KH3D *spoilers* Riku's Keyholes of sleep?

[sorariku17 37]

I am unsure if this topic has been brought up or not. is riku is in soras dreams through out the whole game? or only TWTNW?, if sora's then wouldn't the keyholes of sleep be the hearts sleeping within his heart? if not soras dreams then how could their be 14 keyholes of sleep? 7 for sora and 7 for riku? as i am sure that yen sid only said there was 7 keyholes of sleep, but also the fact that sora and riku never run into each other through out the game, plus rikus dream eater symbol is making me confuzzled.

[P50L 610]

What.

 

I don't really know the answer for this...but true, Riku's Dream Eater symbol on his back is confusing me as well.

[sorariku17 37]

What.

 

I don't really know the answer for this...but true, Riku's Dream Eater symbol on his back is confusing me as well.

 

i just ment, i thought i heard/read from a video and chats, that riku was dwelling within soras dreams, so i was wondering if he was in soras dreams from the start, hence the dream eater symbol. but if not, then they go to the same worlds, and clear the same keyholes ? it doesn't make sense. plus nomura always has SOME reason in the games to make you mind Firetrucked and atm i haven't been mind firetrucked been confused but not screwed over yet.

[P50L 610]

i just ment, i thought i heard/read from a video and chats, that riku was dwelling within soras dreams, so i was wondering if he was in soras dreams from the start, hence the dream eater symbol. but if not, then they go to the same worlds, and clear the same keyholes ? it doesn't make sense. plus nomura always has SOME reason in the games to make you mind Firetrucked and atm i haven't been mind firetrucked been confused but not screwed over yet.

 

....OH I GET IT.

 

You may have a point thought...Wait, explain that Drop System or something. Doesn't that act as a time limit for each character? http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

[sorariku17 37]

....OH I GET IT.

 

You may have a point thought...Wait, explain that Drop System or something. Doesn't that act as a time limit for each character? http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

 

The drop system is also kinda hinting something too, because we first play as sora, THEN riku, and where sora falls into his first sleep, riku wakes up in the same area. This only occurs once but i feel its kinda symbolic. but yeah its a time limit, or sora/ can't advance further if you go too far with him. which kinda has a point too (don't think it has been explained though) probs not part of storyline the drop system but still.

[P50L 610]

The drop system is also kinda hinting something too, because we first play as sora, THEN riku, and where sora falls into his first sleep, riku wakes up in the same area. This only occurs once but i feel its kinda symbolic. but yeah its a time limit, or sora/ can't advance further if you go too far with him. which kinda has a point too (don't think it has been explained though) probs not part of storyline the drop system but still.

 

OMG.

 

Maybe that's why they couldn't find each other when they first get to Traverse Town? Wait no, If they were in 2 different places, then Neku and Joshua, as well as every other TWEWY character would not even know each other...

[sorariku17 37]

OMG.

 

Maybe that's why they couldn't find each other when they first get to Traverse Town? Wait no, If they were in 2 different places, then Neku and Joshua, as well as every other TWEWY character would not even know each other...

 

Its been proven that even joshua etc don't know how the worlds are split. (even though he can travel through them both). They suspect that Young xehanort was the cause of it. Plus its been stated that they invited sora to the final worlds, which leads me to believe that they have been inviting sora to every other world, and riku follows through YET in every other world, there is a parallel reality, when there is sora and trons scenario, rikus one was kinda happening too. but with differences as Qourra was with sora, most of the time, but then she was with riku and the gang at another time. Also the fact that its only 1 world and they explore most of the same areas YET they NEVER bump into each other.

[macx12 2]

Damn wow this is why I love this website. You guys know how to make me think beyond what I see in the games, I never fully pieced together the story behind the Dream Eater symbol on Riku's back until what you guys just offered now. This might seem kind of random but I just joined this site like 17 days ago and I wanna say thanks, I could never figure out why Riku had that mark

[sorariku17 37]

Damn wow this is why I love this website. You guys know how to make me think beyond what I see in the games, I never fully pieced together the story behind the Dream Eater symbol on Riku's back until what you guys just offered now. This might seem kind of random but I just joined this site like 17 days ago and I wanna say thanks, I could never figure out why Riku had that mark

 

Hey, no problem, i don't know if its correct and things as translations might be wrong, but i still find it odd that riku and sora go to the same worlds, and unlock the same keyholes of sleep, which doesn't make any sense. only other reasons if riku isn't in soras heart, was that the keyholes of sleep in soras parts, aren't the real ones. they are portals made to look like it by the organisation to trap him. BUT then that wouldn't explain how riku ended up in TWTNW at the end. hence why i think riku was in soras dreams, ultimately unlocking everyones hearts within sora by accident, hence setting him up to the hearts awakening within TWTNW and making sora fall into darkness lol. i first thought of this when seeing vens heart save sora, then him slightly move and smile at the end.

[macx12 2]

Hey, no problem, i don't know if its correct and things as translations might be wrong, but i still find it odd that riku and sora go to the same worlds, and unlock the same keyholes of sleep, which doesn't make any sense. only other reasons if riku isn't in soras heart, was that the keyholes of sleep in soras parts, aren't the real ones. they are portals made to look like it by the organisation to trap him. BUT then that wouldn't explain how riku ended up in TWTNW at the end. hence why i think riku was in soras dreams, ultimately unlocking everyones hearts within sora by accident, hence setting him up to the hearts awakening within TWTNW and making sora fall into darkness lol. i first thought of this when seeing vens heart save sora, then him slightly move and smile at the end.

 

Interesting idea and maybe that fake keyhole idea isn't so farfetched. Maybe Riku stumbled into the fake keyholes Org XIII but then we'd still have that dream eater thign with Riku, and as we know Nomura does everything for a reason. I think you might be right about the Sora's dreams thing since it would involve riku going into his dreams hence making him a sort of dream eater himself- and the fact that unlike sora he FUSES with his Dream Eater, huh?

[sorariku17 37]

Interesting idea and maybe that fake keyhole idea isn't so farfetched. Maybe Riku stumbled into the fake keyholes Org XIII but then we'd still have that dream eater thign with Riku, and as we know Nomura does everything for a reason. I think you might be right about the Sora's dreams thing since it would involve riku going into his dreams hence making him a sort of dream eater himself- and the fact that unlike sora he FUSES with his Dream Eater, huh?

 

Yeah, exactly my thoughts. we know for a fact, that riku is in soras dreams at TWTNW, as it was stated, but we don't know (hence why i asked) if hes in his dreams/heart (isn't dreams symbolically connected to the heart? like if you have a dream of falling, which is to jump start the heart as its beating to slow etc) if i'm thinking like nomura as hes a HUGE symbolic believer, then that means riku was in soras heart.

 

how many people resides in sora?

we defo know, ventus, roxas, xion, then his past memories of ven means terra and aqua have made their way to his heart either symbolically or physically (terra maybe when he defeated ansem with the door to light?) (Aqua when he and her spoke to each other in destiny islands in BBS? as he remembers it in DDD) thats 5

 

maybe lea too? (highly doubtful but it can happen) as we see a cutscene of the apprentances waking up (lea is last) after riku unlocks the keyhole in norte daime i think so thats 6 (as we know riku unlocks 8 and the 8th one is technically soras heart). if my theory is correct (highly doubtful) then that means we need 1 more?

[macx12 2]

Yeah, exactly my thoughts. we know for a fact, that riku is in soras dreams at TWTNW, as it was stated, but we don't know (hence why i asked) if hes in his dreams/heart (isn't dreams symbolically connected to the heart? like if you have a dream of falling, which is to jump start the heart as its beating to slow etc) if i'm thinking like nomura as hes a HUGE symbolic believer, then that means riku was in soras heart.

 

how many people resides in sora?

we defo know, ventus, roxas, xion, then his past memories of ven means terra and aqua have made their way to his heart either symbolically or physically (terra maybe when he defeated ansem with the door to light?) (Aqua when he and her spoke to each other in destiny islands in BBS? as he remembers it in DDD) thats 5

 

maybe lea too? (highly doubtful but it can happen) as we see a cutscene of the apprentances waking up (lea is last) after riku unlocks the keyhole in norte daime i think so thats 6 (as we know riku unlocks 8 and the 8th one is technically soras heart). if my theory is correct (highly doubtful) then that means we need 1 more?

 

Yea maybe Idk I've looked up some DDD vids but I don't think I'll fully understand until I play the game for myself and if you're theory is true it's going to be one EPIC ass team up in KH III when he finally save s everyone

[sorariku17 37]

Yea maybe Idk I've looked up some DDD vids but I don't think I'll fully understand until I play the game for myself and if you're theory is true it's going to be one EPIC ass team up in KH III when he finally save s everyone

 

yes it will, i don't fully understand too, i only know that riku is in soras dreams at somepoint, which lead me to believe all the above statements