Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 9:30 PM, 'Timpani' said: lul get a lyfe noob Get a grammer lesson noob 2 HarLea Quinn and xionroxasaxel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 9:45 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said: Hatok , Im not being silly .Nomura has even talked about his own like of the character.. I know you arent happy with Lea getting a keyblade and thats fine . I dont expect everyone to like him either . But for those of us who do ,its silly to belittle us for it . Nomura coulda killed him off permanently but he didnt... and he didnt have to give him a keyblade but he did.. Whats that say ? What does it say? It says he caved to fan pressure from people like you.People constantly demand more Axelea, and they give it to them. Plot be damned. It says Nomura betrayed his orignal designs for the plot yet again, as pressure from Disney, Square Enix, critics, and even fans forces him into compromise after compromise. Honestly, the things you say bug me more with each reply. You take any comment against Axel personally. Part of being a fan of something or someone is understanding as many elements of it as you can. As a fan of Axel, you should be able to acknowledge his history, and live with his flaws. Fandom shouldn't be tantamount to ignorance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) On 4/28/2012 at 10:30 PM, 'hatok' said: What does it say? It says he caved to fan pressure from people like you. People constantly demand more Axelea, and they give it to them. Plot be damned. It says Nomura betrayed his orignal designs for the plot yet again, as pressure from Disney, Square Enix, critics, and even fans forces him into compromise after compromise. Honestly, the things you say bug me more with each reply. You take any comment against Axel personally. Part of being a fan of something or someone is understanding as many elements of it as you can. As a fan of Axel, you should be able to acknowledge his history, and live with his flaws. Fandom shouldn't be tantamount to ignorance. I do acknowledge all of that you mentioned . But i find it offensive when people berate his fans bc they like him . Of course we want to see more of him. That doesnt make us any different than any of the other characters fanbases. Its rediculous to call fans terrible or obsessive or any other insults. Everyone likes and supports their favorites. Like i mentioned above , i dont force or expect others to like him. But i do expect not to be slammed for supporting his character either . There is no logical reason to get that worked up over that.. I also dont take any criticism of Lea personally either .. I even said i know that you hate his keyblade and thats fine .. Now you are just attacking me when im simply defending my right to like who i want without being called names .Especially over a video game. Seems a bit much and over the top Edited April 28, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) At then of the day this all comes down to preference whether you like it or not axel/lea has won over the fans and is here to stay. He is now so developed into the plot it would be pointless to take him out. When comes to the right for a fan to support their favorite charcter they should be able to without descrimination as I'm pretty sure that is one of the many reasons Kingdom Hearts as a series (even this site) has survived for so long. Edited April 28, 2012 by devereauxr 2 hatok and HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 10:51 PM, 'devereauxr' said: At then of the day this all comes down to preference whether you like it or not axel/lea has won over the fans and is here to stay. He is now so developed into the plot it would be pointless to take him out. When comes to the right for a fan to support their favorite charcter they should be able to without descrimination as I'm pretty sure that is one of the many reasons Kingdom Hearts as a series (even this site) has survived for so long. This ..ty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 10:38 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said: I do acknowledge all of that you mentioned . But i find it offensive when people berate his fans bc they like him . Of course we want to see more of him. That doesnt make us any different than any of the other characters fanbases. Its rediculous to call fans terrible or obsessive or any other insults. Everyone likes and supports their favorites. Like i mentioned above , i dont force or expect others to like him. But i do expect not to be slammed for supporting his character either . There is no logical reason to get that worked up over that.. I also dont take any criticism of Lea personally either .. I even said i know that you hate his keyblade and thats fine .. Now you are just attacking me when im simply defending my right to like who i want without being called names .Especially over a video game. Seems a bit much and over the top See, you take my talk about Axel, the fictional character, personally. I don't see why.As I've said before, it's great that you like Axelea. You're just taking it a bit far if you think me complaining about Axelea is an attack on you. You're also lumping my posts together with Timapni's, but only talking to me. And don't go around accusing me of getting worked up (Especially considering your reaction to people's stances on how a fictional character should be dealt with) I don't get worked up. I just type. How you interpret my text has no bearing on my physical mental state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 11:17 PM, 'hatok' said: See, you take my talk about Axel, the fictional character, personally. I don't see why. As I've said before, it's great that you like Axelea. You're just taking it a bit far if you think me complaining about Axelea is an attack on you. You're also lumping my posts together with Timapni's, but only talking to me. And don't go around accusing me of getting worked up (Especially considering your reaction to people's stances on how a fictional character should be dealt with) I don't get worked up. I just type. How you interpret my text has no bearing on my physical mental state. I didnt lump you in with Timapni.. What im refering to is when you say stuff like "its fans like you " etc etc ( saying these words and such is defintely an attack on me )...Also although it is hard to read the tone of some posts bc it is after all text , i felt like you were coming off as getting worked up or overly upset at me bc you clearly dont like some of the developements in plot lately..You have a right to your opinion and whatnot , but to argue with me over my obviously different outlook does seem much . I have my own things about the plot i dislike but i wont get upset if someone does like what i dont . This is my point .Your posts to me infer this .If this isnt what you meant , then im sorry for that . However theres no reason to say such things as ' its bc of fans like you ".. Furthermore i addressed Timpani seperately bc i didnt lump you together...I chose to discuss this with you seperately bc i viewed you seperately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 11:32 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said: I didnt lump you in with Timapni.. What im refering to is when you say stuff like "its fans like you " etc etc ( saying these words and such is defintely an attack on me )...Also although it is hard to read the tone of some posts bc it is after all text , i felt like you were coming off as getting worked up or overly upset at me bc you clearly dont like some of the developements in plot lately..You have a right to your opinion and whatnot , but to argue with me over my obviously different outlook does seem much . I have my own things about the plot i dislike but i wont get upset if someone does like what i dont . This is my point .Your posts to me infer this .If this isnt what you meant , then im sorry for that . However theres no reason to say such things as ' its bc of fans like you ".. Furthermore i addressed Timpani seperately bc i didnt lump you together...I chose to discuss this with you seperately bc i viewed you seperately. Ah, I see how the fans like you can be said. See, to me, I'm just stating a fact. It is because of people, such as yourself, who like Axel a lot that he is still up and kicking, this is a fact. I didn't mean to attack you specifically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 28, 2012 On 4/28/2012 at 11:37 PM, 'hatok' said: Ah, I see how the fans like you can be said. See, to me, I'm just stating a fact. It is because of people, such as yourself, who like Axel a lot that he is still up and kicking, this is a fact. I didn't mean to attack you specifically. And you know what ? Im not even disputing that about Axel/Lea .. Im sure its a mixture of fanservice and the fact that hes very well liked in the SE staff like i mentioned before Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites