KH3D I have few questions

[LiavGever 5]

i knew i wrote a lot but you gotta read the most to understand what i am talking about.

We all know that the new org members that confirmed is

Master Xehanort

Young Xehanort(which contains vanitas in him?)

Xemnas

Ansem Seeker of Darkness

Xigbar/Braig

Saix/Isa

 

What about Terranort , I mean Ansem SOD his heartless and Xemnas Are his nobody

So when yen sid told mickey(Secret ending of re;coded) that sora defeated Ansem and then Xemnas so now master xehanort should return, but actually he meant that terranort should return , cause they are both from him.

 

So if terranort return(IT HAD TO BE) how xehanort(master xehanort)returned too ?

isn't his heart should be in terranort?

and if xemnas and ansem returned(YMX brought them) so how MX or terranort can exist with them i mean their holding is body/soul and heart.

 

So can terranort and Xehanort can be exsist togheter? I mean terranort is have to return they deafeted is heartless and nobody.

 

So we all know that Ansem SOD and Xemnas deafeated - terranort come back

But then we being told that YMX brought Xemnas and Ansem back in time

that means that if they brought back after they defeated that cant be happen because they already dead,

so YMX brought them back before they was deafeted , but then it will change the past order , cause sora never deafeated them if YMX took them , so then terranort shouldn't return.

 

and so how is xehanort can return back to his orginial form ?

I mean YMX brought Xehanort also back in time(becuase xemnas and ansem when they were defeated brought back Terranort not xehanort becuase they are terranort nobody and heartless)

So its must have been that xehanort was back in time too , but YMX took xehanort back in time , he couldnt be doing it after MX force his heart into terra body because after he did that xehanort body had destroyed , and xehanort was basically terra .

terranort is more like Xehanort heart inside terra body , when terra heart is in the lingering will.

Anyway then YMX should have taken MX before he force his heart into terra body , but then again it wasn't make sense

because lets say that whats happend

 

YMX took xehanort from the past , before he forced his heart on terra's body , so then Terranort is never created , and if terranort never created means ansem and xemnas never created too becuase terranort(Their sombody) is basically never exsisted, so they can't exsist too(Xemnas not seem to exsist anyway because of him "being" nobody) so if they don't exsist mean all KH 1 /KH COM /KH 2 / DAYS / RE CODED and all the other game(Expect BBS) never happend.

Sora never became hero , there wasn't any heartless, riku didnt succumb to darkness , ansem sod didn't destroy any world . there wasn't any organizatio xii etc, so all of that leads me to the final question

 

Is YMX can take vessels for xehanort/take people/do his missions in the past , without changing the past order ? cause i just told you what wouldv'e happened if he took xehanort , or if he took xemnas/ansem - whatever, it doesnt make sense.

and where the firetruck is terranort? if xemnas and ansem defeated - terranort should come back , WHERE IS HE? how they brought xehanort(before the merge with terra i guess) without changing the whole storyline.?

Edited May 21, 2012 by LiavGever

[Skai 3,961]

Let's just say.....

Yes.

Edited May 21, 2012 by Sky Heart

[keyblademaster29 35]

My eyes...they burn. .__.

[Iamkingdomhearts1000 1,170]

  On 5/21/2012 at 8:18 PM, 'LiavGever' said:

i knew i wrote a lot but you gotta read the most to understand what i am talking about.

We all know that the new org members that confirmed is

Master Xehanort

Young Xehanort(which contains vanitas in him?)

Xemnas

Ansem Seeker of Darkness

Xigbar/Braig

Saix/Isa

 

What about Terranort , I mean Ansem SOD his heartless and Xemnas Are his nobody

So when yen sid told mickey(Secret ending of re;coded) that sora defeated Ansem and then Xemnas so now master xehanort should return, but actually he meant that terranort should return , cause they are both from him.

 

So if terranort return(IT HAD TO BE) how xehanort(master xehanort)returned too ?

isn't his heart should be in terranort?

and if xemnas and ansem returned(YMX brought them) so how MX or terranort can exist with them i mean their holding is body/soul and heart.

 

So can terranort and Xehanort can be exsist togheter? I mean terranort is have to return they deafeted is heartless and nobody.

 

So we all know that Ansem SOD and Xemnas deafeated - terranort come back

But then we being told that YMX brought Xemnas and Ansem back in time

that means that if they brought back after they defeated that cant be happen because they already dead,

so YMX brought them back before they was deafeted , but then it will change the past order , cause sora never deafeated them if YMX took them , so then terranort shouldn't return.

 

and so how is xehanort can return back to his orginial form ?

I mean YMX brought Xehanort also back in time(becuase xemnas and ansem when they were defeated brought back Terranort not xehanort becuase they are terranort nobody and heartless)

So its must have been that xehanort was back in time too , but YMX took xehanort back in time , he couldnt be doing it after MX force his heart into terra body because after he did that xehanort body had destroyed , and xehanort was basically terra .

terranort is more like Xehanort heart inside terra body , when terra heart is in the lingering will.

Anyway then YMX should have taken MX before he force his heart into terra body , but then again it wasn't make sense

because lets say that whats happend

 

YMX took xehanort from the past , before he forced his heart on terra's body , so then Terranort is never created , and if terranort never created means ansem and xemnas never created too becuase terranort(Their sombody) is basically never exsisted, so they can't exsist too(Xemnas not seem to exsist anyway because of him "being" nobody) so if they don't exsist mean all KH 1 /KH COM /KH 2 / DAYS / RE CODED and all the other game(Expect BBS) never happend.

Sora never became hero , there wasn't any heartless, riku didnt succumb to darkness , ansem sod didn't destroy any world . there wasn't any organizatio xii etc, so all of that leads me to the final question

 

Is YMX can take vessels for xehanort/take people/do his missions in the past , without changing the past order ? cause i just told you what wouldv'e happened if he took xehanort , or if he took xemnas/ansem - whatever, it doesnt make sense.

and where the firetruck is terranort? if xemnas and ansem defeated - terranort should come back , WHERE IS HE? how they brought xehanort(before the merge with terra i guess) without changing the whole storyline.?

 

Here's who i believe to be part of the new second Organization XIII made by Master Xehanort, ahem:

 

I-Master Xehanort.

 

II-Young Xehanort.

 

III-"Ansem", the Seeker of Darkness.

 

IV-Xemnas.

 

V-Xigbar.

 

VI-Saix.

 

VII-Vanitas.

 

VIII-Terra-Xehanort.

 

IX-Xehanort.

 

X-Ventus-Vanitas.

 

XI-Vanitas's Remnant.

 

XII-No Heart.

 

XIII-????

 

Maybe or maybe not, im expecting this post to may or may not get bad replies.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

First off, where Terra is is still kinda a mystery. Chances are Terranort is one of the forms of MX in the new organization though. Secondly, YMX takes the diff Norts from the past before they are defeated but they also eventually return to their original timelines to carryout their fates thus not interrupting the past or changing it .Therefore nothing in the past has been affected.

Edited May 21, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on

[LiavGever 5]

  On 5/21/2012 at 8:31 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said:

First off, where Terra is is still kinda a mystery. Chances are Terranort is one of the forms of MX in the new organization though. Secondly, YMX takes the diff Norts from the past before they are defeated but they also eventually return to their original timelines to carryout their fates thus not interrupting the past or changing it .Therefore nothing in the past has been affected.

 

so if they are deafeted means they are gonna die anyway ?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

  On 5/22/2012 at 4:29 AM, 'LiavGever' said:

so if they are deafeted means they are gonna die anyway ?

 

Pretty much

[LiavGever 5]

  On 5/22/2012 at 1:22 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said:

Pretty much

 

SO THEY WON'T BE IN THE FUTURE !

if they are still defeated , means their gonna die

mean that they won't be exsist then.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

  On 5/22/2012 at 1:50 PM, 'LiavGever' said:

SO THEY WON'T BE IN THE FUTURE !

if they are still defeated , means their gonna die

mean that they won't be exsist then.

 

You are missing the point . YMX keeps collecting them from the past before they die . When they need to reappear for KH3 he'll just do the same thing again - collect them before they are defeated thus creating an endless time loop.