KH3D SPOILER about Xemnas

[replika13 455]

okay, so theres this part where Xemnas and Xigbar speak with Sora. Xemnas reveals that nobodies can cultivate new hearts. But because he knew that other members of organisation would betray him, he told them that only way to receive heart is to create Kingdom Hearts.

 

This might be way how Roxas could have his own heart, if he already didnt.

[VoidXName 346]

I had this same theory. I think it makes a lot of sense, especially since we see that Roxas is still apart of Sora, residing within him. I think that Ven's heart was inside of Roxas (Sora's body) and that's why Roxas looks like Ven, but bc Ven's heart was fractured and still too weak, Roxas grew his own heart. This also makes a lot of sense for Roxas to have two hearts inside of himself, bc when Roxas dual wields I believe he is using Ven's (aka Sora's) and Roxas's own Keyblade, not Xion's. Xion just awakened the ability for Roxas to dual wield. Though, I could be wrong about, the dual wielding part, I strongly believe that Roxas had two hearts confined in himself, his own and Ven's fractured heart.

[Unknown XIII 3]

I had this same theory. I think it makes a lot of sense, especially since we see that Roxas is still apart of Sora, residing within him. I think that Ven's heart was inside of Roxas (Sora's body) and that's why Roxas looks like Ven, but bc Ven's heart was fractured and still too weak, Roxas grew his own heart. This also makes a lot of sense for Roxas to have two hearts inside of himself, bc when Roxas dual wields I believe he is using Ven's (aka Sora's) and Roxas's own Keyblade, not Xion's. Xion just awakened the ability for Roxas to dual wield. Though, I could be wrong about, the dual wielding part, I strongly believe that Roxas had two hearts confined in himself, his own and Ven's fractured heart.

 

Only problem with this is if Roxas had Ven's heart and therefor Ven's keyblade, who's keyblade was Sora using when he fought Ansem SoD and journeyed through Castle Oblivion? This theory would make more sense if Roxas had his own keyblade and dual wielded with Xion's Keyblade and Sora had Ven's.

Edited April 10, 2012 by Unknown XIII

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Before this gets out of hand like the last ten thousand threads that have had this topic read these interviews

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/943347-kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep/57971099

[Slicer9875 27]

What I'm confused about is didn't Nomura say in an interview that only a few nobodies had hearts? More importantly, what made Roxas, Axel, Namine, Xion special, particularly Axel? Axel clearly should have been taken over but he wasn't, why could he feel like he had a heart? None of the others ever really reacted that strongly despite their interactions with ROxas. ALso, looking at that link, the only conclusion I could make is that SOra has to have his own keyblade in order for Roxas to truly exist alongside Xion. If there was nothing that could be done for Roxas, Xion and Axel, why were they shown in blank points?

[Skai 3,961]

Only problem with this is if Roxas had Ven's heart and therefor Ven's keyblade, who's keyblade was Sora using when he fought Ansem SoD and journeyed through Castle Oblivion? This theory would make more sense if Roxas had his own keyblade and dual wielded with Xion's Keyblade and Sora had Ven's.

 

Xion was an imperfect Replica of Sora.

 

A better theory is Xion didn't really have a Keyblade and Roxas had Ven's Heart or part of it. After Xion returned to him, he was able to use Sora's and Ven's keyblade.

 

Sora used his own when he went through Castle Oblivion and Xion was created while he was in CO. Xion didn't know how to wield the Keyblade until about the time when Sora was put into sleep by Namine.

 

That's why Xion could wield a Keyblade because she was created by Sora's memories and the power was leaking out to her.

Edited April 10, 2012 by StrongHeart

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

What I'm confused about is didn't Nomura say in an interview that only a few nobodies had hearts? More importantly, what made Roxas, Axel, Namine, Xion special, particularly Axel? Axel clearly should have been taken over but he wasn't, why could he feel like he had a heart? None of the others ever really reacted that strongly despite their interactions with ROxas. ALso, looking at that link, the only conclusion I could make is that SOra has to have his own keyblade in order for Roxas to truly exist alongside Xion. If there was nothing that could be done for Roxas, Xion and Axel, why were they shown in blank points?

 

The interviews explain that Roxas can duel wield because because Sora could duel wield. The keyblade that Roxas uses throughout days is the same Keyblade that Sora uses. That keyblade was in two place at the same time this is confirmed .When Roxas defeated Xion the emotions he felt allowed him to awaken Ven's keyblade this would have only been possible if Ven's heart was inside of him this also applies to Sora,he can only duel wield when Ven's heart resides inside him. Now to humor the theory that Roxas had grown his own heart and Ven's and wielded his own keyblade. The that would mean when he rejoined Sora he would now have the ability to wields three keyblade which he does not. Edited April 10, 2012 by devereauxr

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

The interviews explain that Roxas can duel wield because because Sora could duel wield. The keyblade that Roxas uses throughout days is the same Keyblade that Sora uses. That keyblade was in two place at the same time this is confirmed .When Roxas defeated Xion the emotions he felt allowed him to awaken Ven's keyblade this would have only been possible if Ven's heart was inside of him this also applies to Sora,he can only duel wield when Ven's heart resides inside him. Now to humor the theory that Roxas had grown his own heart and Ven's and wielded his own keyblade. The that would mean when he rejoined Sora he would now have the ability to wields three keyblade which he does not.

 

Yes yes this ..... @ Replika im sure they will find a way to grow roxas a heart .Or possibly he started to grow his own but it wasnt fully formed yet to function with his own separate THIRD keyblade .

[Bosh104 51]

This probably isn't story-related, but in KH2FM, when sora fought roxas in the Dive into the Heart, he was able to steal roxas' keyblades, so he technically was able to use 3 keyblades...

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Roxas has the ability to weild sora's keyblade at the same time as sora is. So when sora stole roxas's keyblades he was weilding two versions of his own keyblade and ventus's keyblade.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Roxas has the ability to weild sora's keyblade at the same time as sora is. So when sora stole roxas's keyblades he was weilding two versions of his own keyblade and ventus's keyblade.

 

This

[VoidXName 346]

 

 

Only problem with this is if Roxas had Ven's heart and therefor Ven's keyblade, who's keyblade was Sora using when he fought Ansem SoD and journeyed through Castle Oblivion? This theory would make more sense if Roxas had his own keyblade and dual wielded with Xion's Keyblade and Sora had Ven's.

 

Actually, Nomura has stated that Roxas and Sora were sharing the same Keyblade at the same time. Meaning that both Sora and Roxas were using Ven/Sora's Keyblade.

[Bosh104 51]

Roxas has the ability to weild sora's keyblade at the same time as sora is. So when sora stole roxas's keyblades he was weilding two versions of his own keyblade and ventus's keyblade.

 

Whether two were the same, he still did use 3 at a time. Lol even if 2 were twins

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Whether two were the same, he still did use 3 at a time. Lol even if 2 were twins

 

technically speaking yeah but essentially thier the same things

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Whether two were the same, he still did use 3 at a time. Lol even if 2 were twins

 

Not the same thing that he was refering to though. They arent 3 seperate keyblades from 3 seperate hearts

[Bosh104 51]

technically speaking yeah but essentially thier the same things

 

Not the same thing that he was refering to though. They arent 3 seperate keyblades from 3 seperate hearts

 

If he was holding one, and had 2 seperate ones floating around him, and he used all 3 to attack, he used 3 keyblades! and roxas is the 1st ever human to get slapped on by THREE keyblades from one person!!

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

If he was holding one, and had 2 seperate ones floating around him, and he used all 3 to attack, he used 3 keyblades! and roxas is the 1st ever human to get slapped on by THREE keyblades from one person!!

 

LOL We know this .Its not the point we are making .The point is ...the third keyblade isnt from a third heart

[Bosh104 51]

LOL We know this .Its not the point we are making .The point is ...the third keyblade isnt from a third heart

 

No! No no no no no!

 

Lol

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

No! No no no no no!

 

Lol

 

Silly

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

LOL We know this .Its not the point we are making .The point is ...the third keyblade isnt from a third heart

 

This

[chrissk08 15]

What I'm confused about is didn't Nomura say in an interview that only a few nobodies had hearts? More importantly, what made Roxas, Axel, Namine, Xion special, particularly Axel? Axel clearly should have been taken over but he wasn't, why could he feel like he had a heart? None of the others ever really reacted that strongly despite their interactions with ROxas. ALso, looking at that link, the only conclusion I could make is that SOra has to have his own keyblade in order for Roxas to truly exist alongside Xion. If there was nothing that could be done for Roxas, Xion and Axel, why were they shown in blank points?

 

They weren't as corrupted as the other members of the organization. Plus Axel is connected to Sora through Roxas and Xion is connected to him through memories. That link probably kept them i the light giving off the feeling of having a heart, plus I thought Xemnas said that they technically manifested hearts at one point. They have now seeing how they've become separate beings from Xehanort. They have Sora's keyblade due to their connections with him. Especially Xion seeing how she is a mirrored image of memories. But I'm sure Roxas has the same for specific plot reasons to brighten up the concept of Sora having a nobody.