Mina Del Rio 39 Posted April 23, 2012 I'm a bit confused by that timeline. SoD could only travel to the past, as he cannot go beyond the present to where he does not yet exist or rather a place where he has things yet to be done. Same with YMX, he could only travel to the past, hence why he could recruit the other Darknesses and not any future ones. He only planned up to that point in DDD. That so? And it is true, that once you return from Time-Travel, you forget your memories of what you did. In the case of Xehanort, he may not remember the plan, or what he did during the Travel, but his heart will know what to do. I understood that he can travel back and forth... just... following the current of time. I guess he can actually go against the current as long as he doesn't try to jump from this timeline to that timeline to that other timeline. About the memories... I got lost somewhere there ._.; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zanzetsuken 66 Posted April 23, 2012 I understood that he can travel back and forth... just... following the current of time. I guess he can actually go against the current as long as he doesn't try to jump from this timeline to that timeline to that other timeline. About the memories... I got lost somewhere there ._.; I guess that's plausible. Well, one thing I heard in the game was that 'you can only flow in one direction back and forth' during time-travel. So I don't think there should be alternative timelines at all, according to this. As for the memories, Xehanort said to Sora that he would have to return back to his own timeline eventually. When he does, he will not remember anything that he has done during that travel, but his heart will know what to do. He followed his heart, and then everything unfolded. So basically, everything that has happened was all planned. At least I'm sure of this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrissk08 15 Posted April 23, 2012 I'm a bit confused by that timeline. SoD could only travel to the past, as he cannot go beyond the present to where he does not yet exist or rather a place where he has things yet to be done. Same with YMX, he could only travel to the past, hence why he could recruit the other Darknesses and not any future ones. He only planned up to that point in DDD. That so? And it is true, that once you return from Time-Travel, you forget your memories of what you did. In the case of Xehanort, he may not remember the plan, or what he did during the Travel, but his heart will know what to do. That's why they had to bring SoD back with all the other Norts. The thing is, they don't exist in the future. I mean come on. KH3 they all have to go down. YMX only recruited versions of his other selfs. Those who do no exist anymore. Xemnas and SoD don't exist they've only come from the past. Same with YMX. Also it must be a loop. If SoD traveled back in time it only means they failed before. He didnt't forget and he had to prevent defeat through the original YMX. The origin of all that has transpired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted April 23, 2012 http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRzTqsKJ04A At about 2:24, YMX states that each time will return to its original flow, which leads me to believe that every Xehanort will go back to their original time outside the Realm of Sleep. Being in the Realm of Sleep defeats that rule and will allow the Xehanorts to exist in the present. After time returns to its flow, you'd have to forget everything to avoid paradoxes and such. Number one I'm already familiar with this as I have seen it when it was first translated. Number two the original MX is proof that on does not forget everything due to the interaction of time travel as everything he did up until kh1 was biased on what he was told as a child by MX. When seeker of darkness went back he immediately looked for a new vessel to add to the list. So to say he forgot would just be saying he possessed riku out randomness. Plus paradoxes are unavoidable since traveling to the past to interact with a past self creates a time loop. Hm... what makes you think SoD traveled to the future? Because he wears the robe thingy? Hm... something seems off with your explanation. How is the YX brought back in DDD any different from the normal one? I mean, they're exactly the same person. YX was supposed to be powerless around that time, he didn't even have the keyblade yet. He didn't travel to the future he went back to his own timeline and possessed Riku setting the flow of time in motion (the course of his destruction) which he would now have to follow in any timeline he is pulled from. I'm a bit confused by that timeline. SoD could only travel to the past, as he cannot go beyond the present to where he does not yet exist or rather a place where he has things yet to be done. Same with YMX, he could only travel to the past, hence why he could recruit the other Darknesses and not any future ones. He only planned up to that point in DDD. That so? And it is true, that once you return from Time-Travel, you forget your memories of what you did. In the case of Xehanort, he may not remember the plan, or what he did during the Travel, but his heart will know what to do. YMX traveled forward in time as he is the most past version of xehanort he was able to move forward in time and collect all the remnants of Xehanort. Once he brought them to the present that set the flow of time into motion meaning they would now be able to exist in that timeline regardless of their defeat. Think of it like this once in important event happens and the universe deems it so that event must happened and cannot be changed. So YX bringing all the Norts to the present would enable them to exist in that timeline. 1 Zanzetsuken reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mina Del Rio 39 Posted April 23, 2012 I guess that's plausible. Well, one thing I heard in the game was that 'you can only flow in one direction back and forth' during time-travel. So I don't think there should be alternative timelines at all, according to this. As for the memories, Xehanort said to Sora that he would have to return back to his own timeline eventually. When he does, he will not remember anything that he has done during that travel, but his heart will know what to do. He followed his heart, and then everything unfolded. So basically, everything that has happened was all planned. At least I'm sure of this. Ahm... well, the thing is I am a supporter of a certain theory, that, according to my memory was called the String theory... but I can't remember well, and I think I could just be talking about the multiple universes... that theory is about possible time travel on diverse strings of 'fate' created by every single decision we have made... and that. So according to this theory I adore, multiple timelines are possible. What would never be possible would be a single timeline. It would collapse OvO Also, I think I'm with the people who says that returning to their respective timelines should not erase their memories. Why? um.... I don't know x'D it just doesn't sound right. Go through all that bother just to end up forgetting what you did, and just follow what your heart says... um... no lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zanzetsuken 66 Posted April 23, 2012 Ahm... well, the thing is I am a supporter of a certain theory, that, according to my memory was called the String theory... but I can't remember well, and I think I could just be talking about the multiple universes... that theory is about possible time travel on diverse strings of 'fate' created by every single decision we have made... and that. So according to this theory I adore, multiple timelines are possible. What would never be possible would be a single timeline. It would collapse OvO Also, I think I'm with the people who says that returning to their respective timelines should not erase their memories. Why? um.... I don't know x'D it just doesn't sound right. Go through all that bother just to end up forgetting what you did, and just follow what your heart says... um... no lol Haha, I guess you are right. But the heart is a strong thing. I mean, Sora didn't forget about Kairi because of his heart. His heart couldn't forget about her. Strangely enough AX was experimenting for things that Master Xehanort was already planning to do, even with the 'memory loss'. I still believe that they don't really remember what they did but their hearts did, and so they followed their hearts. Well, I'll believe it until some proper translations come in eh? 1 Mina Del Rio reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esumsoraroxas 48 Posted April 24, 2012 What?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mina Del Rio 39 Posted April 24, 2012 Haha, I guess you are right. But the heart is a strong thing. I mean, Sora didn't forget about Kairi because of his heart. His heart couldn't forget about her. Strangely enough AX was experimenting for things that Master Xehanort was already planning to do, even with the 'memory loss'. I still believe that they don't really remember what they did but their hearts did, and so they followed their hearts. Well, I'll believe it until some proper translations come in eh? Also, let's remember we are speaking of Nomura's story. So we could be talking about the most logical things, and then he'd say "no way, I'll break all rules about time and space travel, and I will remake the theory about hearts!! >8D" so... yeah, let's not keep our hopes high 1 Zanzetsuken reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truthkey 8 Posted April 24, 2012 Also, let's remember we are speaking of Nomura's story. So we could be talking about the most logical things, and then he'd say "no way, I'll break all rules about time and space travel, and I will remake the theory about hearts!! >8D" so... yeah, let's not keep our hopes high You are so firetrucking right there, sir. 1 Mina Del Rio reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mina Del Rio 39 Posted April 25, 2012 You are so firetrucking right there, sir. X'D just to mention, I'm a girl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiesare 8 Posted April 25, 2012 I think i just broke my brain reading all this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mina Del Rio 39 Posted April 25, 2012 I think i just broke my brain reading all this Doesn't sound strange X'D it's happened to most of my friends who have asked me to explain them 3D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truthkey 8 Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) X'D just to mention, I'm a girl Well, the posts don't mention the user's gender... that doesn't make you be less right! Edited April 26, 2012 by Truthkey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DG20 67 Posted April 26, 2012 Well, the posts don't mention the user's genre... that doesn't make you be less right! I believe you meant gender. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truthkey 8 Posted April 26, 2012 I believe you meant gender. Y-Yeah, gender, lol. My english has been getting worse lately, haha. Anyways, on topic... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mina Del Rio 39 Posted April 27, 2012 Y-Yeah, gender, lol. My english has been getting worse lately, haha. Anyways, on topic... LOL! it's all the same, I guess. I can understand since english is not my mother language X'DDDD went a lot that way, changing slightly some words. I still do it -w-; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbadcloud 12 Posted June 16, 2012 I cant baleave my theory was like 95% right still waiting for how xemnas got his armorxD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauller 17 Posted June 16, 2012 It's look like we gonna start a fight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbadcloud 12 Posted June 16, 2012 Indeed so Let the key blade wars start again:P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xiggy 26 Posted June 17, 2012 C'est une boucle temporelle ! Garland sera de la partie, ha ha ha ! 8^D ... Well, hu, I mean... You know... Well, the most important thing to remember is that they're all here, hand in hand, to make another Keyblade War, right ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorariku17 37 Posted June 18, 2012 ... What kind of specialist can decipher this? not that hard, just learn to read [media=]http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRzTqsKJ04A[/media] At about 2:24, YMX states that each time will return to its original flow, which leads me to believe that every Xehanort will go back to their original time outside the Realm of Sleep. Being in the Realm of Sleep defeats that rule and will allow the Xehanorts to exist in the present. After time returns to its flow, you'd have to forget everything to avoid paradoxes and such. so umm, if isa will forget everything, will that mean he won't remember lea? ; ; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted June 18, 2012 not that hard, just learn to read so umm, if isa will forget everything, will that mean he won't remember lea? ; ; Maybe he should learn to type Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorariku17 37 Posted June 18, 2012 Maybe he should learn to type to me, it wasn't near as bad as some others ive seen, i didn't even need to read it twice for it, but some others who posted were even harder. your just being a bit mean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) If you are saying the proof of this is actually said in the reports ...It's NOT. You are making assumptions that it is, but that's not proof. That said, one could guess that the reason MX has pointy ears now is bc he quit wearing his armour fully exposing himself to darkness constantly..That would make sense .As for Xemnas using the blades and armour, well he is part MX so of course he can don his armour and use light sabers .This isn't exactly enlightening news LOL..He didn't need YMX to time travel to give it to him I'm quoting my own post from before bc it still applies... TC thinks the only reason Xemnas uses the armour and blades are bc YMX used time travel to give it to him ..Xemnas has them bc hes Nort. He naturally has them due to being half MX. He doesn't need YMX to time travel and give him those things ....As for MX's pointy ears, I agree with that point . to me, it wasn't near as bad as some others ive seen, i didn't even need to read it twice for it, but some others who posted were even harder. your just being a bit mean No, it's pretty bad . His typing doesn't have to be perfect , but it does need to be readable. Edited June 18, 2012 by Flaming Lea 3 Kinode, Robbie the Wise and sorariku17 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites