KHCoM slight spoilers: Ansem SOD and Castle Oblivion

[chrissk08 15]

If the Organization is already established when Sora and co reach the Castle doesn't that mean Xemnas has already been manifested? Meaning Ansem became Xemnas..... Meaning YMX sent him through time to the Castle?..

 

If the Organization is already established when Sora and co reach the Castle doesn't that mean Xemnas has already been manifested? Meaning Ansem became Xemnas..... Meaning YMX sent him through time to the Castle?..

 

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Sent Ansem through time before his death.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Not sure what your asking but Xemnas had existed for ten years prior to the events of COM as AX had already split himself in two

Edited May 9, 2012 by devereauxr

[chrissk08 15]

Not sure what your asking but Xemnas had existed for ten years prior to the events of COM as AX had already split himself in two

 

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

[Wolfgang 735]

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

 

No....

Edited May 9, 2012 by Wolfgang

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

 

Um no when a person with a strong heart and will becomes a heartless the body that is left behind develops it's own will and becomes a nobody. Long before the events of KH1 Terranort turned himself into a heartless(Ansem SOD) while simaltaneously producing a nobody(Xemnas) which was the body that was left behind

[Not-with-a-whimper 144]

Ansem did not become Xemnas. After the events of Birth by Sleep, Master Xehenort used with Terra and was sent to Radiant Garden by Aqua after he had apparently lost his memories. During his time in Radiant Garden he went into research on darkness and the heart, eventually giving in to the darkness within his own heart, producing Ansem Seeker of Darkness, his heartless. Since he had a strong heart and will before becoming a Heartless, his body became a Nobody known as Xemnas. From that point on they existed as separate beings. Xemnas formed Organization XIII while Ansem SoD traveled between worlds, eventually meeting Sora in Destiny Islands and fusing with Riku in Hollow Bastion before finally facing Sora head on.

 

Side note: If Ansem SoD had just killed Sora before he had his Keyblade back on Destiny Islands, imagine just how much different things would have been.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

 

How can a person be this wrong after this many games and years ?

[TerraRedeemed 255]

/facewall

[chrissk08 15]

Wow I didn't really see it that way, I had a completely different perspective on the Heartless Nobody theory, guess it makes sense because I was confused to how there was an Organization established so fast after Sora and co were at Castle Oblivion. Thanks guys. And firetruck you axel_lea_lives_on, you troll way too much.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Wow I didn't really see it that way, I had a completely different perspective on the Heartless Nobody theory, guess it makes sense because I was confused to how there was an Organization established so fast after Sora and co were at Castle Oblivion. Thanks guys. And firetruck you axel_lea_lives_on, you troll way too much.

 

Troll? LMAO Thats funny as firetruck coming from someone who gets corrected about shit he doesnt know all the time . Not my fault you dont know wtf you are talking about . Can u say butthurt ? XDD

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Wow I didn't really see it that way, I had a completely different perspective on the Heartless Nobody theory, guess it makes sense because I was confused to how there was an Organization established so fast after Sora and co were at Castle Oblivion. Thanks guys. And firetruck you axel_lea_lives_on, you troll way too much.

 

First of all your rude comment was unesessary, second if you could see it from her point of you it's highly agravating when someone corrects someone else with wrong information especially when it's common knowledge and it' done repeatedly. Just because you found out you were wrong doesn't mean you have the right to take it out on somebody else. Just take this as a learning experience it's not always personal

[chrissk08 15]

Troll? LMAO Thats funny as firetruck coming from someone who gets corrected about shit he doesnt know all the time . Not my fault you dont know wtf you are talking about . Can u say butthurt ? XDD

 

Haha I mean I guess I get corrected a couple times on here, but it's all just speculation, thoughts and perspective. And really no one knows what they're talking about on here most of the times. We're just putting pieces of the puzzle together.

 

First of all your rude comment was unesessary, second if you could see it from her point of you it's highly agravating when someone corrects someone else with wrong information especially when it's common knowledge and it' done repeatedly. Just because you found out you were wrong doesn't mean you have the right to take it out on somebody else. Just take this as a learning experience it's not always personal

 

ok. lol.

[CrownKeeper13 688]

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

 

Noob. Xemnas was created when AX gave up his body. The body became Xemnas, the heart became ASoD.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Haha I mean I guess I get corrected a couple times on here, but it's all just speculation, thoughts and perspective. And really no one knows what they're talking about on here most of the times. We're just putting pieces of the puzzle together.

 

 

ok. lol.

 

No theres canon fact thats definitely not opinion and then there are theories which are thoughts and speculation .. There is a difference . There are LOTS of people who know their facts and will help inform you as long as you dont go nuts bc you were corrected when wrong

[chrissk08 15]

No theres canon fact thats definitely not opinion and then there are theories which are thoughts and speculation .. There is a difference . There are LOTS of people who know their facts and will help inform you as long as you dont go nuts bc you were corrected when wrong

 

I know the difference lol. And I know a lot, and enough when it comes to the canon facts of KH. There's a few things I get wrong, so what. I could care less. Leave me be to my mistakes. You make a big deal saying "How can a person be this wrong after this many games and years?" I saw it differently, sheesh. Plus it's been a couple years since I've played KH1 and 2 and only watched cutscenes of the other games. Spare me the lecture.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

This person just hasnt done their homework

[chrissk08 15]

Noob. Xemnas was created when AX gave up his body. The body became Xemnas, the heart became ASoD.

 

Thanks bro, really didnt know that.

 

This person just hasnt done their homework

 

poooop

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I know the difference lol. And I know a lot, and enough when it comes to the canon facts of KH. There's a few things I get wrong, so what. I could care less. Leave me be to my mistakes. You make a big deal saying "How can a person be this wrong after this many games and years?" I saw it differently, sheesh. Plus it's been a couple years since I've played KH1 and 2 and only watched cutscenes of the other games. Spare me the lecture.

 

Spare me the butthurt then when you dont know what you are talking about . Theres nothing to see differently on how a nobody and heartless get created .. This is basic knowledge .If you dont know basic facts then you need to brush up before arguing with people who correct your mistakes.Plus your reaction is very immature and makes you look worse .Just sayin'.

 

Thanks bro, really didnt know that.

 

 

poooop

 

This proves my point even more

[chrissk08 15]

Spare me the butthurt then when you dont know what you are talking about . Theres nothing to see differently on how a nobody and heartless get created .. This is basic knowledge .If you dont know basic facts then you need to brush up before arguing with people who correct your mistakes.Plus your reaction is very immature and makes you look worse .Just sayin'.

 

 

 

This proves my point even more

 

I agree with you. I saw it differently, I followed the story differently. Came here to shed some light on my theory, that's it. I've been reassured and epiphanized. Honestly, I don't come here to fight or prove I can take a hint. Obviously my decision to be immature and oblivious was rash. Therefore, I take responsibility. This is one thing that slipped past me since the beginning. I'm pretty sure when it comes to practically everything else I get it. So accept my brief apology and lets move on. This is getting rather dragged on. I'm done with the replying. And thank you to anyone who actually corrected me and shed light on my misperception of what I've been believing since I was 13. Peace.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I know the difference lol. And I know a lot, and enough when it comes to the canon facts of KH. There's a few things I get wrong, so what. I could care less. Leave me be to my mistakes. You make a big deal saying "How can a person be this wrong after this many games and years?" I saw it differently, sheesh. Plus it's been a couple years since I've played KH1 and 2 and only watched cutscenes of the other games. Spare me the lecture.

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/943347-kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep/57971099 A brush up the "facts" so far in the series I suggest you at them they explain a lot. You'll avoid a lot of arguement when you know what your talking about and can back it up. Eventually you'll be able to look back on this and see where everyone was coming from. Plus being polite helps it move on better and doesn't make you look like a noob.

[Bosh104 51]

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

 

fail!

[RoxaSoraXIII 40]

I think you're referring to Xehanort lol. Xemnas wasn't born until Ansem was defeated. Xemnas is a nobody.

 

Hm... Nope. Xemnas was born at the same time as Ansem SoD, because Xemnas is Terranort's Nobody and Ansem SoD is Terranort's Heartless. When Terranort was conducting heart experiments, he and the others became Heartless and Nobodies.