Iamkingdomhearts1000 1,170 Posted April 7, 2012 Or were they plotting a coup like both Marluxia and Larxene were? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syndel 1 Posted April 7, 2012 They were founding members of the Organization so I would imagine they would be loyal still. I think they knew what Marluxia was trying to do with Sora and that's why they wanted to control Riku. Like a contingency measure. I mean Marluxia makes Axel kill Vexen to prove his loyalty. It seems to me that Vexen, Zexion and Lexaeus just weren't team players they preferred to do their own thing rather than follow Xemnas/Saix's edicts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted April 7, 2012 All members that were sent to Castle Oblivion, except Axel, were meant to be eliminated because they were secretly plotting against the Organization. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remains of Old 117 Posted April 7, 2012 Well, i don't think so. For me, maybe Vexen will reborn as Even and will be bad, like he's nobody was. He wasn't really a nice person before he became Vexen, also. But for Lexaeus, and Zexion, Both of them were... How can i say this... "'Not so evil'', just losing to Axel, who wasn't even evil. So, for me, maybe Vexen(Even) is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolfman1994 19 Posted April 7, 2012 On 4/7/2012 at 3:34 PM, 'Xirog' said: Well, i don't think so. For me, maybe Vexen will reborn as Even and will be bad, like he's nobody was. He wasn't really a nice person before he became Vexen, also. But for Lexaeus, and Zexion, Both of them were... How can i say this... "'Not so evil'', just losing to Axel, who wasn't even evil. So, for me, maybe Vexen(Even) is. I dont think Even was evil.. What did he do in BBS that made you think he was evil? On 4/7/2012 at 3:26 PM, 'Keyblade King 12' said: All members that were sent to Castle Oblivion, except Axel, were meant to be eliminated because they were secretly plotting against the Organization. Wasn't it that they were suspected of being traitors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remains of Old 117 Posted April 7, 2012 On 4/7/2012 at 4:06 PM, 'woolfman1994' said: I dont think Even was evil.. What did he do in BBS that made you think he was evil? Hmm... I think is the way he talks, the things he says, and the way he looks like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirie 3,489 Posted April 7, 2012 Their all traitors. That's why they had to be eliminated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junko 2,815 Posted April 7, 2012 No, that's why axel got rid of zexion and vexen. I think sora got rid of lexaus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted April 8, 2012 Marluxia and Larxene were the only traitors I believe; Zexion, Vexen, and Lexaeus were founding members and thus loyal. They were trying to stop Marluxia's plot by using Riku to combat Sora. Axel killed them in order to allow Saix to move up through the ranks--get rid of the original, most loyal members, and there's more room for Saix at the top^^ I think Saix was the one to put them all there to begin with. SPOILERS: Click to reveal Of course, now that we know Saix is being controlled by Xehanort and has seemingly discarded everyone else in the organization other than him and braig, it's hard to say... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolfman1994 19 Posted April 8, 2012 On 4/7/2012 at 4:39 PM, 'Xirog' said: Hmm... I think is the way he talks, the things he says, and the way he looks like. Thats stereo typing I dont think he was really evil all he did was look out for Ienzo.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remains of Old 117 Posted April 8, 2012 On 4/8/2012 at 1:30 AM, 'woolfman1994' said: Thats stereo typing I dont think he was really evil all he did was look out for Ienzo.. It's my opinion, anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) On 4/7/2012 at 2:52 PM, 'Iamkingdomhearts1000' said: Or were they plotting a coup like both Marluxia and Larxene were? On 4/7/2012 at 3:10 PM, 'Syndel' said: They were founding members of the Organization so I would imagine they would be loyal still. I think they knew what Marluxia was trying to do with Sora and that's why they wanted to control Riku. Like a contingency measure. I mean Marluxia makes Axel kill Vexen to prove his loyalty. It seems to me that Vexen, Zexion and Lexaeus just weren't team players they preferred to do their own thing rather than follow Xemnas/Saix's edicts. On 4/7/2012 at 3:26 PM, 'Keyblade King 12' said: All members that were sent to Castle Oblivion, except Axel, were meant to be eliminated because they were secretly plotting against the Organization. On 4/7/2012 at 3:34 PM, 'Xirog' said: Well, i don't think so. For me, maybe Vexen will reborn as Even and will be bad, like he's nobody was. He wasn't really a nice person before he became Vexen, also. But for Lexaeus, and Zexion, Both of them were... How can i say this... "'Not so evil'', just losing to Axel, who wasn't even evil. So, for me, maybe Vexen(Even) is. On 4/7/2012 at 4:06 PM, 'woolfman1994' said: I dont think Even was evil.. What did he do in BBS that made you think he was evil? Wasn't it that they were suspected of being traitors? On 4/7/2012 at 4:39 PM, 'Xirog' said: Hmm... I think is the way he talks, the things he says, and the way he looks like. On 4/7/2012 at 7:29 PM, 'ami' said: Their all traitors. That's why they had to be eliminated. On 4/7/2012 at 7:51 PM, 'Gumi' said: No, that's why axel got rid of zexion and vexen. I think sora got rid of lexaus On 4/8/2012 at 1:23 AM, 'deathrebirthsenshi' said: Marluxia and Larxene were the only traitors I believe; Zexion, Vexen, and Lexaeus were founding members and thus loyal. They were trying to stop Marluxia's plot by using Riku to combat Sora. Axel killed them in order to allow Saix to move up through the ranks--get rid of the original, most loyal members, and there's more room for Saix at the top^^ I think Saix was the one to put them all there to begin with. SPOILERS: Click to reveal Of course, now that we know Saix is being controlled by Xehanort and has seemingly discarded everyone else in the organization other than him and braig, it's hard to say... Vexen, Lexaeus and Zexion weren't traitors. They were just suspected of being traitors. Vexen was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed by Axel. Plus his rudeness was not a plus for him. Ultimately he got killed for his arrogance, not because he was a traitor. Lexaeus was killed by Riku, not by Axel. Just a victim of suspicion. Zexion was killed because he knew too much and Axel wouldn't have a clean slate if he let him leave. Marluxia and Larxene were of course traitors. What were their plans? We may never know. But Nomura has stated that when he is done with the series he wants to make sure there are no holes, nothing where you can continue the story with. So I think he plans to do something with their real personas. Edited April 8, 2012 by StrongHeart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted April 9, 2012 On 4/7/2012 at 4:39 PM, 'Xirog' said: Hmm... I think is the way he talks, the things he says, and the way he looks like. he is nerd and you obviously hate nerds lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadowgarion 6 Posted April 15, 2012 The only traitors were Marluxia and Larxene, Vexen was eliminated so Axel could earn the trust of the traitors, as for Zexion, Axel said himself that he just learned to much ( about Axel and Saix's own plans for betrayal), and Lexaeus was killed by Riku. Vexen, Zexion, and Lexaeus were never suspected of being traitors, they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites