KH3D SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME! spoilers

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HOW IN THE WORLD IS AXEL/LEA ONE OF THE SEVEN LIGHTS?

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

HOW IN THE WORLD IS AXEL/LEA ONE OF THE SEVEN LIGHTS?

 

He's not as far as we know. The 7 lights were confirmed to be Mickey, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, and Ven. That's only 6. Lea has never been mentioned as one of them. He could be the other one, but Kairi could as well considering she can also wield a keyblade.

 

Also put spoilers in your thread title.

Edited April 25, 2012 by Master Xehanort1690

[Iamkingdomhearts1000 1,170]

I don't think he is, rather, he is just one of the many Keyblade Wielders that has aligned himself alongside Sora against both Master Xehanort and the new Organization XIII.

[moogleman 66]

He's not as far as we know. The 7 lights were confirmed to be Mickey, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, and Ven. That's only 6. Lea has never been mentioned as one of them. He could be the other one, but Kairi could as well considering she can also wield a keyblade.

 

Also put spoilers in your thread title.

 

are you implying that Axle/Lea can wield a keyblade/

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

are you implying that Axle/Lea can wield a keyblade/

 

 

Yes he can. He summons a keybalde at the end of DDD and the 7 lights are all keyblade wielders.

 

[moogleman 66]

 

Yes he can. He summons a keybalde at the end of DDD and the 7 lights are all keyblade wielders.

 

 

O_O i`m gonna pretend i didn`t hear that.

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

O_O i`m gonna pretend i didn`t hear that.

 

That's why I put it in a spoiler.

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

firetruck you and your unmarked spoiler

 

Dude chill it was marked as spoiler.

[Waller-pearson 60]

firetruck you and your unmarked spoiler

 

ignorant humans like you dont deserve a heart ... " slaps knee "

[Skai 3,961]

He's not as far as we know. The 7 lights were confirmed to be Mickey, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, and Ven. That's only 6. Lea has never been mentioned as one of them. He could be the other one, but Kairi could as well considering she can also wield a keyblade.

 

Also put spoilers in your thread title.

 

Mickey counted them, but they weren't confirmed. Also Xehanort confirmed that Terra's body was being used as a Seeker of Darkness. If it was confirmed, where's the proof and don't show me the ending video. That confirms diddly squat.

 

 

ignorant humans like you dont deserve a heart ... " slaps knee "

 

Dude chill it was marked as spoiler.

 

That's why I put it in a spoiler.

 

I think they saw it before the spoiler sign was put on top of it. This is why you put it up the first time so you don't ruin the game for the other people.

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

Mickey counted them, but they weren't confirmed. Also Xehanort confirmed that Terra's body was being used as a Seeker of Darkness. If it was confirmed, where's the proof and don't show me the ending video. That confirms diddly squat.

 

 

 

 

I think they saw it before the spoiler sign was put on top of it. This is why you put it up the first time so you don't ruin the game for the other people.

 

The proof is when Mickey himself said 6 of the 7 lights were Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven, and himself. I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about. MX pretty much confirmed it as well when he says I have 2 of the 7 lights on my side leaving only 6(the ones Mickey said). MX never said Terra was one of the 13 darknesses, only that he had him on his side, which could mean a number of things.

 

It seems you're trying to deny the obvious.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Master Xehanort1690

[Skai 3,961]

The proof is when Mickey himself said 6 of the 7 lights were Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven, and himself. I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about. MX pretty much confirmed it as well when he says I have 2 of the 7 lights on my side leaving only 6(the ones Mickey said). MX never said Terra was one of the 13 darknesses, only that he had him on his side, which could mean a number of things.

 

It seems you're trying to deny the obvious.

 

Xehanort said that he was a vessel, meaning one of the seekers. I think that was OBVIOUS enough. I'm simply denying the fact that you can't assume these things, knowing that the Creator is Nomura. At this point Lea and Kairi are more likely to be Guardians than Terra. Terra's body is under Xehanort's control. The heart is inside that body. How is he going to be a Guardian of Light?

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

Xehanort said that he was a vessel, meaning one of the seekers. I think that was OBVIOUS enough. I'm simply denying the fact that you can't assume these things, knowing that the Creator is Nomura. At this point Lea and Kairi are more likely to be Guardians than Terra. Terra's body is under Xehanort's control. The heart is inside that body. How is he going to be a Guardian of Light?

 

MX NEVER said Terra was one of the 13 darknesses. Go read the subtitles for the ending again, he simply says 2 of the lights are on his side(Terra and Sora at the time). MX also said the 7 lights are chosen naturally, so you can't substitue one for another, which is what MX alluded to when he said to Mickey "don't get ideas"

[Skai 3,961]

MX NEVER said Terra was one of the 13 darknesses. Go read the subtitles for the ending again, he simply says 2 of the lights are on his side(Terra and Sora at the time). MX also said the 7 lights are chosen naturally, so you can't substitue one for another, which is what MX alluded to when he said to Mickey "don't get ideas"

 

Alright fine I guess he didn't but just because Mickey counted Terra, doesn't mean he is one. Mickey has been wrong before and he isn't all-knowing. Mickey counted him, but with the new Keyblade Wielders established, anything can go.

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

Alright fine I guess he didn't but just because Mickey counted Terra, doesn't mean he is one. Mickey has been wrong before and he isn't all-knowing. Mickey counted him, but with the new Keyblade Wielders established, anything can go.

 

MX confirmed Terra to be one as well when he said I have 2 of the 7 lights on my side(Terra and Sora at the time). The 7 lights are chosen naturally, so he can't be replaced like you seem to think. The last light is either Lea or Kairi considering the 7 lights are all keyblade wielders.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Master Xehanort1690

[Skai 3,961]

MX confirmed Terra to be one as well when he said I have 2 of the 7 lights on my side(Terra and Sora at the time). The 7 lights are chosen naturally, so he can't be replaced like you seem to think. The last light is either Lea or Kairi considering the 7 lights are all keyblade wielders.

 

They are chosen naturally. Who's to say Terra was chosen naturally in the first place? Mickey and Xehanort were the ones who counted, not 'nature' or Nomura.

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

They are chosen naturally. Who's to say Terra was chosen naturally in the first place? Mickey and Xehanort were the ones who counted, not 'nature' or Nomura.

 

It seems you're in denial my friend.

[Skai 3,961]

It seems you're in denial my friend.

 

 

Lol, it seems you don't know what denial means. Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a FACT that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead. Nomura didn't say those 6 were part of the 7 light and since his word is technically fact in this game, you're prediction has no basis. Learn the damn word's meaning before you use it, my friend. You just schooled, enough said.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Sky Heart

[atheist123 583]

It seems you're in denial my friend.

 

I think its you who is in denial : p Anyone could be right. . . . if anything Lea is more of a natural Light than Sora. Lea produced a keyblade (pressumably) through his innate goodness, and his sacrifice for Sora. His being a keyblade weilder is more natural than Sora, who is only a weilder because he has Ventus' heart in him.

 

So the natural "Lights" should actually be;

1) Riku

2) Kairi

3) Mickey

4) Ventus

5) Aqua

6) Terra

7) Lea

Sora is the "Key", not a Light.

 

I dont even know why we are arguing over this; any of us could be right. But the impossible are; Xion and Roxas. Possible; Sora, Terra, Lea, Ventus, Kairi. Confirmed essentially; Aqua, Mickey, Riku

[Skai 3,961]

I think its you who is in denial : p Anyone could be right. . . . if anything Lea is more of a natural Light than Sora. Lea produced a keyblade (pressumably) through his innate goodness, and his sacrifice for Sora. His being a keyblade wielder is more natural than Sora, who is only a weilder because he has Ventus' heart in him.

 

Thank you, at least someone has a f**king mind and knows the difference between predictions/opinions and facts.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Sky Heart

[Axtwyt 500]

Lol, it seems you don't know what denial means. Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a FACT that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead.

 

Someone's not very good at self-defense there.

 

Nomura didn't say those 6 were part of the 7 light and since his word is technically fact in this game, you're prediction has no basis. Learn the damn word's meaning before you use it, my friend. You just schooled, enough said.

 

Think logically:

Xehanort said he had two of the seven lights.

 

Here are some possibilities on those seven lights:

Sora

Riku

Kairi

Terra

Aqua

Ventus

Lea

Roxas

 

Now we eliminate based on who we knew could fill a spot when Xehanort talked about the lights:

 

Sora (Unable due to being in Xehanort's possession)

Riku (Confirmed light)

Kairi (Kairi was kinda irrelevant until we saw the secret ending)

Terra (Currently missing)

Aqua (Confirmed light based on coded's ending)

Ventus (Confirmed light based on 3D's ending)

Lea (We didn't know he could wield a keyblade at that time)

Roxas (Highly unlikely since Roxas himself denied to exist a few moments before this)

 

Sora and Terra are the ones Xehanort refered to when he said "I have two of the seven lights." And I do believe Xehanort actually said that Mickey was correct in his guesses.

 

So unless Xehanort has other Keyblade wielders who could fight for the seven lights on his side, we can pretty much say that he was addressing Sora and Terra as the lights on his side.

[Skai 3,961]

Someone's not very good at self-defense there.

 

 

 

Think logically:

Xehanort said he had two of the seven lights.

 

Here are some possibilities on those seven lights:

Sora

Riku

Kairi

Terra

Aqua

Ventus

Lea

Roxas

 

Now we eliminate based on who we knew could fill a spot when Xehanort talked about the lights:

 

Sora (Unable due to being in Xehanort's possession)

Riku (Confirmed light)

Kairi (Kairi was kinda irrelevant until we saw the secret ending)

Terra (Currently missing)

Aqua (Confirmed light based on coded's ending)

Ventus (Confirmed light based on 3D's ending)

Lea (We didn't know he could wield a keyblade at that time)

Roxas (Highly unlikely since Roxas himself denied to exist a few moments before this)

 

Sora and Terra are the ones Xehanort refered to when he said "I have two of the seven lights." And I do believe Xehanort actually said that Mickey was correct in his guesses.

 

So unless Xehanort has other Keyblade wielders who could fight for the seven lights on his side, we can pretty much say that he was addressing Sora and Terra as the lights on his side.

 

Xeahanort said they are chosen naturally and he didn't say he knew exactly who they were. I agree that Xehanort is very intelligent and a genius keyblade master, like Yen Sid says. It doesn't mean he's an all-knowing figure. Xehanort was only addressing who Mickey was talking about. Lea also said everything isn't a preset destiny, which is a damn good line. That line practically showed you that Xehanort didn't know everything and so you can't really trust everything he says. In BbS, he thought having a being of pure light and a being of darkness merging could forge the real X-Blade and he was wrong there too. Also, Xehanort said he had two of the 7 lights Mickey was thinking, not the real 7 lights.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Sky Heart

[Axtwyt 500]

Xeahanort said they are chosen naturally and he didn't say he knew exactly who they were. I agree that Xehanort is very intelligent and a genius keyblade master, like Yen Sid says. It doesn't mean he's an all-knowing figure. Xehanort was only addressing who Mickey was talking about. Lea also said everything isn't a preset destiny, which is a damn good line. That line practically showed you that Xehanort didn't know everything and so you can't really trust everything he says. In BbS, he thought having a being of pure light and a being of darkness merging could forge the real X-Blade and he was wrong there too. Also, Xehanort said he had two of the 7 lights Mickey was thinking, not the real 7 lights.

 

True, but with your new argument, you just proved our point.

 

Mickey's Lights:

Sora

Riku

Mickey

Terra

Aqua

Ventus

?

 

Take away some logical ones:

 

Sora

Riku (Talking to Xehanort)

Mickey (Talking to Xehanort)

Terra

Aqua (Still inRealm of Darkness)

Ventus (Still in Castle Oblivion)

? (Cause no one knows who they are!)

 

So it's still Sora and Terra!

[Skai 3,961]

True, but with your new argument, you just proved our point.

 

Mickey's Lights:

Sora

Riku

Mickey

Terra

Aqua

Ventus

?

 

Take away some logical ones:

 

Sora

Riku (Talking to Xehanort)

Mickey (Talking to Xehanort)

Terra

Aqua (Still inRealm of Darkness)

Ventus (Still in Castle Oblivion)

? (Cause no one knows who they are!)

 

So it's still Sora and Terra!

 

Lol, you're funny. Those are what they think the lights are, but not confirmed to be.

[Master Xehanort1690 39]

Lol, it seems you don't know what denial means. Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a FACT that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead. Nomura didn't say those 6 were part of the 7 light and since his word is technically fact in this game, you're prediction has no basis. Learn the damn word's meaning before you use it, my friend. You just schooled, enough said.

 

Your basis of argument is Nomura didn't say it so it's not true. Seriously? So I guess since Nomura didn't say a lot of things in KH means they aren't true right? Like Riku passed the MoM and Sora failed. Yen Sid said it, but Nomura didn't so according to your logic it's not true. Lol that's funny. Nomura doesn't have to say it himself for it to be true. I actually have evidence supporting my argument unlike you who's only basis is Nomura didn't say it. Lol I can't take you seriously anymore.

 

I think its you who is in denial : p Anyone could be right. . . . if anything Lea is more of a natural Light than Sora. Lea produced a keyblade (pressumably) through his innate goodness, and his sacrifice for Sora. His being a keyblade weilder is more natural than Sora, who is only a weilder because he has Ventus' heart in him.

 

So the natural "Lights" should actually be;

1) Riku

2) Kairi

3) Mickey

4) Ventus

5) Aqua

6) Terra

7) Lea

Sora is the "Key", not a Light.

 

I dont even know why we are arguing over this; any of us could be right. But the impossible are; Xion and Roxas. Possible; Sora, Terra, Lea, Ventus, Kairi. Confirmed essentially; Aqua, Mickey, Riku

 

There's so much wrong with this post. Nomura has already stated that Sora can wield a keyblade due to the strength of his heart and connection to his friends. Ven is the reason he can duel wield, not the reason he can wield a keyblade.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Master Xehanort1690