POSSIBLE SPOILERS: KH Re:Boot soon to happen

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

No knocking Nomura......alright yes i am, but only because he's slowly destroying a beautiful thing.

 

Kingdom Hearts has to be one of the most complicated stories i personally know of now. All because of Nomura man, it used to be simple, go to a world, lock it, save it. That was it.

 

NNOOOOWWWWW hes throwing old time traveling pedo's and nice black trenchcoats and shizz. It isnt terribly hard to follow not at all, but its just too much. Too much to the point where i think he'll get tired himself and either kill the series off or reboot it with a new plot and stuff like that.

 

Players that stopped at KH2 and dont even know that BBS,ReCoded and Days exist are going to jump straight to 3 when it comes out and be confused as hell because they dont know whats going on.

 

I just dont want this game to get too big and stupid too fast, KH is one of the only games that i like, its in fact my favorite series. I dont want to lose that.

[Kimisary 36]

Omg, gtfo.

 

Hironobu Sakaguchi the creator of final fantasy told Tetsuya Nomura that if he ever wanted to succeed and make a video game that was as famous as Final Fantasy he had to add a complex plot.

 

the original kingdom hearts was suppose to be a simple game of character traveling to different words and saving them,

BUT if Hironobu Sakaguchi would had never told Tetsuya Nomura to add a complex plot Kingdom Hearts would had never been as famous as it is today.

[Akihiko 1,628]

Omg, gtfo.

 

Hironobu Sakaguchi the creator of final fantasy told Tetsuya Nomura that if he ever wanted to succeed and make a video game that was as famous as Final Fantasy he had to add a complex plot.

 

the original kingdom hearts was suppose to be a simple game of character traveling to different words and saving them,

BUT if Hironobu Sakaguchi would had never told Tetsuya Nomura to add a complex plot Kingdom Hearts would had never been as famous as it is today.

 

This.

 

If KH was just a game where you just go to random worlds to save them, and didn't have this kind of plot, I wouldn't like it.

 

Imagine KH without all the emotional scenes and unexpected surprises.

 

And honestly, I think the time travel aspect was well constructed into the plot without causing paradoxes and other things. It's still quite hard to understand, thought.

Edited April 25, 2012 by Golden Ultima

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Im not very happy with the time traveling aspect of the plot . Matter of fact i downright hate it . However ,it doesnt stop me from enjoying the series bc ive enjoyed playing each and every one of the games in the series so far. Im sure i will still enjoy this one despite its flaws. I love complicated plots and games that illicit strong emotion from me .This series has achieved that . I can accept its flaws bc the enjoyment i get more than makes up for them.

[KissyFace 134]

I'm gonna laugh when the people who ignored BBS and KH3D in particular don't know what's going on when they play KH3.

[Kimisary 36]

This.

 

If KH was just a game where you just go to random worlds to save them, and didn't have this kind of plot, I wouldn't like it.

 

Imagine KH without all the emotional scenes and unexpected surprises.

 

i know watcha mean

i hate most of the disney world in KH but the gameplay and plot is great

so it makes the game GOOD.

[Mina Del Rio 39]

I'll add myself to the general opinion. I didn't like the first Kingdom Hearts. I started it, got to wonderland, read some about it, and saw... that was it. Go to random places to save the day. I gifted the game to a friend. Then, he finished it, and asked me to get KH II for him, and I played it before lending it. I though it was going to be the same, but I was actually surprised to see that there was a slightly different story going on... so I started playing... and then I jumped to bbs, which called me because it was related to BOTH games.

 

But I won't deny it... when I heard Young Xehanort talking about time travel, my face twisted in a "WHAT THE---" expression, and I doublefacepalmed. Then I sat, and started to think of it... all these events I had seen... and I decided it was cool... weird... maybe unneeded... but after all, cool. And since I'm a fan of time traveling-people, I just hope Nomura doesn't kill both, physics and KH LOL

[eraldaine 89]

Yeah no, sorry. In basis the outline of the gameplay has always been simplistic-- the plot has not. For as long as I can remember (possibly around 7 years ago?) There have always been holes and open questions within the KH storyline that people wanted answers for-- it's natural for a series with the complexity and detail shown within the main games of the series to counteract these holes with additional information such as BBS, KH3D, Re:Coded, ect. I for one am glad the series is this convulted, storyline wise; the passion and eagerness, the shared excitement, constant debates and theories and the interpretations I've seen from fanfiction writers and RPers a like make it well worth it.

 

And to be honest, convulted plots are practically a signature of Square games anyway. It was bound to end up this way. If you've followed ten years worth of games, the next ten shouldn't kill you.

[FFxChainlessSoulxKH 56]

I like the compelity of the plot, it makes things more interesting. Because you found out new things, and they all lead to the same thing. I think of it like a puzzle, you get one piece, and over time you get more. And then inally you have completed the whole puzzle

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

Theres a difference between complexity and stupidity.

 

Hey lets have a protagonist that splits himself up into 4 different people, THEN GO back in time to mess stuff up again when it doesnt go according to plan. The story right now makes sense sure but there are so many unanswered questions because Nomura is stuffing too much stuff into KH as it is now, now the Nobodies supposedly can cultivate hearts?

 

And we dont even know what the Heartless are anymore. Nomura needs to make a book or something to explain everything up to date. Not saying hes a terrible story teller but hes way too unorganized.

 

Like in Gurren Lagann if anyones watched it, its cool up until the last 2 0r 3 episodes then shit gets thrown out the window all confusing and stuff. KH isnt bad just complicated, if youre going to make a game complex at least have it in a manner where your fans can understand it.

[Akihiko 1,628]

The only character that is a part of Sora is Roxas, the others are just connected to him, if I'm not forgetting anything, and the heartless are people that fell into darkness, like you can see when Sora became one.

[Xiggy 26]

Come on... The story isn't hard to understand. All games have something to add to the game's main story, and you just have to ficus a little to make it makes it sense.

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

Come on... The story isn't hard to understand. All games have something to add to the game's main story, and you just have to ficus a little to make it makes it sense.

 

The story is ok, its entertaining, just dont want it to get tot eh point where its too much, I bet most of you didnt know that the Keyblades are just copies of the XBlade used to fight one another. They were originally created for Darkness but heroes go ahold of em and used them for good.

 

That was a spin no one was ready for.

[Akihiko 1,628]

The story is ok, its entertaining, just dont want it to get tot eh point where its too much, I bet most of you didnt know that the Keyblades are just copies of the XBlade used to fight one another. They were originally created for Darkness but heroes go ahold of em and used them for good.

 

That was a spin no one was ready for.

 

Would you rather never know where the keyblades came from? And those surprises make the game even better, because you're not ready for anything, and you won't know what's going to happen next.

[Emo/Yami 37]

The story is ok, its entertaining, just dont want it to get tot eh point where its too much, I bet most of you didnt know that the Keyblades are just copies of the XBlade used to fight one another. They were originally created for Darkness but heroes go ahold of em and used them for good.

 

That was a spin no one was ready for.

 

Oh, I get what you're saying. I thought you meant the story was stupid because it started getting really complicated, but really you mean that you don't want the story some complex that it makes absolutely no sense at all, am I right?

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

Would you rather never know where the keyblades came from? And those surprises make the game even better, because you're not ready for anything, and you won't know what's going to happen next.

 

Yeah but its like, first game Sora has a Keyblade its a weapon of mass power and can save the world, it was special. Now in 3D even Lea can get a Keyblade. Its like anyone with a strong heart can get one nowadays. I believe Lea getting a key was solely for the fans.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Meh ..Predictability is boring..Do you want to be able to predict every little detail ? No ! Complexity makes it fun bc you can theorize and debate what you think might happen next or why something has already happened .

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

 

Oh, I get what you're saying. I thought you meant the story was stupid because it started getting really complicated, but really you mean that you don't want the story some complex that it makes absolutely no sense at all, am I right?

 

I just know we have questions that Nomura needs to answer, certain questions that are not going to be answered either because theyre way in past games or because they cant be answered in future games.

 

Just dont want him digging a hole into this series. And to stay true to it also, the main reason most of us play this is because of the Disney implementation. I hope he can incorporate it a little bit more.

 

Meh ..Predictability is boring..Do you want to be able to predict every little detail ? No ! Complexity makes it fun bc you can theorize and debate what you think might happen next or why something has already happened .

 

You guys arent understanding me, not saying i want a predictable game, just something that makes sense.

 

Like completely out of left field: we find out youre able to time travel and bring back 13 versions of yourself. Like since when was that an ability in KH? I dont want him to add something to where it clashes with something hes stated before and it becomes a big paradox.

 

[Rob 5,571]

WTF IS THIS GUY SPOILING?

[Xiggy 26]

Yeah but its like, first game Sora has a Keyblade its a weapon of mass power and can save the world, it was special. Now in 3D even Lea can get a Keyblade. Its like anyone with a strong heart can get one nowadays. I believe Lea getting a key was solely for the fans.

 

+1 dude.

 

Lea/Axel is just here for fan(girl). And now, he has a Keyblade ? Come one... I mean, Kairi can have one, and it's explicated with BbS, but Lea ? Na... It don't make any sense. Yen Sid isn't a Keyblade Master anymore, how could he grant Lea with this power ?

 

"He's an ancient ennemy, who have betraeyed his previous side, but YES, give him a weapon that can destroyed the entire worlds, it's clearly safe. Girls will love that, he will be able to protect Sora and even date with him, instead of Riku."

 

You could also give a nuclear weapon to Kefka, it's clearly safe. He won't shoot, he loves life too much to do it...

Edited April 25, 2012 by Xiggy

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I just know we have questions that Nomura needs to answer, certain questions that are not going to be answered either because theyre way in past games or because they cant be answered in future games.

 

Just dont want him digging a hole into this series. And to stay true to it also, the main reason most of us play this is because of the Disney implementation. I hope he can incorporate it a little bit more.

 

 

 

You guys arent understanding me, not saying i want a predictable game, just something that makes sense.

 

Like completely out of left field: we find out youre able to time travel and bring back 13 versions of yourself. Like since when was that an ability in KH? I dont want him to add something to where it clashes with something hes stated before and it becomes a big paradox.

 

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LOL I understand you just fine ..Plus go read my first post ...I hate the time traveling aspect of the plot...However that doesnt mean every little detail of the plot has to have been planned out from KH1...Of course things will be added to the plot later .

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

WTF IS THIS GUY SPOILING?

 

idk how to cahnge my title to (spoilers) LOOK AWAY!! sorry

 

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LOL I understand you just fine ..Plus go read my first post ...I hate the time traveling aspect of the plot...However that doesnt mean every little detail of the plot has to have been planned out from KH1...Of course things will be added to the plot later .

 

Yeah,,,,i sort of think thats a problem i mean it doesnt have to me planned out from jump but if youre gonna add something just make sure it flows correctly. I was cool with everything up to KH2. Hell even to Days and BBS wasnt too bad but Coded started throwing me off a bit.

 

+1 dude.

 

Lea/Axel is just here for fan(girl). And now, he has a Keyblade ? Come one... I mean, Kairi can have one, and it's explicated with BbS, but Lea ? Na... It don't make any sense. Yen Sid isn't a Keyblade Master anymore, how could he grant Lea with this power ?

 

"He's an ancient ennemy, who have betraeyed his previous side, but YES, give him a weapon that can destroyed the entire worlds, it's clearly safe. Girls will love that, he will be able to protect Sora and even date with him, instead of Riku."

 

You could also give a nuclear weapon to Kefka, it's clearly safe. He won't shoot, he loves life too much to do it...

 

I love you for this.

[Rob 5,571]

idk how to cahnge my title to (spoilers) LOOK AWAY!! sorry

 

Yeah, because you couldn't put "(possible spoilers)" when you were making the title of this thread. 2 days in a row you've spoiled me now. Thanks.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

+1 dude.

 

Lea/Axel is just here for fan(girl). And now, he has a Keyblade ? Come one... I mean, Kairi can have one, and it's explicated with BbS, but Lea ? Na... It don't make any sense. Yen Sid isn't a Keyblade Master anymore, how could he grant Lea with this power ?

 

"He's an ancient ennemy, who have betraeyed his previous side, but YES, give him a weapon that can destroyed the entire worlds, it's clearly safe. Girls will love that, he will be able to protect Sora and even date with him, instead of Riku."

 

You could also give a nuclear weapon to Kefka, it's clearly safe. He won't shoot, he loves life too much to do it...

 

This makes no sense ..Ancient enemy ? You do know that even when Axel/ lea was in the organization he was working against them bc clearly he didnt trust Xemnas.And he was right . He worked to save Sora in CoM and freed Namine .In KH2 he sacrificed his life to save Sora ..He's Roxas' best friend who he vowed to save. Yeah hes clearly a dangerous enemy..NOT...Furthermore Yen Sid is a retired keyblade master but he can definitely give the ceremony.Then, a keyblade must also choose its master regardless. Obviously Lea has earned the right to wield

[Hyperion 144]

Theres a difference between complexity and stupidity.

 

Hey lets have a protagonist that splits himself up into 4 different people, THEN GO back in time to mess stuff up again when it doesnt go according to plan. The story right now makes sense sure but there are so many unanswered questions because Nomura is stuffing too much stuff into KH as it is now, now the Nobodies supposedly can cultivate hearts?

 

And we dont even know what the Heartless are anymore. Nomura needs to make a book or something to explain everything up to date. Not saying hes a terrible story teller but hes way too unorganized.

 

Like in Gurren Lagann if anyones watched it, its cool up until the last 2 0r 3 episodes then shit gets thrown out the window all confusing and stuff. KH isnt bad just complicated, if youre going to make a game complex at least have it in a manner where your fans can understand it.

 

Many people understand this game. It may be complicated....for you, but for others, they get it, whereas since you don't understand it you hate it. Play ALL the games and actually listen to the story. I haven't played Days or Re: Coded, but thanks to The Keyhole I read the plots and now I know the plot fairly well, but 3D did raise even more questions but I'm sure they'll all be answered in KH3 which I hope releases soon. Edited April 25, 2012 by Stigma