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KHCoM Were Vexen, Lexaeus and Zexion still loyal to Organization XIII?

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They were founding members of the Organization so I would imagine they would be loyal still. I think they knew what Marluxia was trying to do with Sora and that's why they wanted to control Riku. Like a contingency measure. I mean Marluxia makes Axel kill Vexen to prove his loyalty. It seems to me that Vexen, Zexion and Lexaeus just weren't team players they preferred to do their own thing rather than follow Xemnas/Saix's edicts.

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Well, i don't think so.

For me, maybe Vexen will reborn as Even and will be bad, like he's nobody was. He wasn't really a nice person before he became Vexen, also.

But for Lexaeus, and Zexion, Both of them were... How can i say this... "'Not so evil'', just losing to Axel, who wasn't even evil.

 

So, for me, maybe Vexen(Even) is.

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Well, i don't think so.

For me, maybe Vexen will reborn as Even and will be bad, like he's nobody was. He wasn't really a nice person before he became Vexen, also.

But for Lexaeus, and Zexion, Both of them were... How can i say this... "'Not so evil'', just losing to Axel, who wasn't even evil.

 

So, for me, maybe Vexen(Even) is.

 

I dont think Even was evil.. What did he do in BBS that made you think he was evil?

All members that were sent to Castle Oblivion, except Axel, were meant to be eliminated because they were secretly plotting against the Organization.

 

Wasn't it that they were suspected of being traitors?

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Marluxia and Larxene were the only traitors I believe; Zexion, Vexen, and Lexaeus were founding members and thus loyal. They were trying to stop Marluxia's plot by using Riku to combat Sora. Axel killed them in order to allow Saix to move up through the ranks--get rid of the original, most loyal members, and there's more room for Saix at the top^^ I think Saix was the one to put them all there to begin with.

 

 

Of course, now that we know Saix is being controlled by Xehanort and has seemingly discarded everyone else in the organization other than him and braig, it's hard to say...

 

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Or were they plotting a coup like both Marluxia and Larxene were?

 

They were founding members of the Organization so I would imagine they would be loyal still. I think they knew what Marluxia was trying to do with Sora and that's why they wanted to control Riku. Like a contingency measure. I mean Marluxia makes Axel kill Vexen to prove his loyalty. It seems to me that Vexen, Zexion and Lexaeus just weren't team players they preferred to do their own thing rather than follow Xemnas/Saix's edicts.

 

All members that were sent to Castle Oblivion, except Axel, were meant to be eliminated because they were secretly plotting against the Organization.

 

Well, i don't think so.

For me, maybe Vexen will reborn as Even and will be bad, like he's nobody was. He wasn't really a nice person before he became Vexen, also.

But for Lexaeus, and Zexion, Both of them were... How can i say this... "'Not so evil'', just losing to Axel, who wasn't even evil.

 

So, for me, maybe Vexen(Even) is.

 

I dont think Even was evil.. What did he do in BBS that made you think he was evil?

 

Wasn't it that they were suspected of being traitors?

 

Hmm... I think is the way he talks, the things he says, and the way he looks like.

 

Their all traitors. That's why they had to be eliminated.

 

No, that's why axel got rid of zexion and vexen. I think sora got rid of lexaus

 

Marluxia and Larxene were the only traitors I believe; Zexion, Vexen, and Lexaeus were founding members and thus loyal. They were trying to stop Marluxia's plot by using Riku to combat Sora. Axel killed them in order to allow Saix to move up through the ranks--get rid of the original, most loyal members, and there's more room for Saix at the top^^ I think Saix was the one to put them all there to begin with.

 

 

Of course, now that we know Saix is being controlled by Xehanort and has seemingly discarded everyone else in the organization other than him and braig, it's hard to say...

 

 

 

Vexen, Lexaeus and Zexion weren't traitors. They were just suspected of being traitors.

 

Vexen was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed by Axel. Plus his rudeness was not a plus for him. Ultimately he got killed for his arrogance, not because he was a traitor.

 

Lexaeus was killed by Riku, not by Axel. Just a victim of suspicion.

 

Zexion was killed because he knew too much and Axel wouldn't have a clean slate if he let him leave.

 

Marluxia and Larxene were of course traitors.

 

What were their plans? We may never know. But Nomura has stated that when he is done with the series he wants to make sure there are no holes, nothing where you can continue the story with. So I think he plans to do something with their real personas.

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The only traitors were Marluxia and Larxene, Vexen was eliminated so Axel could earn the trust of the traitors, as for Zexion, Axel said himself that he just learned to much ( about Axel and Saix's own plans for betrayal), and Lexaeus was killed by Riku. Vexen, Zexion, and Lexaeus were never suspected of being traitors, they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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