DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 I am in no way claiming I was the first one to discover this, so please, do not bash me. Below is an image during Ventus' possible last moments (theory). However, if you look closely, someone is sitting next to Ven on the tree trunk, at first I got too excited, I thought it was Vanitas without his helmet, however, through PhotoShop enhancement it's clear that this person is the one and only King Mickey. So I brightened the image a little more, and circled what I see, hope this clears some things up! Also, as malicious_shadow said, Mickey is the only character that would blend into the night so well, and that peachy skin color, it must be Mickey I think you're right DoctorRamen, but there's one thing that troubles me and thats the skin coloured arm/object next to mickey...it can't possibly be mickey's? http://kh13.com/mybb/attachment.php?aid=192 I added an outline for mickey for those who still have trouble seeing it lol I have a few questions for you guys out there: When do you think this takes place? Do you find this significant at all? Why King Mickey? Why on Destiny Island? How does this relate to Sora? There are no right answers, I just want to start an open discussion. Also, I find it amusing in the contrast between this frame and the end of the trailer, Ventus lying on this tree trunk at night, and Sora sitting there at the end of the trailer at sunset? Is that significant at all? EDIT: I looked back in the BBS forum and noticed someone discovered a shadow leaning against the tree, Vanitas perhaps? Thanks for your time, DoctorRamen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted December 31, 2009 I noticed that too! But since it wasn't in very good quality it looked like someone keyblade. But...I'm having a hard time seeing King Mickey.o.O; Knowing when this takes places makes a HUGE diffrence. @_@; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Sorry for the quality, it's the best I could find, however, look at the image closely you can see the color of mickey's skin and his little shiny nose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ventus_XIII 50 Posted December 31, 2009 I thought it looked like some sort of arrow... or keyblade like Kishira-sama said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted December 31, 2009 Sorry for the quality, it's the best I could find, however, look at the image closely you can see the color of mickey's skin and his little shiny nose *sqwints* It looks like.....someone sitting down slightly bent over looking down at baby Ven...but the proportions are way off, so it's not that....but I just can't see Mickey. I fail...@///@; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted December 31, 2009 Nah i think its Sora it just looks a bit like him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted December 31, 2009 Nah i think its Sora it just looks a bit like him I kinda see what you're saying...but the proportions really bother me. If it is a person there....they wouldn't look so small compared to baby Ven. :exclamation: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Well, excluding the keyblade wars could a keyblade just rest there like that? Wouldn't ven have to "summon" it. I'm not disagreeing i'm simply adding my input, as for it being a baby Ven, I don't quite see that. I might be just crazy to see Micky, but that's what I think I don't think it's a baby Ven sitting there, to me it's kind-of obvious that this is at the end of the game. Think of it, Ven was "frozen" by Xehanort and in the trailer at this particular part Ven appears to be in a very dull dormant state, I don't think it's Ven as a baby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malicious_shadows 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Considering the size of the person, I can only think of mickey. You can't see feet below the tree. Only a few people are that size that we know of and only Mickey and Minnie can blend in so well with the background color like that and I don't think Minnie would be there. Plus, the so called "baby Ven" looks like he's 15!! Nothing about his facial features point out his reversal in age. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted December 31, 2009 Well, excluding the keyblade wars could a keyblade just rest there like that? Wouldn't ven have to "summon" it. I'm not disagreeing i'm simply adding my input, as for it being a baby Ven, I don't quite see that. I might be just crazy to see Micky, but that's what I think Sorry for constantly saying "baby Ven", it just really looks like him...cause it can be Sora *hair style/color is way different* and there's no way that can be Roxas. @_@; And that "keyblade" could've ended up on that Paopu trunk the same way the baby was; someone was around to leave them there. But that's just one "maybe" thing. We'll know in 9 days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malicious_shadows 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Well, excluding the keyblade wars could a keyblade just rest there like that? Wouldn't ven have to "summon" it. I'm not disagreeing i'm simply adding my input, as for it being a baby Ven, I don't quite see that. I might be just crazy to see Micky, but that's what I think Sorry for constantly saying "baby Ven", it just really looks like him...cause it can be Sora *hair style/color is way different* and there's no way that can be Roxas. @_@; And that "keyblade" could've ended up on that Paopu trunk the same way the baby was; someone was around to leave them there. But that's just one "maybe" thing. We'll know in 9 days. It can't be Sora since we know that he exists at that stage. The trailer shows Sora watching the falling meteors. And past trailers have shown Sora and Riku together, implying that Sora is a completely different entity from Ventus. So far, NO CONNECTION has been made between Sora and Ven except for the fact that Ven and Roxas look like each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted December 31, 2009 Considering the size of the person, I can only think of mickey. You can't see feet below the tree. Only a few people are that size that we know of and only Mickey and Minnie can blend in so well with the background color like that and I don't think Minnie would be there. Plus, the so called "baby Ven" looks like he's 15!! Nothing about his facial features point out his reversal in age. But look at the body structer, even if his facial features don't look like an infants, what kind of 15 year old teenager would fit the width of the trunk of that Paopu tree? There are non dangling legs that can be seen. So that's either a really short teenager; or that really is an infant. >.>; I knew it, well sorta Well, excluding the keyblade wars could a keyblade just rest there like that? Wouldn't ven have to "summon" it. I'm not disagreeing i'm simply adding my input, as for it being a baby Ven, I don't quite see that. I might be just crazy to see Micky, but that's what I think Sorry for constantly saying "baby Ven", it just really looks like him...cause it can be Sora *hair style/color is way different* and there's no way that can be Roxas. @_@; And that "keyblade" could've ended up on that Paopu trunk the same way the baby was; someone was around to leave them there. But that's just one "maybe" thing. We'll know in 9 days. It can't be Sora since we know that he exists at that stage. The trailer shows Sora watching the falling meteors. And past trailers have shown Sora and Riku together, implying that Sora is a completely different entity from Ventus. So far, NO CONNECTION has been made between Sora and Ven except for the fact that Ven and Roxas look like each other. I ment can't...it can't be Sora. >///>! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malicious_shadows 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Considering the size of the person, I can only think of mickey. You can't see feet below the tree. Only a few people are that size that we know of and only Mickey and Minnie can blend in so well with the background color like that and I don't think Minnie would be there. Plus, the so called "baby Ven" looks like he's 15!! Nothing about his facial features point out his reversal in age. But look at the body structer, even if his facial features don't look like an infants, what kind of 15 year old teenager would fit the width of the trunk of that Paopu tree? There are non dangling legs that can be seen. So that's either a really short teenager; or that really is an infant. >.>; The body is laid sideways on the trunk, not necessarily so that is hangs down off the tree. If you consider that, the optical illusion of it makes it look shorter when in reality, it's longer. Plus, all things considered, Ven CAN be considered short/petit. Hes not tall nor broad like Terra is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Also, right after that frame you see TEEN Ven wrapped in the exact same blanket whimpering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malicious_shadows 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Also, right after that frame you see TEEN Ven wrapped in the exact same blanket whimpering. Whimpering?? Actually, it looks as though Ven is some sort of... shell. No signs of movement is shown and his eyes look dull and lifeless till the light passes in front of him. But WHY?! That is the question.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 You're right, but he's in a lifeless state, and the color that he is wrapped in is the exact same that is lying on the papou tree. Picture: Compared To: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malicious_shadows 0 Posted December 31, 2009 You're right, but he's in a lifeless state, and the color that he is wrapped in is the exact same that is lying on the papou tree. Picture: ... Body bag?? ... ... ... Sorry! I just had to get that out of my system. But who's to say that Ventus doesn't die?!!?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Hmm, maybe after his "death" someone or some sort of force brings him to the Room of Awakening as seen at the beginning of the trailer, a lifeless Ven sitting in a throne. Maybe the transferrers goal was to bring Ven back to life via memory transfer? To Sora? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malicious_shadows 0 Posted December 31, 2009 Hmm, maybe after his "death" someone or some sort of force brings him to the Room of Awakening as seen at the beginning of the trailer, a lifeless Ven sitting in a throne. Maybe the transferrers goal was to bring Ven back to life via memory transfer? To Sora? ... In the end, it just comes down to what sort of connection Ven has to Sora. The transferrer as well, the connection between Ven to him as well is curious. Vanitas seems to have a hand in this as well..... Grr. Who knows..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 I have a few questions for you guys out there: When do you think this takes place? Do you find this significant at all? Why King Mickey? Why on Destiny Island? How does this relate to Sora? There are no right answers, I just want to start an open discussion. Also, I find it amusing in the contrast between this frame and the end of the trailer, Ventus lying on this tree trunk at night, and Sora sitting there at the end of the trailer at sunset? Is that significant at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mithurshun 2 Posted December 31, 2009 Nah i think its Sora it just looks a bit like him I don't think it's Sora. Try look at the time diffrents. Ven is about 14-15 and Sora is 4-5. Now if Ven was a baby at that time. Sora wasn't even born yet. You see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 You're right, but he's in a lifeless state, and the color that he is wrapped in is the exact same that is lying on the papou tree. Picture: Compared To: Many are posting of "Baby Ven", i'm not going to disagree, but including an infant character in Kingdom Hearts is ridiculous for two reasons, one it's kind-of bizarre (haha), and two think of the timing, and the proof I provided above, I strongly believe that this scene is at the end of the game summing up the connections between Sora > Ventus > Vanitas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limen123 28 Posted December 31, 2009 It doesn't really look like Mickey to me. I thought it was Ven raising his hand before you brightened it. It looks like a bald person to me, but the person near the tree(in the same scene) looks more like MX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nothing 0 Posted December 31, 2009 we better wait i cant see anything at all just a white...thing in the tree x__x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorRamen 0 Posted December 31, 2009 So I brightened the image a little more, and circled what I see, hope this clears some things up! Also, as malicious_shadow said, Mickey is the only character that would blend into the night so well, and that peachy skin color, it must be Mickey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites