heart both Sora and him would each be half powered technically.Or does having a seperate heart change that ? I was actually thinking about that myself. I don't think that them both having their own hearts will change anything, because they're going to be two separate hearts, but they'll probably still have the "Sora connection". But what I was thinking was that if Roxas were to become his own person, would he try to take Sora's body again (lol)? Or will Roxas create his own body similar to sora in CoM? Maybe YenSid has a stock of young boy's bodies laying in his tower? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 9, 2012 Nomura has confirmed that Roxas has Ven's heart. True story 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 9, 2012 True story yeppers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VoidXName 346 Posted July 9, 2012 Nomura has confirmed that Roxas has Ven's heart. Proof or didn't happen! Jk jk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted July 9, 2012 True story ...Nomura...confirmed something!? O_O I was actually thinking about that myself. I don't think that them both having their own hearts will change anything, because they're going to be two separate hearts, but they'll probably still have the "Sora connection". But what I was thinking was that if Roxas were to become his own person, would he try to take Sora's body again (lol)? Or will Roxas create his own body similar to sora in CoM? Maybe YenSid has a stock of young boy's bodies laying in his tower? I'm starting to wonder just how important bodies are. I mean, if you think about it, Vanitas shouldn't have had a body when he was taken from Ventus, but he did. And Namine came into existance and apparently just made a new body. And Sora was made a new body by Kairi...so really, the issue is more about sharing hearts than bodies You never know when little boy bodies might come in handy...lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 9, 2012 Proof or didn't happen! Jk jk Do you really want to start ryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VoidXName 346 Posted July 9, 2012 Do you really want to start ryan Me? Start anything? What?!!! No! lmao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 9, 2012 ...Nomura...confirmed something!? O_O I'm starting to wonder just how important bodies are. I mean, if you think about it, Vanitas shouldn't have had a body when he was taken from Ventus, but he did. And Namine came into existance and apparently just made a new body. And Sora was made a new body by Kairi...so really, the issue is more about sharing hearts than bodies You never know when little boy bodies might come in handy...lol They made such a big deal about Roxas containing half Soras power and that he just HAD to go back , yanno? Also I couldnt resist ..Nomuras words : Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike? A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus. Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297? A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint. Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. 2 Robbie the Wise and VoidXName reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites